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Man killed when car plunges into Grand Canyon
CNN ^ | July 14, 2009

Posted on 07/14/2009 9:33:55 AM PDT by rdl6989

A man died after his car plunged 600 feet off the edge of the Grand Canyon's South Rim, authorities said Tuesday. The Arizona park's regional communications center received several reports of a car driving off the edge about 6 a.m. Monday, according to a written statement.

"Upon arriving at the scene, investigators found tire tracks leading to the edge behind the Thunderbird Lodge and received reports of a single occupant in a blue passenger car driving over the edge," the statement said.

Rescue personnel descended on ropes and found the vehicle about 600 feet into the canyon. The man's body was recovered shortly afterward, the statement said.

The incident occurred near the El Tovar hotel in a village on the canyon's South Rim, park spokeswoman Shannan Marcak said.

Authorities have not ruled the death a suicide, she said. "It has not been ruled anything at this time."

The statement said the National Park Service is investigating. Typically, Marcak said, such investigations take at least a few days.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: grandcanyon; terminalvelocity
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1 posted on 07/14/2009 9:33:55 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

The only retirement plan left.


2 posted on 07/14/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: rdl6989

When I die I want to go like my Grandfather, in my sleep. Not screaming & yelling like the people in the backseat.


3 posted on 07/14/2009 9:35:28 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: rdl6989

Boy. Think about that last ride - those last seconds...


4 posted on 07/14/2009 9:36:18 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: rdl6989

Thelma and Louise.

}:-)4


5 posted on 07/14/2009 9:37:03 AM PDT by Moose4 (I took my car in for an alignment. Now my front end is chaotic evil.)
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To: rdl6989

My 6 yo son refused to go within 20 feet of the Canyon’s edge. LOL I have family photos with the rest of us standing at different points near the Canyon and one little boy standing far, far away!


6 posted on 07/14/2009 9:37:55 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: rdl6989

Grand exit?


7 posted on 07/14/2009 9:38:14 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: bill1952
Someone saw Thelma and Louise one to many times! This is clearly the fault of the movie industry and their violent movies! :-)

But it is also a good example of the fall not killing someone it was that sudden stop when he reached the bottom!
8 posted on 07/14/2009 9:39:10 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: bill1952
Boy. Think about that last ride - those last seconds...

How many seconds did he have, assuming he was going at least 40 mph?

9 posted on 07/14/2009 9:39:29 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: rdl6989

Was he being chased by a understanding cop?

10 posted on 07/14/2009 9:39:39 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: rdl6989
Area where this would have occured...

11 posted on 07/14/2009 9:40:06 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Abathar

I think that car is STILL at the bottom of the canyon as a tourist attraction .


12 posted on 07/14/2009 9:43:15 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Celerity

poor guy probably watched Thelma & Louise one too many times

laterldf


13 posted on 07/14/2009 9:43:33 AM PDT by laterldf
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To: FreepShop1

600ft at 40mph

1 mile = 5280 feet so he went .11 miles

Time = Distance ÷ Speed

.16 seconds?

How’d I do?


14 posted on 07/14/2009 9:44:14 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: FreepShop1

58.6 feet per second at 40MPH

A little over 10 seconds assuming no increase in speed during the fall...


15 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: ChocChipCookie

I would stay even farther back than that....I told wifey - who was gleefully leaning over the rail for a better look - that if she slipped, she was on her own, ‘cause I wasn’t getting any closer.


16 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:39 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Impeach now....not next month... now)
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To: ChocChipCookie

I’m with your son! I can’t even stand photos of high places...like construction workers at the top of a skyscraper looking down. Gives me the CREEPS!


17 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:51 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: MikeWUSAF

I’ve had many happy times there, especially on Super Sunday — no one’s in the park, but it’s not a holiday, so you get the Canyon to yourself sans crowds.


18 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:52 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: rdl6989

Watch out for Federally mandated parachutes, seatbelts and wraparound air bags in Obama’s next proclamation.


19 posted on 07/14/2009 9:46:15 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: MikeWUSAF
Tank of gas $60.00
Three day pass to the Grand Canyon National Park $25.00
Going out like Thelma and Louise PRICELESS!
20 posted on 07/14/2009 9:47:05 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Renegade

Really? I figured they had to fly it out of there or suffer the wrath of the environmentalist god Gia.


21 posted on 07/14/2009 9:48:53 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MikeWUSAF

What about acceleration due to gravity and the effects of drag due to wind over a solid object?


22 posted on 07/14/2009 9:50:34 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: Kartographer

Seriously.


23 posted on 07/14/2009 9:51:17 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: rdl6989
A man with gravitas no doubt....
24 posted on 07/14/2009 9:51:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Aria

No problem with heights....it’s widths I’m concerned about!

Militant


26 posted on 07/14/2009 9:52:30 AM PDT by militant2 (President George W. Bush: "No child left behind"; obama: "No child left alive!")
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To: bill1952
. . . assuming no increase in speed during the fall . . .

Bet he had his foot on the break pedal.

27 posted on 07/14/2009 9:53:01 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: 03A3

In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?


