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Palin is Not the Answer
Reason Magazine online ^ | July 10, 2009 | cathy young

Posted on 07/10/2009 12:37:29 PM PDT by dr_who

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To: counterpunch
Reagan was NEVER a member of the pack of losers calling themselves the Libertarian Party.
"Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions." --Ronald Reagan

41 posted on 07/10/2009 12:53:06 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: dr_who
'What's a "Vishy"? Perhaps you're really referring to"

Yeah, and that too. Could also be Fishy Republicans, only with a French accent.

42 posted on 07/10/2009 12:53:57 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

Reason is a libertarian mag


43 posted on 07/10/2009 12:54:08 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: dr_who
The author is trying to make a reasoned argument.

And failing miserably. George Will, Peggy Noonan and David Frum are the "right"?

44 posted on 07/10/2009 12:54:50 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: dr_who
Palin has enthusiastically embraced "victim conservatism" . . .Like the "oppressed groups" of the left, these traditionalists have some valid complaints but channel them into a destructive ideology of polarization and resentment.

Mainline Republicans see 1960s Marxist-Alinsky street rabble-cum-Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) attacking a Party member who's not "one of them" and their response?

"Run away! Run away!"

Mainline Republicans don't have the guts to confront the Rat Party's tactics.. or is it something else?

Rockefeller still rules? A generation ago it was the Goldwater supporters outside the Republican mainstream were "purveyors of hate." Now, a slight improvement, we're purveyors of polarization and resentment.

Nelson Rockefeller according to Stuart Spencer (Rockefeller's public relations head) said, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race."

We have to destroy Sarah Palin as a member of the human race?

45 posted on 07/10/2009 12:54:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dr_who
Douthat concedes she has to "bone up on the issues" if she is to have a political future

This seems to be the biggest complaint against her. It just doesent seem to me like that would be such a hard thing to do. I just dont get all the animus from "this " side of the aisle.

46 posted on 07/10/2009 12:55:28 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: counterpunch
"Alrighty. You forgot the /s"

I thought the baby and communist jabs were self-evident, but the point is taken. Sarcasm tags always, from here on out.

47 posted on 07/10/2009 12:55:30 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: meandog

There is retreating and there is maneuvering.


48 posted on 07/10/2009 12:56:10 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: pissant

Hunter/DeMint 2012


To your knowledge is Hunter making any preps for the 12 primaries? If so are you free to share any? What is he doing at the present time, consulting, speaking, etc?


49 posted on 07/10/2009 12:56:34 PM PDT by deport
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To: dr_who

cathy young: “Its true that she has been attacked viciously by the Left and by members of her own party in terms I couldn’t repeat in front of my mother. But somehow I can’t resist the urge to pile on. Given the chance to defend her against these irrational and vicious attacks by her and my common enemy I can’t do it. If I speak up for her, they might come after me next.”


50 posted on 07/10/2009 12:56:51 PM PDT by marron
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The RINOs are still bitter and clinging to a time when there was more of them.


51 posted on 07/10/2009 12:57:15 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: dr_who

I’m not even going to bother reading it, but yes she is.

Palin 2012.


52 posted on 07/10/2009 12:57:48 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Mojave

Palin has a lot of critics on the right, and for a number of reasons.
The one thing the 3 you mention all have in common is a respect for the English language.

What you are doing here, of course, is promoting a logical fallacy — guilt by association — by attempting to discredit all Palin critics on the right by associating them with a few critics you dislike. Of course this is circular logic in the first place, because your reason for disliking them is primarily because of their criticism of Palin.

Perhaps you should start trying to defend Palin’s merits instead?


53 posted on 07/10/2009 12:57:49 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch
I don’t see any ‘hate’ here. Just a well reasoned argument. But of course Palin’s defenders can’t be reasoned with.

If you read her biography on Wikipedia, she wanders from campus to campus conducting "gender studies" seminars.

So much for offering "reasoned arguments"...

54 posted on 07/10/2009 12:58:31 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: dr_who

Take a breath...you’ll need it. Palin is not just a person, she is an idea. One that is lost on the sell out Republicrats.


55 posted on 07/10/2009 12:58:59 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Snickering Hound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Young

A feminist that hates Sarah Palin? I’m shocked.

Worse than just a feminist. From the wiki bio: ... gender issues and feminism ... she taught a 3-week gender issues course at Colorado College.

So Cathy's a diesel dyke, deeply depressed and confused about her own gender, patently insane, yet somehow she possesses some mysterious wisdom about what's best for conservative voters, Sarah Palin, and America overall.

56 posted on 07/10/2009 12:59:01 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: counterpunch
Palin has a lot of critics on the rightUnnamed, naturally.

You and Andrew Sullivan don't count.

The one thing the 3 you mention all have in common is a respect for the English language.

Is that why they parrot Democrat talking points?

57 posted on 07/10/2009 12:59:48 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: counterpunch
What you are doing here, of course, is promoting a logical fallacy — guilt by association — by attempting to discredit all Palin critics on the right by associating them with a few critics you dislike.

Those were the exact parties named in the Losertarian article. Try reading more slowly.

58 posted on 07/10/2009 1:01:14 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: dr_who

“Yet these same conservatives have been devout admirers of Ronald Reagan, hardly a product of the Ivy League.”

Hardly an appropriate comparison: they worked for Reagan after he’d proved himself and have become Reagan snobs (no arrows, I’m a complete Reagan fan myself).

Colonel, USAFR


59 posted on 07/10/2009 1:01:44 PM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: dr_who

It is becoming abundantly clear that the most vocal criticism of Sarah Palin is originating from the lesbians and gays of both parties, .


60 posted on 07/10/2009 1:03:12 PM PDT by meadsjn
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