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To: Polarik; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

Well, you might like this too, then...

I've often wondered about implications of Ann Dunham's age at Obama's birth, which was EXACTLY 18 years, 8 months, 7 days, and Hawaii residency requirements, and Obama SR's non-residency status, while she lived in Washington for a year from Aug 1961 to approximately Sept 1962.

What implications exist being legally-married to a British subject, with Ann being under 19, especially when Ann spent most of the Obama JR's early year's out of Hawaii with him as an infant?
Obama SR was in Hawaii at school (confirmed);
Obama JR was in Hawaii (reportedly with grandparents, as it was yarned previously);
Obama's mama was in Seattle attending school at Univ. of Washington (confirmed).

Baby Obama may have had problems with Hawaii citizenship, potentially US citizenship even if born in Washington state, as well as problems with his birth certificate as shown:

[§338-17.8] Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. (emphasis added)

At age 18, while married to a UK national (before Kenya as independent), Ann was not in Hawaii while taking classes at University of Washington in FALL of 1961 (confirmed), and possibly DID NOT MEET residency time requirements to declare baby Obama as a Hawaiian resident, with Ann needing a year as a Hawaiian resident. Note: Stanley Ann Dunham was born November 29, 1942.

So, here's a newly-compiled timeline:
    June 1960 -- Ann moved to Hawaii with Parents (exact date unknown)
    Sept 1960 -- Ann started classes at U of Hawaii (exact date: Sept. 26, 1960)
    Oct 1960 -- Got pregnant by Obama SR
    Feb 1961 -- Married Obama SR (Feb. 2, 1961)   ANN'S EXACT AGE: 18 years, 2 months, 5 days
-- a big, six-month void --
    Aug 1961 -- Gave birth to Obama JR on Aug. 4, 1961 (reportedly in Hawaii and on that date)   ANN'S EXACT AGE: 18 years, 8 months, 7 days
    Aug 1961 -- Sighting by Susan Blake in late-August on Mercer Island, Seattle (Obama Jr reportedly 3 weeks old) -- SHE'S TRAVELING FROM HAWAII TO SEATTLE, in 1961, WITH A 3-WK-OLD, only to ship the baby BACK to start classes in Seattle? Highly doubtful ...
    Fall 1961 -- Attended classes in Seattle at University of Washington (see transcripts below), but not with University of Hawaii in Spring of 1961 -- possible BREAK in Hawaiian Residency status, depending on when she left Hawaii
    Fall 1961 -- a Listing for Stanley Ann Obama appears in the 1961 Polk directory at the Seattle Public Library: "Obama Anna Mrs studt h516 13th Ave. E. apt. 2"
    1961-1962 -- Anna Obama phone listing, as listed in Seattle Reverse Directory, 1961-1962: "Obama Anna Mrs EA3-3346" at "516 Villa Ria Apartments"
    Mar 1962 -- Mary Toutonghi babysat Obama Jr at Ann Dunham (aka Anna Obama) apartment for two months (through May 1962)
    Sum 1962 -- Sighting by John W. Hunt in June-Sept 1962 "I had moved to Utah for a while after high school, and I came back to Seattle in the summer of 1962. I remember visiting the World's Fair, and then stopping by Stanley Ann's apartment on Capitol Hill. It was a small apartment, upstairs. It was after June, and could have been as late as September, 1962. I visited her for half a day or so. It was after the end of the spring quarter classes, and she wasn't in classes, and didn't have a job. I recall her being melancholy at the time. I had a sense that something wasn't right in her."
    Fall 1962 -- Ann Dunman is no longer registered for classes at University of Washington
    Fall 1962 -- Obama SR begins school at Harvard, in Boston, Mass.
    Sept-Dec 1962 -- Ann moves back to Hawaii, with baby Obama, to live with parents
    Spring 1963 -- Ann Dunham resumes school back at  University of Hawaii at Manoa
    Jan 1964 -- Ann Dunham files for divorce in Hawaii Court
    Mar 1964 -- Divorce is granted (Obama SR does not respond to divorce notice in Boston)


Ann Dunham's Transcript summaries  http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html:

"
The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham: (Dates of attendance):
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966  

"Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for":
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962

See more in: The Myth of Barack Obama's Early Life - by Michael Patrick Leahy -- The Myth of Barack Obama's Early Life - Cached



One final thought:


In the 1964 Divorce (1964 Obama Divorce papers), on Pg 2, Section I, Ann FALSELY attested on Jan. 20, 1964 that she "is now and for more than TWO years past has been a resident of Honolulu, City and County of Honolulu, State of Hawaii." At least TWO years prior would be Jan 20, 1962, when she CLEARLY had been in Washington state, with baby Obama, until as late as September 1962.

