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Sarah Palin For President
Macleans ^ | July 2, 2009 | John Parisella

Posted on 07/02/2009 9:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Kimberly GG
same B.S. that got us amnesty last time

You mean Reagan's amnesty? Name 3 people you would support in '12.

81 posted on 07/02/2009 10:21:15 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: counterpunch
Those rallies obvious didn’t translate into the sort of votes the Republican ticket needed to win.

RINO McCain took the conservative vote for granted...I know a lot of them who didn't go to the polls because of HIM....not her. And I also know many including myself who DID go to the polls because of her and in spite of him.

82 posted on 07/02/2009 10:21:38 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin, for all her good looks, verve and gumption, is woefully unqualified for national office. It’s not a stretch to assert that in many crucial areas, she’s empty headed.

Republicans just watched a goodhearted but over his head Republican president damn near destroy the party and the economy. The next Republican president had better be a top shelf, heavyweight thinker who knows what the hell he is talking about, and who has the experience, temperament and judgment to handle that very challenging office. I’m sorry to tell Palin supporters on FR that she is not now, nor will she ever be, that guy.

The sooner the Palin tsunami blows over for conservatives, the better off we’ll be. If FR turns into a Palin lovefest, it will be a big mistake for the website, because FR will be backing a loser.


83 posted on 07/02/2009 10:22:17 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: counterpunch; Bringbackthedraft
But you have a point, those crowds were there for Sarah Palin. She was the rockstar on the ticket. She is the one people went to go see, and went to vote for. And yet she still fell 10 million votes short. That’s a really huge amount. It wasn’t close at all.

Look at the hard numbers. Why would anyone on our side advocate a repeat of that? It amounts to an endorsement of 0bama’s reelection.


Your position defies logic.

The election was primarily about McCain, he was the one running for President, not Sarah. Adding her to the ticket added many more millions of votes that McCain with a Moderate VP like Ridge (who was on his short list) he would never had gotten.
84 posted on 07/02/2009 10:22:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Niteflyr

What poll and where did they poll?


85 posted on 07/02/2009 10:23:19 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: beckett
Sarah Palin, for all her good looks, verve and gumption, is woefully unqualified for national office. It’s not a stretch to assert that in many crucial areas, she’s empty headed.

Care to back up that unsubstantiated opinion with some facts?
86 posted on 07/02/2009 10:23:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoCalPol

Presidential election polling place...geez...


87 posted on 07/02/2009 10:24:28 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: repubpub
I don't recall the Establishment of the GOP being to thrilled about Reagan wining the nomination in 80’ (heads exploding comes to mind), and many Democrats believed he was nothing more then a moron actor whose strings were pulled by his fat cat masters and who would ultimately destroy the whole world and bring about Armageddon.

Yet he won in a landslide.

The fact of the matter is, The Presidential Election of 2012 is not going to be about the Republican Nominee, it is going to be an referendum on Obama, like most Presidential Campaigns against an incumbent are. If the Public has soured on Obama’s policies enough by then, it will be hard for him to remain in office regardless of whom we nominate. But if the economy has recovered and it appears that Obama’s policies are working, it will be near impossible to remove him from office regardless of who we nominate.

Remember, in 92, most top tier candidates in the Democratic party decided not to run for President since they decided it was virtually impossible to defeat Bush Sr. in November. Who did they eventually nominate? The three term Womanizing Governor from Arkansas with more baggage then a Coach Outlet who almost had to be dragged off the stage at the 88’ Democratic Convention and received his only applause that night when he finally stopped talking and left. He was the “Trailer Trash” candidate. He took on the incumbent who just finished prosecuting a successful and stunning victory against Iraq whose approval ratings were over 90% for a good period of 91. And this “bubba” from Arkansas ended up not only wining, but gave the best Electoral Showing for the Democrats in a Presidential Race since Johnson in 64’.

88 posted on 07/02/2009 10:24:44 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Sarah Palin...

As of 12 Noon, January 20, 2012...

Lovely ring to that...

And Vice President Anyone-but-Willard-Mitt-Romney


89 posted on 07/02/2009 10:24:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Niteflyr

I hope you’re right but the MSM is slick and most people don’t pay attention to politics in America anymore, they just go on their feelings or one or two newbites they hear on PMSNBC or CNN.

Go do a man on the street interview and ask them the name of the current vice president of the United States. Most won’t know or care.

Like it or not image is everything with many people today. Look at the sickening 24/7 news coverage of Michael Jackson’s death. All the Dems would have to do is pull out those old tv interviews where Sarah spaced out on certain questions, have the late night comedians hit on her again, and people will think Sarah is dumb and incapable of being president, just like they did after they saw the Katie Couric blank out bits.


90 posted on 07/02/2009 10:25:29 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Carry_Okie

Yeah, Reagan lost the GOP primary against Ford.
The Republican party ran the wrong ticket in 1976.
They do that a lot.

Ford-Dole was a losing ticket, just like McCain-Palin.
Dole went on to lose even bigger on his own.
Is that what you’re looking to repeat with Sarah Palin?

That is the only thing I can glean from what you’re saying.
Because I know you know better than to compare an intra-party primary to a general election.
They aren’t the same thing. Candidates who are not nominated by their party are not electoral losers in the same way that a losing general election candidate is.

