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Soldier suing after being stripped of Subway restaurant franchises
Dallas Morning News ^ | 06/21/09 | KAREN ROBINSON-JACOBS

Posted on 06/22/2009 10:36:39 AM PDT by DFG

While serving in Afghanistan with the U.S. Army Reserve, Leon Batie Jr. dodged roadside bombs and scrambled to safety when rockets pierced the night sky.

When he returned to Dallas in early 2006, another battle loomed.

As Batie was returning from Afghanistan, he learned he was being stripped of the two Subway restaurants he bought before mobilizing.

The stores were sold to Subway insiders, with one transaction yielding a Subway executive a $100,000 profit, according to a lawsuit Batie filed last year in state court in Dallas County. One issue in the case is set for trial this week.

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To: Still Thinking
"Oh, but if we refuse to buy their shit because we don’t like their politics, we’re 'censoring' them."

So what.
Look -- at this stage? Do you honestly care what you're called? Especially IF you're following your conscious?
I don't, and leftists world over can KMA.

ALL businesses need as much "business" as they can get. IF they don't they're considered a marginal operation, not worth remaining open for business.

Savvy business people understand this, flakes don't.
Savvy business people make profits & grow, while flakes go bankrupt.

Until zerO & Co turn this republic into a 100% socialist system, there's this pesky thing called "Free Markets". No system in the history of the species knows how to take care of screwed-up corporate or private entities, better.

"Oddly, when liberals organize a boycott, that’s legitimate political expression."

Sure it is and they never work.
Still the right-wing should never bitch, either.
Why risk losing the enormously satisfying entertainment value of Liberal-Socialists failed effort(s)?
It'd be a crime against common sense. ;^)

51 posted on 06/22/2009 11:22:11 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: MEGoody; All

I hate Quiznos. Nasty.

I had liked Subway until this story, but instead I will have to get the hot sandwiches at Fazolis.

Subway isn’t worth it really without their $5 foot long anyway. They only have about 5 or 6 now offered at the price, a very small selection of a couple specialty sandwiches.

I normally get a turkey, but I can’t even get a plain turkey as a $5 footlong, but I could get the idiotic cold cut combo with mystery meat that tastes nasty.


52 posted on 06/22/2009 11:22:24 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“This is strictly an emotion-based thread.”

Not strictly:

With both stores gone – and a six-figure debt load remaining – Batie sued under the Servicemembers act. The law bars anyone from terminating an active-duty service member’s installment contract, including leases, without a court order.


53 posted on 06/22/2009 11:23:16 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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To: DFG
Easy case for the judge.
IF Subway is a large corporate contributor to Republicans, Leon Batie Jr wins.

If Subway is a large corporate contributor to Democrats, Leon Batie Jr loses.

See, easy.

54 posted on 06/22/2009 11:23:32 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: listenhillary
With both stores gone – and a six-figure debt load remaining – Batie sued under the Servicemembers act.

The law bars anyone from terminating an active-duty service member's installment contract, including leases, without a court order.

55 posted on 06/22/2009 11:25:29 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012!)
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To: trisham

“They count every item that is placed on the bread”

Interesting you should say that. About the time I left, they changed the way the sandwiches were made so they could cut down the amount of fixings in it.

For instance, used to be a foot long tuna sub had four large scoops of tuna. Now it’s three spread out over the bread. They used to demand that you put six tomato slices on any footlong. Now they put four.

Remember how they used to put U cut in the bread to make sure they could be stuffed with fixings? About 1999 when I left the company decided to just the the bread straight so employees wouldnt have enough room to fill the bread with food.


56 posted on 06/22/2009 11:25:34 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: penelopesire

Try Jimmy Johns........good fresh sandwiches. Company is growing by leaps and bounds even in this economy.


57 posted on 06/22/2009 11:26:48 AM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Armedanddangerous

Please, don’t ever buy a subway franchise folks...

I hear you always smell like onions and a sub sandwich when you go home and you can’t shake the smell...


58 posted on 06/22/2009 11:27:06 AM PDT by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: Armedanddangerous
"I ended up losing probably $50,000 in the deal to get out from under the thumb of the Deluca mob...I guess that was better than a homicide charge..eh?"

HA!!
Yea, sure was my friend.

$50,000 hard earned dollars down the drain.
~oy.

Still, given what you've learned about reality & business?
Not all that bad a price to pay for a lifelong lesson.

Avoidance of a potential homicide charge, OTOH, an act of Divine Guidance. Make no mistake 'bout that.
Somebody up there likes you, AaD. ;^)

59 posted on 06/22/2009 11:27:47 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: oust the louse

That’s true..


60 posted on 06/22/2009 11:27:53 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: DFG
I wonder if the "Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief Act" (or whatever it's name is these days) comes into play here.

Supposed to help prevent undesirable things from happening to military personnel while deployed under orders. It was probably written / modified before franchises became so popular, though. Don't know what it says now.

