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Smoker decides to grow his own tobacco
cleveland.com ^ | 6/28/09 | Jim Carney

Posted on 06/28/2009 11:45:51 AM PDT by Nachum

(AP) — AKRON, Ohio - Standing on brown earth on a flat field hundreds of yards from the nearest road, Don Carey is surrounded by tiny plants.

He walks along a three-quarter-acre plot in a desolate spot in this rural township in northeastern Portage County and looks at the thousands of tobacco plants he is growing.

Carey, 49, decided in April, when federal taxes on tobacco skyrocketed, to grow his own.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


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To: Nachum

The tax man will soon pay him a visit for daring to try to get around the state’s firm control on tobacco.


51 posted on 06/28/2009 1:32:59 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: calex59
Well, some didn't know because I got a few freep mails asking about it.
52 posted on 06/28/2009 1:48:27 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Ok, I was just saying that many have already figured it out, the stuff hit the streets about the day after the taxes went into place. I don’t smoke, but my grandson does and I let him know about it. :)


53 posted on 06/28/2009 1:59:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
That is the nice thing about FR and FReepers, the wealth of info is there 24/7/365.

It's the reason for my tag-line!

54 posted on 06/28/2009 2:04:30 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: eddie willers

“Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

“Let him out!!”


55 posted on 06/28/2009 2:06:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Beagle8U
There is a loop hole in the roll-your-own tobacco tax law. You can still buy it without the tax.

Where and how?

56 posted on 06/28/2009 2:26:56 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: OldDeckHand
I’m kind of surprised that this kind of home-grown or organic tobacco hasn’t sprung up.

Home beer brewing has been kinda a big thing for some years.

57 posted on 06/28/2009 2:40:19 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: unique
Does anyone know what the ideal conditions are for growing tobacco?

Hot and humid - think Cuba.

58 posted on 06/28/2009 2:42:06 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Nachum

...Greetings From North Carolina!!

where my neighbor will sell you tobacco for personal use...and another neighbor sells hand raised “gourmet” tobacco....this has been going on for at least three years that I know of....and BTW you have to cut the big stems out if you want clean yellow leaf for cigs....pipe guys do a different treatment and add stuff like maybe apple slices....I quit smoking five years ago, but I’ve got to say I still really like the smell of pipe tobacco.


59 posted on 06/28/2009 2:45:40 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Nachum
Wickard V Filburn. The drug warriors love that decision.

Allen Carr : The Easy Way to Stop Smoking. Look it up. Makes quitting pretty painless. You too can never give those bastards another dime.
60 posted on 06/28/2009 2:48:08 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: MaxMax

Doesn’t it have to be well drained soil also, or else Black Shank can get the roots?

Friend’s nephew raises a dozen acres or so each year and he had one field last year that didn’t drain very well and had to spend $700 for a gallon of some chemical to spray after the shank appeared.


61 posted on 06/28/2009 2:57:21 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: MaxMax

Do you have a formula for bamboo fertilizer?


62 posted on 06/28/2009 3:00:37 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: thecabal

Actually, this may be a great time to challenge Wickard v. Filburn and its cumulative effect rationale. The conservative block of the SC may be willing to overrule Wickard and start narrowing the Commerce Clause.


63 posted on 06/28/2009 3:03:51 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: Sandy

Any smoke shop, drug store. It comes in cans.


64 posted on 06/28/2009 3:12:49 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: ComeUpHigher

We could always dare to dream, but I seriously doubt that even the SC is going to stop the statist steamrolling of FedGov.


65 posted on 06/28/2009 3:18:58 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

It is already legal to farm 1/10 acre of tobacco for personal use. You just can’t sell it.

Its the same with beer and wine. You can brew up to 200 gallons/yr for personal use.


66 posted on 06/28/2009 3:22:13 PM PDT by darth
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To: Nachum

hold on a second. are you telling me there is a law .. on the books... that says i cannot use my land, my seeds, my water, and my labor to grow something for personal use? (drugs not included)

exactly how could that square with the Constitution?


67 posted on 06/28/2009 3:22:52 PM PDT by sten
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To: sten
(drugs not included)

The FDA is now classifying Nicotine as a drug. Neat huh? All of the Drug Warriors will get theirs when the Sugar tax hits. Welcome to the party, pal. The Calorie tax is going to hit every criminal out there that likes to eat. So there.

