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Liz Cheney Defends Birthers on Larry King
Right Pundits ^ | Tuesday, July 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm | Bryan McAffee

Posted on 07/21/2009 9:23:29 PM PDT by Red Steel

Joan Walsh at Salon has an interesting blog post lambasting Liz Cheney’s appearance on the Larry King Show tonight. She throws a fit over Cheney “defending” Birthers on Larry King’s show and acts like this is the biggest political suicide ever. For those who are not aware of what a “birther” is, this is the Conservative equivalent to the “truthers” on the left who claim they just want the truth about 9/11, but really just want to subtly blame George Bush for blowing up the Trade Center. Birther’s believe that Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States because he was actually born in Kenya or Indonesia or in Hawaii before it was a state, or any variety of conspiracies that invalidate the Obama’s eligibility to be President. They claim that since Obama never has provided a Certificate of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii, that this proves he is hiding his true birth place. Personally I don’t think that, but I do think there is something on the COB that he wants to hide, like he is Muslim or something.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; cnn; eligibility; lizcheney; obama; wolverines
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I don't think the Liz Cheney on King video is online yet.
1 posted on 07/21/2009 9:23:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

OK then Joan, what is your theory on why this “Pres_ent” fights any attempt to produce an authenticated birth certificate?


2 posted on 07/21/2009 9:24:58 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Red Steel

Joan Walsh is a nut. Back in June, she was accusing Bill O’Reilly of killing partial birth abortionist, Dr George Tiller.


3 posted on 07/21/2009 9:25:32 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Red Steel
Birther’s believe that Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States because he was actually born in Kenya or Indonesia or in Hawaii before it was a state, or any variety of conspiracies that invalidate the Obama’s eligibility to be President.

What complete bullcrap. All "birthers" want is for bambi to show his long form birth certificate. That is it. The people who are truly "nutty" are those that think it is "nutty" for bambi to have to show that he meets the constitutional requirments to be president. Those are the real nutballs, loony toones, and whackjobs.

4 posted on 07/21/2009 9:27:23 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Squash the fascist insect that preys upon the lives of the people -- FUBO!)
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To: Red Steel
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From Founding Fathers to "Who's your daddy?" in only 233 years.

5 posted on 07/21/2009 9:27:52 PM PDT by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: yongin

HEY Joan, all Zero has to do is pull out the long original birth certificate from Hawaii, and all will be well. Sounds simple enough.


6 posted on 07/21/2009 9:28:00 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Red Steel

Cheney? Hmm...Dick Cheney would be the Repub smart enough to have looked for some proof a while ago or at least I hope so.


7 posted on 07/21/2009 9:29:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Red Steel

I just watched the replay. Liz Cheney did not ‘defend’ birthers. She said it was proof that people were uncomfortable with a president that doesn’t seem interested in defending America. She hit a home run and google eye about had a cow...lol. The look in Liz’s eye was steely though....like she knows something. Obama and his media goons are trying to Alinsky this whole thing. They are getting scared folks.


8 posted on 07/21/2009 9:32:26 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

When that portion of the interview gets on line I want to see it!


9 posted on 07/21/2009 9:33:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Red Steel

Liz ate Carville’s lunch! In fact, Carville was laughing...not his usual angry look. Liz wouldn’t let James talk...she talked over him, interrupted him and I loved it because she acted like the Dems who won’t let Repubs talk.


10 posted on 07/21/2009 9:35:21 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Red Steel

I love how Liz Cheney playfully kept the storyline going. Personally I don’t believe this story b/c there doesn’t seem to be any proof that Ann Dunham went to Africa. But if they can pin “I can see Russia from my house” on SP, we can put this on 0bama.


11 posted on 07/21/2009 9:36:05 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Stand Up America - Biden '09 (At least he was born here))
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To: Red Steel

I think it is stupid to call us birthers. I think people who think that are unamerican.


