Posted on 06/22/2009 5:33:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The Crux of the matter, pun intended...
Believe now or believe later .... but one day, you will believe
I was listening to Michael Medved one day and he had a talk on Atheists vs Religious people.
The Pastor speaking said that religious people really had no problem with Atheists because we could understand their point of view. It takes faith and they had none.
But Atheists cannot understand a religious point of view. To believe in a higher power is as wacky as believing in UFOs. Therefore they feel themselves superior and act in that way.
Every tongue shall confess and every knee shall bow.
But doesn’t that actually remind you of some religious people as well?
Over on the religion forum, I get the same self righteousness from people because I’m Catholic. It’s the “you haven’t read scripture like I have” tone. No matter how many references one posts, they are better.
Catholics are intellectually inferior even when one shows not to be. We are hinted to be, stupid, idol worshipers, sheep etc.
I’m not sure that this isn’t a Christian thing as well.
They simply have to have faith that everything they say is true.
Sounds like it might be a “human” (ie, sin nature) thing, not a “Christian” or “atheist” thing.
Believers are largely hypocrites who use their faith as a justification tool.
Real believers, if they had the highest faith in a god-figure, would not waste a single minute living their ordinary lives- they would be out crossing oceans, to risk life and limb to spread what they believe is the truth. For that, I have a lot of respect for certain missionaries from various faiths, even if I don't believe their message to be true.
Oh, and to add to it being a “sin nature” thing, not isolated to any faith or lack of faith -
the closer one is to one’s sin nature and the further one is from the Spirit of Truth,
the more likely they would be to engage in arrogant, condescending, insulting behavior.
After all, the very first sin was the temptation to be like God. And I assert that atheists are “gods unto themselves”.
>>On the contrary, real atheists do know what belief is. It is the realization of that, which made them atheist, in the first place.<<
You know what belief is, but equate belief in God to be the same as belief in UFOs. That is the point. Not that you don’t understand the concept, just that you believe it to be wacky.
I believe you are right.
Thats right. The most fervent believer in God is Satan. who spends his time among the elite fools convincing them God does not exist.
Belief is more of a psychological convenience, than something whacky, although one could relate the two.
I get the same self righteousness from people because I’m Catholic. It’s the “you haven’t read scripture like I have” tone.
Same here....
My Response:
We ALL die and their will be only ONE Judge...God.
Atheists also have a lot of opinions about how believers should behave that have nothing to do with what Scripture says about what makes a real believer.
A hypocrite is someone who doesn't live what they believe, not someone who doesn't live how YOU think they should.
Not everyone is capable of going. Some can't because of age. Some can't because of health. One shouldn't if not called by God. Going and being out of God's will on something will not work, no matter how admirable the mission.
Other factors in people going are that someone has to pay for those who go, and that there are those in this country who need to hear the Gospel. Unbelievers are not found only overseas. Once there are believers overseas, they are also responsible to share. Should they come over here, while we go over there? Or would it make more sense that people evangelize where they are with people they already know?
So, what I hear you saying is that you support Christian activism in government schools, spreading what we believe to be the truth to the young people in our community. Right?
If they so believe their faith to be the truth, they’d risk even legal consequences, to spread their faith.
The missionaries I talked off, didn’t merely risk serving a prison term for spreading their beliefs- they risked death.
Exactly!
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