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Barney Frank Pushes to Legalize Marijuana
wnd.com ^ | June 18, 2009 | staff

Posted on 06/18/2009 6:55:36 PM PDT by kellynla

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., wants to legalize marijuana and has introduced legislation that would accomplish his goals.

"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society," he said in his new announcement about his plans for two bills.

One proposal would remove federal penalties for using marijuana and the second would let people in states where "medical marijuana" is allowed use it freely.

The cosponsors on the bills include Reps. Ron Paul, R-Texas and Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.

"To those who say that the government should not be encouraging the smoking of marijuana, my response is that I completely agree," Frank's statement said. "But it is a great mistake to divide all human activity into two categories: those that are criminally prohibited, and those that are encouraged."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; barneyfrank; bhowod; dope; marijuana; potheads; wod
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1 posted on 06/18/2009 6:55:36 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

One stupid hobby of George Soros has always been to legalize pot. I cannot figure that one out...to what end???


2 posted on 06/18/2009 6:57:21 PM PDT by IrishPennant (RLT = Radical Left Terrorism...feel it????)
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To: kellynla

with barney, it’s always about sucking on something.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 6:57:43 PM PDT by steveo
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To: kellynla

He just wants to have dudes smoking the pipe.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 6:59:09 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: kellynla

5 posted on 06/18/2009 7:00:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: IrishPennant

Revenue.
Pot will be taxed like cigarettes.

But I will tell you this, and some may think I need that tin-foil hat, but I think it is also to lull the masses.

I smoked dope when I was young. I was very artistic but couldn’t think my way out of a paper bag.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 7:02:46 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: kellynla
"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society,"

If only he really believed that we wouldn't be in this economic mess.

7 posted on 06/18/2009 7:07:01 PM PDT by uptoolate (Primaries mean something - Conservative means Conservative)
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To: kellynla

Legalize pot? I’m ok with that. The liquor industry will be pissed, but a little competition for them is long overdue.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 7:08:16 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: IrishPennant
Marijuana smokers are,like,laid back...you know...,and like,don't get too excited over politics and stuff like that,you know....

The War on Freedom to Do Stupid Things,..err...the War on Drugs has resulted in loss of freedom for everyone:no-knock raids,Dinkyville and Metroburg SWAT teams and militarized police,various checkpoints where police "fish" for violations ,and confiscation of private property without criminal convictions under the misapplication of old maritime laws re-written for the War on Drugs.

Prohibition I didn't do anything but create a network of criminals supplying alcohol ,and Prohibition II has been just a repeat of that mistake.

9 posted on 06/18/2009 7:08:40 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: netmilsmom

Calif is talking about this also. Right now if you grow a couple plants for your own use its no big deal. If they “Legalize” it they will crush you for growing your own.


10 posted on 06/18/2009 7:11:01 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: kellynla

EXCELLENT! EXCELLENT! Re: Rep. Frank, even a stopped clock can be right once in a while. I have HIGH hopes that the war against responsible marijuana users will eventually come to an end.


11 posted on 06/18/2009 7:11:21 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: kellynla

I have no problem with legalizing pot and taxing it. One proviso would be if your employer does drug testing and you get busted the employer has complete legal immunity none of this crap about you are addicted therefore disabled or other cause to go to court. You want freedom to smoke dope you assume the responsibility of your choice.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 7:12:23 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: kellynla

I didn’t know he stuck joints in in mouth also.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 7:12:53 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: kellynla
Dang, now all the libertarians will be kissing up!!! LOL
14 posted on 06/18/2009 7:13:37 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: kellynla
I said decades ago that marijuana would be legalized the day the tobacco companies decided it was in their best financial interests. With the war on tobacco, we have finally reached the day.

Look at this as a form of corporate welfare.

15 posted on 06/18/2009 7:13:42 PM PDT by Publius (Gresham's Law: Bad victims drive good victims out of the market.)
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To: kellynla

Odd... I’d thought Barney was more interested in crack.