12 posted on 07/21/2009 9:36:14 PM PDT by Brimack34 (I hate people that hate Palin)
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To: Red Steel

Just saw it. Liz is really good. Im not a big fan of the whole birther thing. It just doesnt get me all rowled up like other things. This health bill is giving me pains at night. I think this sudden interest in the birthers by the MSM is a ploy somehow. Palin? Lets talk about how crazy the Republicans are not how Obama is ruining our country... Im telling you the more I think about it the more I think it is a distraction. Reporters are now asking about the birth certificate and not talking Heath Care. Be Careful


14 posted on 07/21/2009 9:37:04 PM PDT by GoCards (Behind Sarah 100%)
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To: Red Steel

Let’s play where Barack was actually born in Hawaii. What if he’s hiding his long form because his father isn’t his dad but someone else or unknown. Would that be embarrassing enough for him to hide it? Don’t think so. Is religion listed on a BC from Hawaii? Some States do, but others don’t.

Either way he’s hiding something and we want to see it.


15 posted on 07/21/2009 9:38:28 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: MHGinTN

James Carville was throwing out barbs all over the place..but not one ounce of proof. They have no proof..but the one thing the media will not do is tell people what the argument is really about. Not one MSM outlet has allowed both sides of the story to be told on air. Everyone of them start the story with the dem lies regarding Obama’s BC and then never allow the other side to debunk it.

WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF???


16 posted on 07/21/2009 9:38:38 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Red Steel

Interesting how now (FINALLY) this issue has made the leap into the national paradigm.

Would have been nice had it happend in October.

Yet tho contacted by countless individuals, 99% of the media, conservative radio & TV, and the Pravda media absolutely refused to address the Birth Certificate issue... :(


17 posted on 07/21/2009 9:42:26 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Red Steel
The difference being that George W. Bush could never prove the "truther's" wrong. It's essentially impossible to prove that you did not do something. That's why we are innocent until proven guilty. However it would be trival for Barrack H. Obama to prove that he was born in Hawaii, although that would not quite get him, with his foreign citizen/temporary resident, father, off the hook. OTOH, if the birth certificate could be produced, which it could by a court order, and it shows that he was not born in the US, case closed. This is a document *known* to exist, at least according Chiyome Fukino, M.D., the head of Hawaii's Department of Health, and her subordinate, Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D Registrar of Vital Statistics. Dr. Fukino states in the released statement linked above:

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

18 posted on 07/21/2009 9:44:45 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: bushwon
Interesting how now (FINALLY) this issue has made the leap into the national paradigm.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's “leaping” because it is soon to “leap” in a Marine’s, Judge Carter, court room!

The Marxists are rightfully scared.

21 posted on 07/21/2009 9:48:43 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

oh I thot since the deployment was dropped, there would be no court case—thot that was the reason for the cancellation of the orders.

As I said, too bad this did not come out months ago :( Even Rush wouldn’t cover this in the summer last year. Now he is bringing it up daily.


22 posted on 07/21/2009 9:52:55 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: penelopesire

Barky’s hiding something for sure. I remember his surprising visit to hawaii before an important primary to see his soon-to-pass grandmother(?) He spent more time with the gov., probably to get help in burying his records.

Liz is right...he doesn’t act like a US citizen. If we find he’s the Manchurian candidate I will not be surprised. Isn’t it obvious?


23 posted on 07/21/2009 9:53:51 PM PDT by chiller (almost speechless)
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To: chiller

It was a rhetorical question. Of course it is obvious that Obama is hiding something major. Not sure what it is, but you don’t put out forged/fraudulent documents and spend over a million dollars hiding a 14.00 BC for nothing.


24 posted on 07/21/2009 9:57:54 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Red Steel

A redacted birth certificate missing a watermark, produced on a Windows PC and printed on a Laser printer in the year 2008 is a forged document, and therefore deemed a fraud like Barack Hussein Obama.


25 posted on 07/21/2009 10:00:29 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: F15Eagle

Yep. The fact that the press seems so frantic to protect him with these silly articles and ‘interviews’ is pretty telling too. The press in this country will come crashing down with Obama if he is a fraud and usurper.

The press is actually making Obama look even more guilty by not reporting the story fairly. They are in panic mode.