61 posted on 06/22/2009 11:27:58 AM PDT by ken in texas (come fold with us - team #36120)
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To: MEGoody

Those are some of the most disturbing commercials out there today. I don’t eat there for the same reason. Guess I’ll start going to a local sub shop instead of Subway or Quiznos.


62 posted on 06/22/2009 11:28:12 AM PDT by Hatheos
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To: DFG

Subway is nothing but SALT.


63 posted on 06/22/2009 11:29:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: TaxRelief
"I guess they thought he would not resist."

If they did they thought wrong, dead wrong.

This has enormous potential for quickly growing formidable legs, watch 'n see.

64 posted on 06/22/2009 11:31:27 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Landru

I only care what they call me objectively as a violation of logic (and of vocabulary, in the “censorship” scenario). I don’t take it personally, except in that it might piss me off slightly, causing me to be that much more likely to give them the shaft (along with any other liberal I happen to see in the next 30 minutes).


65 posted on 06/22/2009 11:31:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Landru

I literally was standing in the parking lot of my restaurant with arguing with a subway rep in the middle of a snowstorm.

I had my right hand in his face cursing him and my left hand in my pants pocket wrapped around a smith and wesson bodyguard 38 snubby.

I told the man never to return if he valued his life...he never did while I was there.

My employees were watching me through the window wondering how long it would be before I blew his brains out.

You can only push a man so far before he pushes back.


66 posted on 06/22/2009 11:31:57 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: jeffc

Major medical expenses after eating at Subway or Queerznos?


67 posted on 06/22/2009 11:32:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Still Thinking
"I only care what they call me objectively as a violation of logic (and of vocabulary, in the “censorship” scenario). I don’t take it personally, except in that it might piss me off slightly, causing me to be that much more likely to give them the shaft (along with any other liberal I happen to see in the next 30 minutes)."

HA!!!
I like the way you think, chock full of horse sense.

HTH I've managed to miss such a decent person here, all these years is the story of my life, I swear. LOL

68 posted on 06/22/2009 11:35:31 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: DFG

Headline should read: Shopowner fails to pay rent, loses stores.


69 posted on 06/22/2009 11:35:46 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Frantzie

With business names like OPM Ventures (Other People’s Money) and the Dalton Gang they are going to get their buns toasted in court.


70 posted on 06/22/2009 11:35:47 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: DFG
One of the few advantages to living in the Philly area is that just about every local deli and pizza shop makes sandwiches far superior to anything found at a Subway or Quiznos.
71 posted on 06/22/2009 11:36:44 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Better to convert enemies to allies than to destroy them)
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To: Armedanddangerous

What was the immediate cause of the confrontation? Sounds like it must have been a doozy (or maybe just the final straw upon the overloaded camel).


72 posted on 06/22/2009 11:39:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Landru

Thag you. Thag you vurry much. ;-) Same to you, bud.


73 posted on 06/22/2009 11:40:19 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Armedanddangerous
"You can only push a man so far before he pushes back."

True-true.
Glad everything turned out your way, and it did go your way.
Hoping you found a niche somewhere, either for yourself or for someone else, as long as you're with honest people.

Ironically the Subway slime-balls? They had a hand in your knowing what creeps look/sound/act like; since, you were schooled by the best crooks in the business when you inadvertently tangled with Subway, eh?

74 posted on 06/22/2009 11:41:33 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: listenhillary
“You don't fall behind in rent and expect to keep your franchise.”

“Batie sued under the Servicemembers act. The law bars anyone from terminating an active-duty service member's installment contract, including leases, without a court order.”

Unless you are a service member. Subway terminated his lease without a court order. I expect they will have to pay him big money.

75 posted on 06/22/2009 11:43:12 AM PDT by monday
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To: ConservativeMind

Perhap[s. . .but I can’t get over the awful sounding commercial with the dancing rats in it.

No Quiznos for me, or Subway.


76 posted on 06/22/2009 11:47:23 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: listenhillary

Does the Soldier’s and Sailor’s Relief Act come into play in this?


77 posted on 06/22/2009 11:47:48 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

see 75


78 posted on 06/22/2009 11:48:09 AM PDT by monday
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To: jeffc

“Nifongville” = Durham, North Carolina, home of disgraced former DA Mike Nifong, of Duke lacrosse case fame.

I have several other slang names for this town, none of which I can repeat in polite company. :)

}:-)4


79 posted on 06/22/2009 11:50:41 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: Landru
Is this what MBAs are taught, these days?

I'm beginning to think so after hearing a few praise Obama. They don't believe in producing a better product, just profit by manipulation and deceit. I don't think I want an MBA anymore.

80 posted on 06/22/2009 11:51:30 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: Hacklehead

see #75


81 posted on 06/22/2009 11:57:12 AM PDT by monday
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To: DFG

Well I like Subway sandwiches.

I guess one reason I like them is I get all the trimmings. This makes the ratio of stuff to bread quite high. They have trouble closing the sandwich to get it in the wrap.

Apparently they put exactly a predetermined amount of each requested trimming on the sandwich. If you only ask for one or two trimmings, that’s going to make for a high bread ratio.


