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Wooden Beam Of Noah's Ark On Mount Ararat
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Posted on 06/22/2009 7:52:45 AM PDT by Fennie

On the 2nd December 2002 Claudio Schranz of our group and alpine guide has been able to film clearly a beam of Noah's Ark protruding out of the ice on Mount Ararat. It was found at 4000m between the beginning of the Parrot glacier.

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1 posted on 06/22/2009 7:52:46 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: MestaMachine; freekitty; justiceseeker93; oswegodeee; flat; unkus; Free ThinkerNY

PING


2 posted on 06/22/2009 7:56:33 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Fennie
OK, I see a piece of wood, where does the clearly a beam of Noah's Ark evidence come in?
3 posted on 06/22/2009 7:58:49 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Fennie

Gopherwood, or hoax.


4 posted on 06/22/2009 8:00:31 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Fennie

Curious indeed if authentic. If so, Ark or not it does beg the question wtf is it doing up there.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 8:02:53 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: xcamel

Old Sherpa cabin?


6 posted on 06/22/2009 8:03:11 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

For you, it never will.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 8:04:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Fennie

If you look closely you can see Bigfoot hiding behind it.


8 posted on 06/22/2009 8:04:11 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: mnehring

I want the GPS coords. Otherwise it could be from anywhere.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 8:04:33 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Fennie

Maybe it is Utnapishtim’s.


10 posted on 06/22/2009 8:04:54 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Pistolshot

It is my understanding that there really is no single “Mount Ararat” and that it is a range of mountains.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 8:06:01 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Hacklehead

That’s actually Noah himself.


12 posted on 06/22/2009 8:08:10 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Hacklehead
If you look closely you can see Bigfoot hiding behind it.

And in the distance, the ufo that dropped him off.
13 posted on 06/22/2009 8:09:58 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Fennie; stylecouncilor; windcliff

“Wood! Wood, wood, wood, wood. WOOD!


14 posted on 06/22/2009 8:10:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: mnehring

Agreed.

Like you and many other FReepers, I lack the ability to carbon-date wood just by looking really hard at it.

We have to own up to our disabilities.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 8:10:37 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: mnehring

Old monastery, discovered years ago. Just a bunch of wishful thinking from the folks in this story.


16 posted on 06/22/2009 8:11:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: mnehring

Didn’t you see the “Made in...?” on the end of the wood.

It also had a tag “Inspected by number 57. Quality Control”.


17 posted on 06/22/2009 8:12:02 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Fennie

I remember they also found a relic in a cave of one of the apostles? and everyone ignored it.


18 posted on 06/22/2009 8:13:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping~


19 posted on 06/22/2009 8:15:58 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: Fennie

If the mountain where Noah’s ark landed is now covered in snow and ice, does that mean that the world is experiencing global cooling since the days of Noah?


20 posted on 06/22/2009 8:17:00 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Old monastery, discovered years ago. Just a bunch of wishful thinking from the folks in this story.”

I have not heard that one.


21 posted on 06/22/2009 8:18:46 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Fennie

Could be,but I still think Elvis is making the crop circles.


22 posted on 06/22/2009 8:20:38 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (The ground at Arlington is moving & shaking.)
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To: Fennie
It's always possible, but of course not enough here to decide anything.

If you want to read a great science fiction novel that touches, among other things, on the finding of an ark on Mount Ararat, there's this.

I also recommend another Powers book, "The Drawing of the Dark," which is about King Arthur, beer, and the Siege of Vienna by the Turks. These are strange and powerful SF novels, and not unfriendly to religion.

23 posted on 06/22/2009 8:24:36 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MrB
It is my understanding that there really is no single “Mount Ararat” and that it is a range of mountains.

Well, there is a single Mt. Ararat, but the Bible says that Noah's Ark came to rest "in the mountains of Ararat", which could put it pretty much anywhere in traditional Armenia.

24 posted on 06/22/2009 8:26:28 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: 4yearlurker

It has to be Noah’s Ark, the inscription reads property of Noah, the Ark maker. This product can not be reproduced without the explicit permission of the music industry or Helen Thomas.


25 posted on 06/22/2009 8:26:47 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Thanks for the clarification.


26 posted on 06/22/2009 8:28:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

If I had been Noah, I would have used the lumber of the Ark to build a home, or to burn for firewood. Not sure anyone would just leave that lumber there for posterity....


27 posted on 06/22/2009 8:28:44 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: MrB

I think the Bible referred to it as the mountains of Ararat.


28 posted on 06/22/2009 8:31:13 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Fennie

Isn’t it amazing that Noah had the use of a saw mill using a circular rotating blade way back then.

Note the slightly radiused, repeating striations along the side of that “beam”.

Common use of the circular saw mill began here in America, as best I recall, sometime around the mid 1800s; before that they used a reciprocating (up and down) band saw, either human (for small ones) or water - wheel powered.
If you have an old house with exposed beams, look on their sides; it there are parallel straight ridges and grooves, then it was whip-sawed and the house is probably 100 to a couple of hundred years old or so. Of course modern “portable” saw mills use a band-saw system and the “Alaska” saw uses a sliding chain saw. You can usually tell the difference if you are familiar with lumber.

