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Not so HOT lanes - Local commuters are about to be taken for a ride
Washington Times ^ | July 13, 2009

Posted on 07/13/2009 6:27:35 AM PDT by La Lydia

Virginia is trying to pull a fast one on motorists who live along the Interstate 95/395 corridor, and we all will be moving slower and paying more as a result...The latest plan effectively hands ownership of Interstate 95/395 to a foreign corporation for the next 80 years. Transurban Group, Melbourne, Australia, will lease the existing high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes for the 64-mile stretch between Spotsylvania, Va., and the Pentagon. Transurban will be responsible for building new access ramps and performing maintenance for the lanes. Drivers interested in a congestion-free ride can pay an expected $1 - or more - per mile to use the HOT lanes while the regular lanes are gridlocked...

The devil is in the details...The Beltway gets new lane construction where it is needed most; 95/395 does not. Instead, between Garrisonville Road and the Pentagon, three lanes will be squeezed into the existing two-lane space...

The commuter who undertakes the 64-mile journey from Spotsylvania would pay a shocking $33,280 each year to use the toll lanes...common commutes from a town such as Dumfries would cost drivers $8,840 each year...adjusting upward for inflation...

...Only those who register for and install a special car-pool tracking device will be allowed into HOT lanes...Because it is in Transurban's interest to minimize the number of nonpaying customers, VDOT agreed to contract language that will actively discourage ride sharing on the Beltway....

...According to the Beltway contract, Virginia taxpayers are on the hook once again if, between now and 2087, improvements are made to free, non-tolled roads in the vicinity of the toll lanes. These agreements ensure that the toll-road company will enjoy a monopoly at taxpayer expense...free roads will be neglected and not expanded to create congestion that will force motorists into the tolled lanes...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: economy; highways; i95; stategovt; transportation; va2009
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To: muawiyah
Read the post for a change. He said Ashland and meant Ashland. You must be one of those people who know only Northern Virginia; anything mentioned beyond is misunderstood and is puzzling. Even when someone corrected you, you seemed to still stick with Ashburn.

My suggestion is to ride I95 down to Ashland and see a part of Virginia you know nothing about.

41 posted on 07/13/2009 7:47:52 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: mikey_hates_everything
Intriguingly it was the Democrats in Fairfax county who trashed a perfectly reasonable expressway plan. For a variety of reasons they didn't think people needed to have roads to drive to work.

That level of stupidity is still present among local Democrats in this area. I think they're mostly the dregs from New Jersey who couldn't steal enough to keep up with the neighbors.

42 posted on 07/13/2009 7:48:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dave W
Yup, talking about Northern Virginia, scanning fast, make mistake. You want to talk about Richmond, talk about Richmond, not Springfield.

I'm right here at the intersection of all these highways. Takes me under an hour to get to downtown Richmond though.

43 posted on 07/13/2009 7:49:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: La Lydia
$33,280 each year

It would be cheaper than that to fly a private airplane on that route at 3 times the speed with no drunks, cell phone drivers, or speed traps.

44 posted on 07/13/2009 7:51:45 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: muawiyah

“I think they’re mostly the dregs from New Jersey who couldn’t steal enough to keep up with the neighbors.”

Bingo! Look up Audrey Moore.


45 posted on 07/13/2009 7:54:16 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: muawiyah
"Ashburn VA is just North of Dulles airport. Take 7100 (Springfield Bypass) to the Greenway (267) ~ Takes about half an hour on Saturday morning. "

Ummm... you said... "Tales me about 35 minutes to do the Springfield to Ashland trip..."

46 posted on 07/13/2009 7:54:58 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: deport

Fast Eddie Rendell tried or is trying to do the same thing with the Pennsylvania turnpike. So far, state GOP lawmakers have stopped him cold.


47 posted on 07/13/2009 7:55:35 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: La Lydia

You can have socialism or you can have good, free, roads, but you can’t have both.


48 posted on 07/13/2009 7:56:05 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Reeses

But you’d get shot down over the Pentagon.


49 posted on 07/13/2009 7:58:03 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: muawiyah
Wow. You must drive fast to make it from Springfield to downtown Richmond in under an hour. It is about almost 100 miles from Springfield to Richmond and with the traffic on I95 from Springfield to Richmond often stop and go to Fredericksburg, you would have to be wearing a jet pack.