Yet another lie...

302 posted on 06/22/2009 11:10:16 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
In the 1964 Divorce (1964 Obama Divorce papers), on Pg 2, Section I, Ann FALSELY attested on Jan. 20, 1964 that she "is now and for more than TWO years past has been a resident of Honolulu, City and County of Honolulu, State of Hawaii." At least TWO years prior would be Jan 20, 1962, when she CLEARLY had been in Washington state, with baby Obama, until as late as September 1962. Yet another lie...

Maybe, but in those days, and even now in some states, a student attending an out of state school was generally considered to be a resident of the original state, unless they made a positive declaration otherwise.

For example, my wife was not eligible for in state tuition, even though she'd been born in and lived in the state for her whole life, except the year and half before starting college. Similar to Stanley's case. She only became eligible for in state tuition when we married, because that was before the State Supreme Court declared that the state could not have one residency requirement for students, and another for everyone else. Now students only need pay out of state tuition for whatever period anyone else would take to become a resident, rather than as long as they were continuously enrolled after having been admitted from out of state.

It's also possible that since she had lived in Washington, and had graduated from a Washington High School, that she was still considered a WA resident, despite having attended the U. Of Hawaii for .. a semester if I'm remembering correctly.

303 posted on 06/22/2009 11:20:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BP2
Oct 1960 -- Got pregnant by Obama SR

Unless Obama was born more than 11 days late, he was conceived no earlier than November 1960.

304 posted on 06/22/2009 11:23:51 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: BP2
Your timeline seems to confirm that Stanley Ann never lived with Barack H. Obama Sr. as his wife, unless it was between February and September 1961, with BHO Jr being born,supposedly, in early August.

So, is there a reverse directory that shows who did live in that little cottage behind the too nice house at the address listed in the "birth announcements" in two different newspapers?

305 posted on 06/22/2009 11:24:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BP2

Wait, you say she got pregnant with Obama in Oct 1960, but she had him in August. She had an 11 month pregnancy?


311 posted on 06/23/2009 3:33:30 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: BP2
Stanley Ann Dunham was born November 29, 1942.

Where is HER birth certificate?

313 posted on 06/23/2009 5:39:30 AM PDT by Polarik
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To: BP2
In the 1964 Divorce (1964 Obama Divorce papers), on Pg 2, Section I, Ann FALSELY attested on Jan. 20, 1964 that she "is now and for more than TWO years past has been a resident of Honolulu, City and County of Honolulu, State of Hawaii." At least TWO years prior would be Jan 20, 1962, when she CLEARLY had been in Washington state, with baby Obama, until as late as September 1962.

Wouldn't that depend on how she registered at Washington? If she attended as an out of state student then her legal home of record would remain Hawaii.

321 posted on 06/23/2009 8:48:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BP2

About an hour ago the infodude on Fox asked us to send them the question we’d most like to ask The Anointed 0ne.

Didn’t catch how, the web site is mute. Twitter maybe?


322 posted on 06/23/2009 8:52:23 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 154 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: BP2

bookmarked!!!


Just got this in an email..

Greg Morton’s “obama man”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhkF3dqXR0&feature=player_embedded

I repeat myself, but what the heck..I shall plaster it everywhere..

as a side note, this is my last plaster..


331 posted on 06/23/2009 9:55:31 AM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: BP2; Polarik; LucyT

Thanks for the continued info!!


337 posted on 06/23/2009 1:28:52 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: BP2

Obama was “toots” kid.


338 posted on 06/23/2009 3:07:41 PM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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