16 posted on 06/18/2009 7:16:12 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: joejm65
Legalize pot? I’m ok with that. The liquor industry will be pissed, but a little competition for them is long overdue.

Not to mention the pharmaceutical industry, which VP Biden is addicted to (coming from Delaware). We must never forget that Biden is one of the architects of the disgraceful War On Drugs. The drug testing companies won't like it either.

17 posted on 06/18/2009 7:16:25 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: kellynla

No Bwaney, your boyfriend said he wanted to smoke some “dudes”, not “doobs”. Listen better next time.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 7:17:11 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: kellynla

Isn’t secondhand cannabis smoke considered less hazardous than secondhand tobacco smoke?

As far as “medicinal marijuana”, I don’t see why its even considered. Delivering an accurate, measurable dosage of a drug through smoking is impossible. In addition, the active ingrediant in marijuana- THC- has already been synthesized into pill form. The utility of medicinal marijuana is at best very, very limited.


19 posted on 06/18/2009 7:17:17 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: netmilsmom
I smoked pot when I was young, so I think that I can speak knowledgeably about it, or at least offer a semi-informed opinion.

There is no doubt that inhaling smoke deeply into the lungs is not good for you. Any kind of smoke. Also, with the potent strains available now, there is definite impairment after smoking pot, so use before driving, flying, or performing surgery is a bad idea.

From personal experience, I can also say that perhaps the most insidious danger from smoking pot frequently is that it makes one perfectly content to do NOTHING. Oh, you might burn up the Xbox or make a killer pizza, and you're quite happy just lying in front of the TV or doing some trivial thing, but your motivation to go out there and live life and accomplish something gets put on the shelf. It's so easy to be happy doing NOTHING. That is the danger of pot.

OTOH, I do believe that no one should be in prison due to possession of pot. It's not a criminal offense. It's an offense against one's own future success, nothing more. It's clear that millions of people are going to grow it and smoke it, regardless of the law, so they might as well just legalize it and tax it. Shares of Xbox and Oreos will skyrocket, the government will have it's cash cow, and thousands of young men and women will at least not be convicts.

IMHO.

20 posted on 06/18/2009 7:17:29 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: joejm65

I think the alcohol lobby is the only reason it is not legalized right now...


21 posted on 06/18/2009 7:17:57 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: kellynla

all right...

a whole new generation of white democrat voters.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 7:18:28 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: kellynla

This will sure help the Dems with the Soccer Mom vote.

Now junior can have a joint after trying out his condom on the real thing.

(yea, yea, minors would not be allowed to buy weed...yep, just like cigarettes)


23 posted on 06/18/2009 7:19:00 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: kellynla

Okay, here we go...

Oh goody. Maybe I will sue for second hand highs.

Will restaurants have pot sections? Those always worked out so well.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 7:19:14 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: kellynla

Now he can get even higher when having sax with anonymous men.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 7:22:13 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: kellynla
Barney Frank Pushes to Legalize Marijuana

Good. The War on Drug Users has been a total disaster and any steps we can take towards ending it would be a good thing.

26 posted on 06/18/2009 7:26:45 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: kellynla

Barney should have been run out of D.C. because of his deception and profiteering from the Freddie/Fannie fiasco. Instead he seems to be emboldened to be a leader in new disasters.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 7:27:24 PM PDT by Faith
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To: netmilsmom

Oh, and I forgot to mention that if they do legalize pot, the violent Mexican cartels who are kidnapping and murdering along the border will be totally screwed. 70% of their income comes from smuggling pot into the US. Too bad for them. They will have to get landscaping jobs.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 7:27:54 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: BreezyDog
I think the alcohol lobby is the only reason it is not legalized right now...