I make the trip 2 to 3 times a month and know you can't do it in under an hour unless it is 2 am and you are driving 90+ miles an hour.

50 posted on 07/13/2009 7:58:16 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: muawiyah

Under an hour to get from what intersection of what highways?


51 posted on 07/13/2009 7:59:15 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (piddy da foo)
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To: Married with Children
They have those stinking HOV lanes in Atlanta. They're nearly empty most of the time, as people aren't inclined to carpool nearly as much as the libtards want. They are a huge waste of taxpayer money when the other 6 lanes are clogged bumper-to-bumper and the HOV lane sits nearly empty.

What they need in Atlanta is a 6-lane I-75 bypass (3 north, 3 southbound) with NO exits within 30 miles of the city. A sizeable portion of Atlanta's traffic along I-75 is people travelling through the city, not local commuters.

52 posted on 07/13/2009 8:03:36 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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To: muawiyah

Your education about Virginia is incomplete, and hardly qualifies you “native” status. Ashland, Virginia is some 15 miles north of Richmond on interstate 95. I arrived in Virginia in 1956 and have been in every county in the state. I have only been away for two years.


53 posted on 07/13/2009 8:15:43 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: stevie_d_64; Corin Stormhands; Gopher Broke

Ping to post #36!

>Boy, you guys in Virginia are in for a real treat...Yer gonna love this...<


54 posted on 07/13/2009 8:16:07 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Dave W
Wow. You must drive fast to make it from Springfield to downtown Richmond in under an hour. It is about almost 100 miles...


55 posted on 07/13/2009 8:18:17 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: La Lydia

Dallas and Houston heeded the demand of Big Brother to build HOV lanes.

Now, most daily commuters have to drive past mostly vacant HOV lanes at minimal stop and go speed, wasting more gas.

Why? the truth is that the HOV lanes really didn’t lure people into car-pooling. Maybe the area is so large that car-pooling simply isn’t an attractive option since employers are spread out.


56 posted on 07/13/2009 8:24:14 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Alberta's Child
How many times has FreddyMac been succesfully sued for packaging non-collectable loans as legitimate debt, to cite one recent example?

Pick any other well-connected government contractor or "partner" and tell me how many times they have been successfully sued for some venture related to thst partnership or close contract relationship.

Legally, what you say may be perfectly correct. However it is also illegal to come into this country illegally and claim benefits intended for U.S. citizens. How well are those laws working out?

57 posted on 07/13/2009 8:35:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Thank goodness we here in Pennsylvania have a solid GOP majority in the state senate and are only a couple of seats short in the house. The mood here in Westmoreland County is very ugly. If the rest of the state is anything like us, we will easily win back the house in 2010.

One of our crooked RAT commissioners (who has always had an easy re-election) has announced he is retiring this year. It is now common knowlege that he signed the county to a long-term lease for expensive and unnecessary government space from a company which he owns and even the 63%-36% edge in RAT registration in this county isn't enough to save his sorry hide.

58 posted on 07/13/2009 8:42:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Pilated

One of the really disgusting elements of this is that the people of the state DID NOT approve this, nor did the General Assembly, which turned responsibility for this over to the state Department of Transportation (VDOT) (non-elected bureaucrats, non-accountable), the agency that signed on the dotted line. I don’t remember any candidate for state elected office running on a platform of turning our interstate over to a foreign entity. I can’t imagine what the bureaucrats were “thinking,” if you can call it that, because it will not relieve traffic, it will not be environmentally friendly and it will cost the taxpayers through the nose. So, who will benefit? The foreign company, and perhaps one or more people who plan to retire from VDOT and go to work for the corporation. I do not know that for a fact, but it is the most reasonable explanation I can come up with for what is happening. There has to be a skunk (or a herd of skunks) in the works somewhere, because otherwise it makes no sense.


59 posted on 07/13/2009 8:45:17 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

how many bureacrats can we fire to make up the budget shortfall?

Turning over our infrastructer WITH OUR COMMUTER DATA AVAILABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONS is just a mistake.

Ecconomic espionage is just as important is military spying.

WHERE is the national security data about employees? if a hostile government wants to track government employee X, they now have the means to do so.


60 posted on 07/13/2009 8:46:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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