Most nominees run a couple times for the nomination before they get it.
Not being chosen as the nominee in prior cycles does not have any effect on their future electability.


91 posted on 07/02/2009 10:29:01 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Make that ...

President Sarah Palin...

As of 12 Noon, January 20, 2013...

and leave in the bit that goes...

And Vice President Anyone-but-Willard-Mitt-Romney


92 posted on 07/02/2009 10:32:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: deannadurbin
All the Dems would have to do is pull out those old tv interviews where Sarah spaced out on certain questions, have the late night comedians hit on her again, and people will think Sarah is dumb and incapable of being president, just like they did after they saw the Katie Couric blank out bits.

Let's face it if MSM wanted to make BO look like a moron it would be easy without Photoshop. They did a great hit job on Palin. For sure. I's all a matter of how you want to make someone look. I say time and again my first impression of Reagan was less positive than I had with Palin. All she would have to do is pull an Obama and do only gigs that make her look good and surround herself with people who enforce it....she has the ability to come up to speed IMHO.

93 posted on 07/02/2009 10:32:11 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: deannadurbin; Niteflyr
Like it or not image is everything with many people today. Look at the sickening 24/7 news coverage of Michael Jackson’s death. All the Dems would have to do is pull out those old tv interviews where Sarah spaced out on certain questions, have the late night comedians hit on her again, and people will think Sarah is dumb and incapable of being president, just like they did after they saw the Katie Couric blank out bits.

In case you haven't noticed, they are going to do this to any conservative candidate. Furthermore, the only candidates they are not going to do that to, at least at the same intensity, are going to be moderates or losers like McCain, Rudy, Mitt, or the Huckster who have flawed backgrounds on conservative issues or their current positions on important issues are flawed from a conservative perspective. And once they help the worst candidate win the primary, they will do exactly what they did to McCain, turn on them.

What we need instead, is a fearless conservative that won't play their game and will hit back hard whenever they try to play their dirty tricks.

Sarah is the only candidate out their who currently matches that description.

This is why the media hates her and fears her.

This is why she must be destroyed earlier.

And then you have the establishment GOP who hated Reagan as much as they hate Sarah and any other candidate that actually has some conservative values.
94 posted on 07/02/2009 10:32:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: beckett

MittWitt and the like have no background in the real world
especially current world affairs.

Mittwitt and his 5 sons never served in the military, Gov. Palin’s son serves in Iraq.

gov. Palin just negotiated with TransCanada and ExxonMobil for the largest pipeline and energy program.

She has first hand discussions with Gens. of Pacific Command re missile defense, She has been to the Middle East, and just back from Kosovo.

Don’t embarrass yourself with comments about a person you know nothing about.


95 posted on 07/02/2009 10:33:09 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoConPubbie
Sarah is the only candidate out their who currently matches that description. This is why the media hates her and fears her.

Bingo.

96 posted on 07/02/2009 10:34:25 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You still didn’t tell us which horse you’re backing in 2012.
That really depends on which horses are running, and how they do in the trials.
If I were to bet on a horserace, I wouldn't put my money down on a horse a year in advance.

I know a horse that can't run when I see it, though.
Once they've been broken, they're finished.
 
97 posted on 07/02/2009 10:34:31 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hey TN, you go girl.

MittWitt lives around 10 miles from me here in San Diego.
the guy is a joke.


98 posted on 07/02/2009 10:36:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: counterpunch; Carry_Okie
Ford-Dole was a losing ticket, just like McCain-Palin. Dole went on to lose even bigger on his own. Is that what you’re looking to repeat with Sarah Palin?

That is the only thing I can glean from what you’re saying. Because I know you know better than to compare an intra-party primary to a general election. They aren’t the same thing. Candidates who are not nominated by their party are not electoral losers in the same way that a losing general election candidate is.


You're original analogy that this discussion is based on is flawed.

You assume, incorrectly I might add, that liberal Democrat VP's and/or Moderate GOP VP's who run on a losing ticket are the same as a Conservative VP.

Sorry, but as I stated before, this country still considers itself to be a conservative country by a 40% to 22% margin.

There is where your theory falls apart.

It is truly an apples and oranges comparison as is your contention that McCain/Palin lost because of Palin. McCain/Palin lost because McCain's position's on the issues were mostly left-of-center and did not provide a contrast to the other ticket, just a Democrat-Lite version.
99 posted on 07/02/2009 10:37:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

>they are going to do this to any conservative candidate

True but it makes it tougher when the candidate herself / himself gives them ready ammunition, like blanking out on specific questions in a high profile interview, winking at the audience during national televised debates and doing an “aw shucks” or “say it ain’t so” routine, etc. Same thing happened with Jindal’s response to Obama. His profile dropped like lead after he gave a rather schoolboyish rebuttal.

I say whoever the male candidate is in 2012 let Sarah be vice president nominee to bring in that homespun heartland vote. However in today’s world you HAVE to get the Reagan Democrats and many of them won’t vote for someone like Sarah whom the mainstream media constantly portrays as dumb.


100 posted on 07/02/2009 10:39:28 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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