28 posted on 07/14/2009 9:54:17 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: rdl6989

Gravity. It’s not just a good idea, it’s the LAW!


29 posted on 07/14/2009 9:54:52 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I was standing at an observation rail on a platform that was overhanging the canyon a bit. I was nervous, but OK with it, until...

A busload of Japanese tourists swarmed down onto the platform. They happened to be “comfortable” with jostling.

I got the heck out of there.


30 posted on 07/14/2009 9:55:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MikeWUSAF; bill1952

Your both wrong. His downward velocity when he went over the edge was 0. He would then begin accelerating downward at a rate of 32ft per second squared.


31 posted on 07/14/2009 9:58:03 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Apparently singing Olivia Newton John's "Heartattack" is inappropriate in cardiac rehab. Who knew?)
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To: rdl6989

Well his next of kin should take legal action. /s

There was no guardrail!

Laugh, but this is the mindset on so many issues these days.


32 posted on 07/14/2009 9:59:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: MikeWUSAF

His 40 mph was just in the horizontal vector - by the way you calced it he would have hit the ground three times faster if he was driving 120 mph, and that’s just not the case


33 posted on 07/14/2009 9:59:44 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: rdl6989

It’s not the fall that’ll kill ya, it’s the sudden stop.


34 posted on 07/14/2009 10:00:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: MikeWUSAF; bill1952
How’d I do?

You fail. His initial velocity would have been horizontal, the descent is vertical. Assuming he accelerated at 32.2 ft/sec/sec in the vertical, starting with no initial vertical velocity he would go splat in squareroot( 2 x 600 / 32.2) = 6.1 seconds. In that 6.1 seconds, again assuming no horizontal acceleration he would have gone about 358 feet in the horizontal.

35 posted on 07/14/2009 10:00:45 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Yes, but a car doesn’t fall at the speed it was traveling, it falls at a speed of 32 ft per second/per second. The 40 MPH quits as soon as the wheels leave the ground and gravity takes over! However, all things considered you are probably pretty close to the mark, and in the long run it doesn’t really matter.


36 posted on 07/14/2009 10:01:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: rdl6989

It is not the fall that hurts, it is the sudden stop at the end....


37 posted on 07/14/2009 10:02:20 AM PDT by thinking
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To: TADSLOS

He falls for approximately 6.1 seconds...

His downward speed at impact is appoximately 134 mile/hour.


38 posted on 07/14/2009 10:02:36 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (I am John Galt...)
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To: FreepShop1
How many seconds did he have, assuming he was going at least 40 mph?

It doesn't matter how fast he was going sideways.

39 posted on 07/14/2009 10:03:50 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Abathar

Don't you just love movies with a happy ending?

40 posted on 07/14/2009 10:03:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rdl6989

I was just there with my family three weeks ago and stayed at the Thunderbird Lodge. Glad he waited until this week to drive over the edge. Would have ruined a perfectly nice vacation for us had this happened when we were there.......


41 posted on 07/14/2009 10:04:51 AM PDT by Adams
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To: ChocChipCookie

Your 6 yo grand son is a wise child. You’d never get me close to the edge either!


42 posted on 07/14/2009 10:05:10 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: DoughtyOne

Hmmm was their handicap access? Was there a sign post that read something like: Do not drive vehicles over the rim. Driving over the rim could cause death or serious injury. Also was there a saftey net hung so to catch any car that might go over the rim? Was the car equipment with anti gravity devices to protect occupants should they drive over the rim of a deep canyon? I think Congressional hearings should be called to answer these questions.


43 posted on 07/14/2009 10:05:56 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: rdl6989

"Not bad driving for a quadraped"
44 posted on 07/14/2009 10:06:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: calex59; Lonesome in Massachussets; Hegewisch Dupa; CougarGA7

I’m a publik skool grajuate and suck at math but hey I tried.

If you were a liberal, NEA union teacher I would still pass with an A.

;)


45 posted on 07/14/2009 10:06:48 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: DoughtyOne
There was no guardrail!

That is one of the things I like about the GC. They expect personal responsibility. Many people are shocked when they see that most places don't have railings. They are used to their safety being someone else responsibility.

I take each of my daughters on a 3 day hike to the bottom of the Canyon when they are 8 years old. I have five and the next trip is for my fourth daughter this October. I am counting the days.

46 posted on 07/14/2009 10:07:52 AM PDT by Pete
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To: MikeWUSAF

Is that the European or the African swallow??


47 posted on 07/14/2009 10:09:16 AM PDT by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

You’re not counting gravity, and that 40 mph was the horizontal vector, not vertical.

I myself won’t be counting wind resistance, launch angle and terminal velocity, but:

It will take 6.1 seconds to land, and he should land 358 feet out while going 134 miles per hour vertically.

I knew physics class would be useful somehow. :)


48 posted on 07/14/2009 10:09:43 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Kartographer

Exactly. See, I knew this had merit. ;-)


49 posted on 07/14/2009 10:10:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: MikeWUSAF

You’d get a “A” just for asking the question.


50 posted on 07/14/2009 10:10:19 AM PDT by justkate
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