I'm growing my own and the plants are already over 2ft.
Three plants of over 30
No room? Bad soil? Try bags
Posted on 06/28/2009 11:45:51 AM PDT by Nachum
(AP) — AKRON, Ohio - Standing on brown earth on a flat field hundreds of yards from the nearest road, Don Carey is surrounded by tiny plants.
He walks along a three-quarter-acre plot in a desolate spot in this rural township in northeastern Portage County and looks at the thousands of tobacco plants he is growing.
Carey, 49, decided in April, when federal taxes on tobacco skyrocketed, to grow his own.
(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...
“if ya walk too much they’ll tax your feet”
Five bucks says that 27 different Federal agencies...including the IRS...will be all over his a$$ by the end of this week.
THe feds are on the way. FDA feds.
If you’re gonna do this, do it quietly.
I wonder how they would respond to a “pick your own” farm.
I wonder how they would respond to a “pick your own” farm.
I think you can grow up to a quarter-acre of tobacco for personal use. Any more than that, and it would be... problematic.
Just the same, I could see a massive black market springing up. If TPTB decide to force us into a cashless economy, tobacco, pot and liquor could easily become an illicit sort of currency.
hmmm..interesting idea.
Hmmm.... Wonder what the feds have to say about the taxes? I'd be surprised if the 'law' lets home growers skate on the taxes.
I wonder how long it will be before we see the Pot farms in the National Forests replaced by tobacco.
Although this man is a smoker, I bet that he will be healthier too.
No additives.
I wish I knew his secret.
I’ve tried three times to raise up tobacco plants.
I was just thinking that. A tobacco coop like they have organic food coops. Also wonder about the nicotine content of this.
parsy, who smokes a pipe once in a while.
Good for him.
There’s just nothing like picking tobacco worms on a hot summer day.
Home grown tobacco ping
My plants always die when they are about the size of a teardrop.
No room? Bad soil? Try bags
Sweet MaxMax!
How will the new FDA ruling [putting tobacco under the thumb of the FDA] change things - if at all?
I used to work in Richmond, VA. I don’t smoke and can’t stand the smell of cigarette smoke but those tobacco barns where the tobacco was cured really did have a pleasant aroma.
My Mother grew up on a farm in Florida. They grew just about everything but I can recall her saying the one thing she did not like to work with was tobacco. It was apparently very hard work.
I’m not a cigarette smoker, but I do smoke cigars. I wonder how this minimally processed tobacco tastes as a cigarette. I’m kind of surprised that this kind of home-grown or organic tobacco hasn’t sprung up.
What kind of bags are those you’re using (if it’s your garden)?
Cutting the stuff in September was close to equaling that
Anything that will hurt tobacco needs a pretty strong remedy. Hornworms can wipe you out quickly. Anything you spray on tobbaco will hurt you pretty quickly.
I think this guy’s screwed. Last I’d heard, we’re allowed to grow a tenth of an acre, and can’t sell what we grow.
Thanks for the ping, Califreak.
Don't give them full sun until they're at least 3-4 inches tall, and then
only a couple hours a day to harden the stems. Then transplant
the seedlings into the ground or 4-5 gallon planters.
When (and they will) they start turning yellow give them nitrogen,
potash and miracle grow. Tobacco needs lots of Nitrogen. Here's how I use it,
Two parts Nitrate of Soda,
Three parts Phosphate of lime,
One part Potash.
This is a perfect fertilizer mixture for Tobacco and give them a sprinkle
at least once a week and adjust as they turn yellow.
/Salute
Does anyone know what the ideal conditions are for growing tobacco? Is there something about the states that grow a lot that make them ideal, versus for example Central California?
You can still buy it without the tax. I give it about a year before they figure it out.
You’re welcome.
I have one of those jiffy greenhouse deals.
Maybe I’ll try again.
can tobacco be grown hydroponic?
How about another twist? Rent out the land and anyone can grow on lots which are rented. Farm make money individuals get what they want and no major tax (as of now) on the rental thus negating the federal income on tabacco.
Not to many people will be motivated enough to do it though, Tobacco is a nasty plant to work with!
You can still buy it without the tax. I give it about a year before they figure it out.
"Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"
Give them a shot of miracle grow after they're about an inch high.
They (roots) are easy to separate from each other if you just take chunks
and submerse the dirt/roots in water.
Oh, move them from the pan after they're at least two inches tall, and
up to five inches. Just keep the soil moist and out of direct sun.
Or in a bag?
You can just cut a slot in a $2 bag of Walmart manure compost and plant away... it’s just about perfect for this.
Thanks.
I suggested something similar when the new taxes were being discussed .. I don’t think your idea will work because it relies on many people somehow sprouting a green thumb out of the blue..
My “A” plan was to sublet the acreage and have the renters hire me to grow and tend their crops.
My “B” plan was to smuggle in finished tobacco from the Dominican Republic and other growing areas...
My “C” plan is to manufacture “dual use” products .. cigarette tubes and such that are also highly taxed and sell them as something else to avoid taxation...
And don’t PLANT in Miracle Grow! That time release stuff can really screw you if you have to flush your containers to rid the root system of too much sodium or you have nutrient lock out.
Everyone, including us non smokers, has already figured it out and it was posted here in FR so do be afraid to say it out loud, they most likely already know.
You can buy cured tobacco at a rate of less than $5 per carton. You can buy cured and flavored pipe tobacco at a rate of less than $10 per carton. You can buy brand name cartons of cigarettes for less that $15 a carton (http://www.okcig.com/Product_info.asp?ID=195).
Excellent. We know the allowed acreage. But what is the allowed number of plastic bags? :) Could BATF or FDA clarify, please?
This is really gonna tick-off the Political Elite.
I`ve picked tobacco worms,but only when it was to wet
to get the high-boy in the fields.
We sprayed 4 acres yesterday with Orthene,much easier
than hand picking worms.We have a few flea beatles also
The hard work comes when cuttin` time arrives,but sounds
like you know a bit about tobacco
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