68 posted on 06/28/2009 3:29:41 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: AH_LiveRight

i believe some of the founders grew their own tobacco, so it would be fairly tough to enforce such a law and have it stand up in court.

if it were upheld, that would mean the founders would be found guilty today.

i’m fairly certain the judges today would back off from that

(hmmm... maybe asking whether or not the founders would be found guilty under a law is a good way to defeat it)


69 posted on 06/28/2009 3:33:47 PM PDT by sten
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To: MaxMax
We now purchase tobacco leaves. The leaves are not taxed so a carton of cigarettes still costs about $10.00. Five pounds of tobacco leaves and twelve cartons of tubes (shipping included) $100.00 If anyone is interested in the seller who also sells electric cigarette makers, just send me an e-mail.
70 posted on 06/28/2009 3:43:03 PM PDT by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: Boiling Pots

Could you be more specific? My husband buys cans, and the price jumped from about $12 per can (6 oz.) to $30 per can after the tax increase.


71 posted on 06/28/2009 3:53:52 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy

I don’t smoke, but I see them for sale behind the counters of CVS and Walgreens. Tin cans of Drum, and another brand or two.


72 posted on 06/28/2009 3:57:30 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Nachum; MaxMax

Grow and roll your own, brew your own, reload your own. Sounds like a plan!


73 posted on 06/28/2009 4:01:33 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Harold Shea

Only a little, my grandfather raised tobacco in virginia
and we would go there in the summertime.


74 posted on 06/28/2009 4:22:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MaxMax

Do you have a better pic of the pyramidal raised bed in the background? The Mrs. and I find that design very interesting.


75 posted on 06/28/2009 4:51:55 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Califreak

I noticed that this year in Connecticut I have seen more Acres planted with Tobacco [Broadleaf] then I have seen in ten or more years, also there is more Shade grown tents than I have seen in many years. Much of the shadegrown acreage has been fallow for years, prices must be up!


76 posted on 06/28/2009 7:31:38 PM PDT by ABN 505
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To: Sandy
Could you be more specific? My husband buys cans, and the price jumped from about $12 per can (6 oz.) to $30 per can after the tax increase.

The Loophole

77 posted on 06/28/2009 8:06:04 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Michael Barnes
Micheal Barnes wrote: "And don’t PLANT in Miracle Grow!"

I refuse to buy Scotts-Miracle Gro products anyways since they ban their employees from smoking on or off the their property. I encourage all of you to join me in boycotting the poison they sell.

Here is a worthwhile link if you don't believe me:

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2005/12/scotts-miracle-gro-to-begin-firing.html

78 posted on 06/28/2009 8:43:19 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Sarajevo
Do you have a better pic of the pyramidal raised bed in the background?

It's called a Strawberry tree and it's made from cedar.
You can find the plans through an online search.
I made mine from scratch and it holds about
65 strawberry plants.

79 posted on 06/29/2009 1:32:55 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: Seniram US
I have thirty tobacco plants growing and about fifty seedlings in limbo.
Those seedlings are so lonely.
80 posted on 06/29/2009 1:36:18 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: MaxMax

Got it! Thanx!


81 posted on 06/29/2009 2:00:33 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: thecabal
Worse: see the Raich decision. Flatly stated that reducing demand in an illegal interstate market is actionable; opens the door to up-the-wazoo regulation of anything (including oh-dark-thirty dynamic raids), and I'd guess tobacco would be a prime candidate.
82 posted on 06/29/2009 2:08:05 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: AH_LiveRight

See my #82. You’ve hit on the link that I was trying to recall when writing it.


83 posted on 06/29/2009 2:12:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

What taxes? He wouldn’t have to pay taxes if he grew tomatoes and ate them himself. Why would he have to pay for growing tobacky?


84 posted on 06/29/2009 9:00:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: sten

The founders also grew their own hemp. That is also extremely illegal to grow.


85 posted on 07/12/2009 11:19:08 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: MaxMax

What would grow well in hot humid South East Texas? I am looking for a winter crop.


86 posted on 07/12/2009 11:25:41 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Nachum

Update, September 5, 2009:

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/57395497.html


87 posted on 09/05/2009 10:23:11 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division

Great article


88 posted on 09/05/2009 8:36:20 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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