Hand hewn beams have a unique, uneven rustic look with up and down cuts every 8 or 10 inches or so from the “felling axe”. If in a settled area, it is probably at least 200 years old, or built from materials from a pre existing structure.

Before about 1820, most beams were hand hewn using various forms of axes and adzes. Even through the 19th Century a lot of country folk were still doing it that way. See “Foxfire Books” for details.

I have no idea how those beams got up there, but I seriously doubt that they floated, nor are much more than about 100 years old.


29 posted on 06/22/2009 8:39:02 AM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
At what point does wishful thinking become a self-serving lie?
31 posted on 06/22/2009 8:42:35 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

Now that would make a good tag line


32 posted on 06/22/2009 8:44:50 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: George Varnum

“Isn’t it amazing that Noah had the use of a saw mill using a circular rotating blade way back then.”

You got all that from some grainy video? You should work for NCIS.


33 posted on 06/22/2009 8:47:04 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Fennie

Come on people, use your heads.

1. That piece of wood has circular saw marks on it. Do you really think that Noah had a circular saw?
2. The wood was found at an elevation of 4000 meters. Thats 13,123 feet. Do you really believe that the earth was inundated to an elevation of 13,000 feet above mean sea level? Where did all that water come from, and where did it go? Assuming it rained for 40 days and nights, it would have rained 328 feet per day, or almost 14” per hour for 960 straight hours.


34 posted on 06/22/2009 8:48:39 AM PDT by PBinTX
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To: Fennie

Pretty easy to tell if it’s the ark or not. How many cubits is it?


35 posted on 06/22/2009 8:49:15 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hacklehead; George Varnum

Look at second 33 of the vid.


36 posted on 06/22/2009 8:51:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: PBinTX

Thats 14 feet, not inches


37 posted on 06/22/2009 8:52:10 AM PDT by PBinTX
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To: Hatteras
What's a cubit? Riiiiiiight....

-PJ

38 posted on 06/22/2009 8:55:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: Hatteras

Okay, I’ll bite....What’s a Cubit? (many thanks to Bill Cosby...)


39 posted on 06/22/2009 8:55:58 AM PDT by shredderman (Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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To: MrB
For a better story on the Ark go to this site:

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/

40 posted on 06/22/2009 8:56:16 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Eph. 2:8,9 2nd Tim. 2:15 Pray for our nation)
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41 posted on 06/22/2009 9:00:54 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Cicero

read most of his work and its totally unique. My favorite is the Anubis Gates


42 posted on 06/22/2009 9:01:43 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: Fennie

Wow, that’s pretty interesting, how is this movie just being published now?


43 posted on 06/22/2009 9:06:23 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: mnehring

“Look at second 33 of the vid.”

I dont think that can definitively be called circular saw marks based on a couple of curved lines.


44 posted on 06/22/2009 9:11:42 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; MrB
It is my understanding that there really is no single “Mount Ararat” and that it is a range of mountains.

Well, there is a single Mt. Ararat, but the Bible says that Noah's Ark came to rest "in the mountains of Ararat", which could put it pretty much anywhere in traditional Armenia.

From the Mespotanian perspective the description "the Mountains of Urartu" (as Armenia was called then) would be taken as those ranges south of Lake Van and Lake Urmia, rather than a pair of isolated peaks on a plateau far to the north.


45 posted on 06/22/2009 9:18:13 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: wiggen

Yes, I’ve read all of them, too. I think my favorite, although not really the most powerful, is “The Drawing of the Dark.” But they’re all remarkable.


46 posted on 06/22/2009 9:18:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PBinTX

I don’t know if that beam is from Noah’s Ark or not but we have to remember just what the bigger story is here. We’re talking about a rainstorm of truly God-like proportions. If God is truly a “God,” then He/She/It can do anything He/She/It damned well wants to do. If that calls for 14” of rain per hour, then that’s what we’d get. Did that actually happen? I don’t know but I kinda lean toward believing it until someone can give me real proof otherwise. Right now the question is a race between opposing theories and proof is still in the last turn.


47 posted on 06/22/2009 9:26:29 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Fennie
First the Ark of the Covenant to be revealed.
Now Noah's Ark?

Bring the beams down and use them in the construction of the Third Temple, wherein place the Ark of the Covenant.

48 posted on 06/22/2009 9:31:07 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: xcamel

Gopherwood? The Luther bible says pine.


49 posted on 06/22/2009 10:32:51 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (quem deus vult perdere prius dementat)
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To: oldfart

Faith in God does not require one to ignore reason and science, nor does it require absolute literal interpretation of the Bible which, after all, was written by man, several hundred years after the events depicted. Science, reason, and Belief do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Was there a flood experienced by Noah? Most likely. Did it inundate the entire globe to a depth of over 13,000 feet? Highly unlikely.


50 posted on 06/22/2009 10:38:47 AM PDT by PBinTX
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