Posted on 07/13/2009 9:55:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
OK. Since we have different values, I would like you to see one of my values that you obviously do not adhere to:
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Go back and reread your own post, mr. frigid. You claimed I was focusing on the negative aspects of religion when I referred to the Temple of Darwin. I think I’m going to write the creators of South Park and see if they can rework the chorus to their Joseph Smith song into a song about Charles Darwin and his evo-atheist progeny. It would be much more fitting, don’t you think?
“Galileo’s main enemies were the Aristotelian/Ptolemaic scientific establishment”
—Find any examples yet of these scientists of the “Aristotelian/Ptolemaic scientific establishment”?
“It is the Evos who leap to make the evolutionary connection, even though there are zero transitionals.”
—Maybe my imagination is lacking, but I could hardly imagine a better series of transitional fossils showing the evolution from ape-like creatures (the Australopithecines) to modern humans - and they are laid out in order in the ground. What more could one ask for? I suppose I could imagine *more* fossils, but one could always imagine *more*, and we have many thousands. If nothing we currently have counts as a transitional ape/man to you, than what - hypothetically - would suffice? What would be a perfect example of a transitional fossil?
Sure sure Gutless. You have, from the comfort of your computer, refuted the argument that is not mine but that of Dr's Meyer and Meese; Dr. Sverdlov; Dr. Gifford, Dr. Tristem; Dr's Blikstad , Benachenhou, Sperber, and Blomberg.
An argument that it is quite apparent that you don't even understand.
But I guess those guys just are not as bright as your average High School drop out who is a creationist, eh?
Must you alway project your failings on other people, dreamer? It was you who dropped out of grad school not me. And yes, those humble, high school educated Christians who have a childlike faith in God and His Word have a far better understanding of origins than all of the foolish wiseguys who worship at the Temple of Darwin put together.
Perhaps you can't follow the thread. I was responding to your lie about my position.
What are your advanced degree(s) in?
I’m not going to waste time finding what you can easily find yourself. Go to Creation.Com, click on “answers”, scroll down to Galileo, and it you will find that it is all there in black and white.
As for your imagination, it’s not lacking in the slighest because it is overactive in the extreme. There are no transitionals leading from one kind to another kind. That goes for every living kind, and every kind contained in the fossil record. There are NO TRANSITIONALS from one kind to another...but there should be, in the words of Darwin, “innumerable transitional forms...embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth...” But there is not one unanbiguous transitional leading from one kind to another that your fellow evo-religionists can point to, and yet their faith remains unshaken to this very day, after 150 years painstakingly looking form them.
I followed it just fine. The reply in which you claimed that I focus on the negative aspects of religion was linked to my reply referring to the Temple of Darwin as a religion.
But the one you replied to was the one I was replying to about your posting falsely about my position. Please don't jump around. Post to the post your reply is relevant to.
It doesn’t matter what my advanced degrees are in. The point is I didn’t puss-out and finished what I started. Snoozer should remember that whenever he thinks about throwing stones at other people from inside that little glass house of his.
I was just curious. If you have reasons for keeping it a secret, ok by me. OTOH, most reputable people have no problem talking about their past.
Sorry CW, I’m not going to chase my tail over something you did. Go back to your reply that got this all started and you will see that you comments about me supposedly focusing on the negative aspects of religion was linked to my comment equating the Temple of Darwin with evo-religion. If you can’t grasp or admit that you put your foot in it, I won’t be surprised in the slightest.
Does the Pope pretend that God didn't create everything we know or ever will know though?
And yes many Christian denominations have no problems with all sorts of things, like homosexual "marriage" and evolution and all kinds of liberal feel good nonsense.
Many voted for Obama, I even saw one woman driving down the road with pro-life on one end of her bumper and Obama on the other end.
What is your point?
So, by your graph educated people believe in evolution, the more educated the more naturally liberal someone is.
Makes sense. Indoctrination begins in kindergarten and gets worse all the way through graduate school.
But we knew that.
Because if you 'chased your tail' you would find the real truth.
Here you go with the out of context quotes again.
This is the quote you are referring to.
Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose ~ Richard Dawkins
Now if you continue reading a littler further down the page you see this passage.
What about our own bodies? Each one of us is a machine, like an airliner only much more complicated. Were we designed on a drawing board too, and were our parts assembled by a skilled engineer? The answer is no. It is a surprising answer, and we have known and understood it for only a century or so. When Charles Darwin first explained the matter, many people either wouldn’t or couldn’t grasp it. I myself flatly refused to believe Darwin’s theory when I first heard about it as a child. Almost everybody throughout history, up to the second half of the nineteenth century, has firmly believed in the opposite - the Conscious Designer theory. Many people still do, perhaps because the true, Darwinian explanation of our own existence is still, remarkably, not a routine part of the curriculum of a general education. It is certainly very widely misunderstood.
http://www.vidyaonline.net/arvindgupta/dawkinsblindwatchmaker.doc
So Dr Dawkins is plainly sating the he does believe that biological life was designed as all. It is just that the majority of people simply do not understand the “Darwinian explanation of our own existence”. These threads just go to prove that statement.
See GGG context is everything, and by not showing Dr. Dawkins quote in the correct that is misleading. This is not the first time I have pointed this out to you. If you continue to post this some people might get the impression that you are creating a deliberate falsehood, I seem the remember the 9th commandment has something to say about that.
I don't think he was trying to say you were uneducated.
Ok, for the millionth Evo-request, I served in the United States Marine Corps. I got a B.A. in Religious Studies (taught by atheists) from the Temple of Darwin indoctrination center known as UCSB. I also studied in Israel for about a year. I went on to get a Master’s in Administration, and I was a very active member of Young Americans for Freedom during my entire college career. Most of my friends were studying to be scientists or medical doctors, and I put on many debates re: creation vs. evolution, the real cause of AIDS, the evils of environmentalism, the evils of the animal rights movement, free market economics, foreign policy issues having to do with Russia, China, Vietnam, Central America, etc, etc...all funded by student government, which me and my fellow YAFers almost completely took over.
How about you, what are your advanced degrees?
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