26 posted on 07/21/2009 10:00:38 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Domandred
Either way he’s hiding something and we want to see it.

I know, I know!

He is hiding his transparency!

Where's the Docs, Beeyo?

27 posted on 07/21/2009 10:04:25 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Red Steel

I am proud to be a Birther....


28 posted on 07/21/2009 10:05:33 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Domandred

Why has he changed his hospital of birth? I have an idea about that....pure speculation though.


29 posted on 07/21/2009 10:08:35 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: chiller
I remember his surprising visit to hawaii before an important primary to see his soon-to-pass grandmother(?)

He didn't go to see 'Toot" off until Philip Berg went to HI to look for the BC.

At that time the story was that "Toot" was recovering from a hip operation, then she cashed in her chips allegedly from cancer.

Why would she have gotten a hip implant if she was on the verge of checking out from cancer?

I dunno, but she died just in the nick of time to collect Beeyo some sympathy vote.

30 posted on 07/21/2009 10:09:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Red Steel

I can’t understand this attemped parallel between “birthers” and “Troothers.” If an answer (effortless, costless, easy and for most normal people even joyful) is kept hidden in a tightly sealed envelope, then wanting to see what’s in that envelope because of a Constitutional issue unique to the POTUS and Vice POTUS, is not, nor could ever be conspiracy minded. Most people would be satisfied were Obama to release it and everything was on the up and up, not satisfied with Obama’s policies, but satisfied that he’s constitutionally entitled to hold the job. The issue would die immediately. Then those who insisted might be qualified as conspiracy freaks.

It is the sheer effortlessness of reaching a settlement vis-a-vis Obama’s dogged refusal that keeps this thing going. Nobody in his right mind would want to fuss with expensive lawyers over something as easy as a birth certificate. It’s the Constitution that makes a demand that the President be USA born and that demand is unique to the POTUS. I’ll grant you that such a demand can be logically criticized - but so too can almost all laws.

The CONSUTUTION demands it!!! That means it needs to be answered clearly and conclusively, simply and good-naturedly, with no fuss, no lawyers, no need for debate or plunges into metaphysics.

The so-called birthers are not at all similar to the Troothers. They’d be similar once Obama showed the original long form and everything was Okay, but they CONTINUED to doubt - though at this point, even that would be more reasonable than the troothers. Conspiracy theorists can go on infinitely (that’s the nature of the beast), but this one could be laid to rest pretty easily.

If the need to show an original long form is considered harassment, then something stinks to high heaven.


31 posted on 07/21/2009 10:09:54 PM PDT by Youaskedforit
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To: Domandred
Is religion listed on a BC from Hawaii?

Not on the version used in the early 1960s.

Here's one from 1963, actually a scan of a certified copy of a 1963 Certificate made much later.


32 posted on 07/21/2009 10:10:16 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: shield
Why has he changed his hospital of birth?

Some slob must have put the wrong one on the new, improved BC forgery...

33 posted on 07/21/2009 10:10:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: LucyT

Ping!


34 posted on 07/21/2009 10:13:19 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: bushwon

The Marine, Judge Carter, is in California.

You are thinking of the case in Ga. That was last week.


35 posted on 07/21/2009 10:14:41 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Red Steel

Everyone who keeps chanting “Where’s the birth certificate?” is going to be sorely disappointed when Obama whips out a perfect forgery and shuts down this controversy. This media attention is a setup.

You need to be talking about the COLB forgery and his British citizenship at birth in addition to the long-form birth certificate. Otherwise, you’ll get exactly what you asked for - proof that he was born in Hawaii.

Then what?


36 posted on 07/21/2009 10:39:28 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
“Pres_ent”

My personal preference is "Precedent", although I am warming up to "Resident".

They all work, and communicate what we think about the Obama.

37 posted on 07/21/2009 10:42:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Youaskedforit

Exactly!


38 posted on 07/21/2009 10:44:06 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Red Steel

What if what he is hiding is that his father isn’t african but arab? His whole claim to fame is that he is black - but we know he isn’t. He isn’t even 1/2 black. He is more Arab than black and maybe they thought it would be too politically damaging to lose his mask.