Like I said in post #17, the pharmaceutical, petrochemical, & drug-testing industries are major players in keeping marijuana illegal these days. Back when it was criminalized in 1937, the fact that most pot users @ the time were black jazz musicians (have you ever watched the film "Reefer Madness"? If not, I suggest that you do so). The newspaper industry back in those days was run by Randolph Hurst, & he was probably one of the biggest contributors to that blight on American liberty as well.

29 posted on 06/18/2009 7:29:58 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: kellynla

If Barney Fag is FOR it, then I must wear my opposition like a badge of HONOR!


30 posted on 06/18/2009 7:31:40 PM PDT by 2harddrive (then)
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To: kellynla

. . . “when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others”

No, of course not, Barney. No one’s ever died from a dope intoxicated driver . . .


31 posted on 06/18/2009 7:33:10 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: BobL
(yea, yea, minors would not be allowed to buy weed...yep, just like cigarettes)

W/ that line of thinking, it would make sense to criminalize tobacco. Personally, that wouldn't bother me on bit IF marijuana is going to remain illegal.

32 posted on 06/18/2009 7:33:14 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
No, of course not, Barney. No one’s ever died from a dope intoxicated driver . . .

He never said that they haven't. The fact of the matter is the RESPONSIBLE marijuana use DOESN'T affect the rights of others. Driving under the influence of anything is irresponsible, & should remain against the law.

Here's something that could help you:

PRINCIPLES OF RESPONSIBLE MARIJUANA USE

33 posted on 06/18/2009 7:41:55 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Sender

>>There is no doubt that inhaling smoke deeply into the lungs is not good for you<<

Ingest it.


34 posted on 06/18/2009 7:46:19 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kellynla

Hopefully Frank will make this his cause de existence. Just keep his hands off the economy.


35 posted on 06/18/2009 7:51:39 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mylife

Re: Obama, he is at least the FIFTH President who is believed to have used marijuana in one way or another — & 3 of them are engraved on Mt. Rushmore!


36 posted on 06/18/2009 7:54:08 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: IrishPennant
I thought George Soros wanted to legalize heroin...
37 posted on 06/18/2009 7:54:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (...those who make non-violent revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- JFK (Iran))
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To: ChrisInAR

Sorry, not buying it. People smoke dope to get high. It affects one’s judgment as well as boldness. To think that people, especially young ones, will act “responsibly” with a mind altering drug is naive. Make this stuff legal and that much more available and we’ll have more trouble than we know what to do with.

And yes, I’m speaking from experience. I also remember the days of 18 drinking age. There’s a reason why the alcohol rules had to be substantially tightened over the years. The same thing will happen, only much worse, if dope is legalized.


38 posted on 06/18/2009 7:56:43 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: kellynla
choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others...

Hey Barn...don't you watch Weeds on Showtime? There are plenty of negative effects on people's rights. Like their right to LIFE! Making it legal will not get rid of gangs and illegal distribution.

39 posted on 06/18/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: kellynla
That faggot SOB Bawney Fwank has the nerve to say

"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society,"

and yet he was a cosponsor of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1256/show . Democraps, infinity hypocracy and impossible to describe my absolute disgust with them.

40 posted on 06/18/2009 8:00:00 PM PDT by theymakemesick (You may be a terrorist if you went to church last Sunday or think "shall not be infringed" means it)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others”

what about my(or my kids) right to not have to get high when the pot head is in the vicinity giving me a contact high?


41 posted on 06/18/2009 8:00:21 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: kellynla

The poofter pushes pot eh?


42 posted on 06/18/2009 8:00:51 PM PDT by afnamvet (I see stupid people.)
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To: kellynla
"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise ones, when the choices involved have no negative effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society," he said

Rings hollow coming from someone who consistently advocates and votes for gun-grabbing legislation, tax hikes, and gov't control in all areas of life other than sex and drugs.

43 posted on 06/18/2009 8:01:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Sorry, not buying it. People smoke dope to get high.