82 posted on 06/22/2009 12:01:54 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: DFG

This is standard stuff in profitable franchise operations. Getting a GM franchise 40-50 years ago cost a bunch in bribe money to the GM zone manager.


83 posted on 06/22/2009 12:06:14 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Frantzie

“Subway sucks (devious management) and Jared is a creep. They use mystery meat too.”

Road Kill.


84 posted on 06/22/2009 12:07:35 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: DFG
I go to my local Togo's for sandwiches. Or the supermarket deli.

-PJ

85 posted on 06/22/2009 12:14:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: steve86; jeffc
Paste it in me, Scott.
86 posted on 06/22/2009 12:16:09 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Mamzelle
In the rural mountainous south, an awful lot of these franchises are owned by Muslims. Some were seen dancing and celebrating 9/12.

That was an urban legend. There was the same rumor about our local Subway here in the midwest. The dude that owned the restaurant had to put up like 50 flags to convince people he wasn't a terrorist.

Taking franchises from a veteran is unacceptable, however. I hope they fix the situation.
87 posted on 06/22/2009 12:19:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: DFG
IMO, privately owned restaurants(Not a franchise)usually have better food than a franchise. The only appeal about a Franchise, of any food type, is that you can depend on it being somewhat similar no matter where it is. Some subways make great stuff, there is one close that does, some Quiznos make great stuff, there is one close that doesn't:). There are private places near me, non franchised places, one in particular, that make sands superior to either Quiznos or Subway. The best one makes a Philly Cheese Steak that is better than any I have ever had. It is near a number of businesses and during the times 11 AM to 2 PM(some places stagger their lunch times)it is so crowded that you are lucky to get in and out before your lunch is over.

Fortunately I am retired and don't have to worry about time, unfortunately I no work in that area!

Before McDonalds, and others, started putting franchises everywhere the local burger joints made superior stuff in my area and they still do.

Franchises are assembly line food preparers and it depends on the specific owner if they are any good or not. I eat at non franchised places when I eat out locally most of the time.

88 posted on 06/22/2009 12:19:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Political Junkie Too

I loved Togo’s sandwiches when I lived in California. Unfortunately, there are no Togo’s here in DFW.


89 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:59 PM PDT by DFG
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To: MEGoody
I refuse to patronize Quiznos because of their obnoxious “Put it in me” commercials.

Bingo!

Their commercials have always been gross in one way or another.

90 posted on 06/22/2009 12:32:02 PM PDT by Eaker (The Two Loudest Sounds in the World.....Bang When it should have been Click and the Reverse.)
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To: DFG

Boycott time for Subway.


91 posted on 06/22/2009 12:34:37 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: monday
“Batie sued under the Servicemembers act. The law bars anyone from terminating an active-duty service member's installment contract, including leases, without a court order.”

I wonder if the law covers business leases as well as apartment leases.

Also, it's quite likely the lease was to a corporation and not Batie himself. There may actually be multiple corporations involved. It's common to have a corporation per store, in turn owned by the franchisee, which is its own corporation. This is done to contain liability issues that may arise at individual stores.

92 posted on 06/22/2009 12:36:17 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Eaker

Remember the gross singing rat they used?

what put quiznos in chapter 11 was their idiotic commercials. (and equally idiotic sponsorships)


93 posted on 06/22/2009 12:38:33 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I get my sandwiches topped with lettuce, spinach, tomato, onion, black olive, banana peppers and honey mustard. A chef salad on a honey wheat roll.


94 posted on 06/22/2009 12:40:42 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: meandog
"Lots of Subway restaurants on military bases and they need to be given the old heave ho!"

When did that start? I left the Army at the end of 2000 and up to that time AAFES had more or less of a monopoly with the Robin Hood Sandwich Shoppe and Deli when it came to sandwich joints on post.

95 posted on 06/22/2009 12:41:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
When did that start? I left the Army at the end of 2000 and up to that time AAFES had more or less of a monopoly with the Robin Hood Sandwich Shoppe and Deli when it came to sandwich joints on post.

Though not entirely always credible, according to wiki there are at least "200 Subway franchises" existing on current military bases.

96 posted on 06/22/2009 12:45:19 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: Still Thinking
No wonder Jared lost weight. He probably couldn’t stomach the stuff.

******************

Heh. I wouldn't be surprised.

97 posted on 06/22/2009 12:45:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rwfromkansas

I’d rather spend the 6 bucks for a 1lb burrito at a local joint 5 min from me, with actual chicken or beef.


98 posted on 06/22/2009 12:47:16 PM PDT by John Will
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To: GOP Poet; ConservativeMind; MEGoody

between those furry teeth monkies and new commercial with the gay toaster oven, I don’t wish to buy Quiznos either....


99 posted on 06/22/2009 12:49:01 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

If you think they were using spoiled meat, why did you not report it to a local health inspector. No restaurants around my neck of the woods can get away with selling spoiled food. I thought that was true of this entire country. Where do you live (so I don’t move there)?


100 posted on 06/22/2009 1:07:56 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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