39 posted on 07/21/2009 10:47:19 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Everyone who keeps chanting “Where’s the birth certificate?” is going to be sorely disappointed when Obama whips out a perfect forgery and shuts down this controversy.

Team Obama would have done that long ago, if it were possible, but it's not, and I'll tell ya why.

Creating a paper forgery of a long form bc that could fool even expert document examiners isn't the problem.

The problem is in fabricating the identities of the attending physician and any other signatories and witnesses to Obama's birth.

The forgers would have to insert the names and signatures of people on those documents, whose entire life histories would have to precisely intersect with the moment of Obama's birth in a Hawaiian hospital in 1961.

All of that information would have to withstand the closest scrutiny and investigation, which of course, it couldn't, ergo, no forged bc. He can't produce a forged long form bc because he can't falsify the requisite identities to back it up.

40 posted on 07/21/2009 10:57:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: All
One individual has been out there in the trenches 24/7 hitting Obama on multiple fronts and has almost single handedly brought Obama's inelgibility to U.S and world wide attention. Image and video hosting by TinyPic This brave little Russian refugee lady has put her life on hold- and in danger to try to save YOUR country. She flies all over the U.S. serving papers, giving speeches, meeting with various officials and giving interviews. This involves great expense, and it is reported that Dr. Orly is over $8,000 in debt from using her own funds in her fight to prove Obama's ineligibility. She needs researchers, lawyers and other volunteers. Please do what you can to help her. Help her keep the presure on Obama. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ Dr. Orly has added renouned attorney, Stephen Pidgeon as her assistant: http://stephenpidgeon.com/ http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2816 .
41 posted on 07/21/2009 10:57:57 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Lou Budvis
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

In July 2009 a Ghanian newspapersays of Obama that ""For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth," The American Thinker explains here why Obama's short form released by fightthesmears is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record.
42 posted on 07/21/2009 10:59:20 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: patriot08

Dr. Orly’s website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Dr. Orly has added renouned attorney, Stephen Pidgeon as her assistant:

http://stephenpidgeon.com/
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2816


43 posted on 07/21/2009 10:59:52 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: GoCards
Rather than viewing the reaction to the birther movement as a distraction consider it as thermometer which measures the degree of dissatisfaction among the electorate and, not insignificantly, measures the unease among the media in their uncritical support of Obama.

The greater the dissatisfaction (read fear) in the electorate, the more open they are to the issue. The more the media reports on the birth certificate issue, the more willing they are to challenge the infallibility of Obama which heretofore they had put off-limits.

The first line of defense by the left and the leftist media against the birther movement has been to ignore them to death in the media, defeat them in the courts, and belittle them into irrelevancy. Sounds like Bill Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky affair. This line of defense is being breached. Fewer and fewer people who were victims of the Obama pathology are willing to leave unanswered one simple question:

Where is the birth certificate?


44 posted on 07/21/2009 11:17:18 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

I am seeing that as well. A football game reference is a political measure as to whether you have the ball. The fact that they are playing defense clearly defines they do not.


45 posted on 07/21/2009 11:28:06 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: nathanbedford

Good post Nathan.


46 posted on 07/21/2009 11:28:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: scott7278

Bookmarked.


47 posted on 07/21/2009 11:32:52 PM PDT by scott7278 (Obama, Klaatu barada nikto!)
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To: nathanbedford
The first line of defense by the left and the leftist media against the birther movement has been to ignore them to death in the media, defeat them in the courts, and belittle them into irrelevancy...

Arthur Schopenhauer predicted all this:

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

48 posted on 07/21/2009 11:44:07 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Slings and Arrows; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
Thank you, Slings and Arrows. Good news.

Liz Cheney Defends Birthers on Larry King

49 posted on 07/21/2009 11:45:46 PM PDT by LucyT (.................... Tagline for Rent.)
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To: yongin
Yep, if the woman thinks you are nuts that is a compliment.

Seems this COB issue is starting to gather steam and is rolling downhill.

50 posted on 07/21/2009 11:46:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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