Of course we do. It's a wonderful thing! But there's a lot more to it than that. Just like drinking w/ your buddies @ the bar or during the Super Bowl, it's the friendships that are formed, as well as the buzz, the taste, the fragrance, the beauty of the plant / buds....a whole host of things.

44 posted on 06/18/2009 8:03:22 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: 2harddrive

2harddrive: “If Barney Fag is FOR it, then I must wear my opposition like a badge of HONOR!”

You’d think the libertarians would at least give your point some consideration. Here we have one of the biggest immoral leftists in the US Congress taking the libertarian approach to pot. Why?

I’m waiting now for the total legalization (all drugs) crowd to show. I have to wonder about people who are so concerned about the right to get high. Some of these folks seem strangely attached to weed. I mean, I’d engage in some introspection if I valued any recreational drug, including alcohol, that highly.

Nevertheless, I think the fed should be out of the WOD business. It should be for the states to decide, but I hate to tell the libertarians...most states are still not gonna legalize pot or other, harder drugs.


45 posted on 06/18/2009 8:05:49 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: I_Like_Spam
As far as “medicinal marijuana”, I don’t see why its even considered. Delivering an accurate, measurable dosage of a drug through smoking is impossible. In addition, the active ingrediant in marijuana- THC- has already been synthesized into pill form. The utility of medicinal marijuana is at best very, very limited.

Inhalation is a much quicker and efficient delivery method than oral ingestion. It takes only a few seconds for the drug to enter the bloodstream through the lungs while the digestive tract can take over 30 minutes.

Also, the only delivery method that assures reasonable accuracy is injection - pills suffer from their own obstacles in terms of accuracy. Factors such as stomach contents and acid levels, metabolism-varying physical activity, rates of absorption in the intestinal tract, etc. require massive guesswork in prescribing the dosage of even the most precisely measured oral medication. It is very common for a doctor to adjust the prescribed dosage in a trial-and-error fashion before finding what works best for the patient. This same approach would work just as effectively with an inhaled delivery system as long as the quality and quantity of the individual doses are kept consistent.

Additionally, and especially with a drug being used to control nausea, oral medications have a huge drawback if the patient cannot keep them down long enough for them to be digested. Incidentally, controlling nausea is one of the more common uses of medical marijuana. Pills containing THC theoretically work just as well in this regard, but unfortunately patients keep throwing them up unless their nausea has already been abated. Quite the catch-22.

46 posted on 06/18/2009 8:10:05 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: ChrisInAR

ChrisInAR: “Of course we do. It’s a wonderful thing! But there’s a lot more to it than that. Just like drinking w/ your buddies @ the bar or during the Super Bowl, it’s the friendships that are formed, as well as the buzz, the taste, the fragrance, the beauty of the plant / buds....a whole host of things.”

No disrespect, but that comes across a bit creepy to me. It’s a weed, and you almost sound worshipful. Can’t you form friendships and have a good time without it?


47 posted on 06/18/2009 8:11:01 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: CitizenUSA
I’m waiting now for the total legalization (all drugs) crowd to show

We're already here...I added my 1st post @ #17;

I have to wonder about people who are so concerned about the right to get high. Some of these folks seem strangely attached to weed.

We're not...we care about FREEDOM & limiting the powers of government. I fully agree w/ you that this should be an issue to the STATES to decide, & they can reap the benefits or deal w/ the repercussions of doing so.

48 posted on 06/18/2009 8:14:03 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: CitizenUSA
Can’t you form friendships and have a good time without it?

You bet I can, & I do. I never said that I can't form a friendship w/o weed. There is a time & place for everything. Like the saying goes, "everything in moderation".

It's ridiculous to even think that I worship it...it's just a PLANT, & nothing more. I worship the Creator, not the creation.

49 posted on 06/18/2009 8:18:41 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: kellynla

Pot should be legalized no matter who pushes the bill.


50 posted on 06/18/2009 8:19:14 PM PDT by mysterio
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