Posted on 07/22/2009 3:24:38 PM PDT by kristinn
....and, who is going to get this proposed “savings?” Additional taxes on individuals and more folks added to the federal and state healthcare rosters does not add up to savings. I think we should call a pig when it is a pig. This is simply a plan for healthcare service rationing.
re: people writing him daily/the people want this
Ditto.
Was it all 52% of Obama voting citizens in this country who wrote these letters?
Sob stories from illegals, his Soros/DNC/Pravda/blog tentacles/paid ACORN/SEIU cronies, those who wanted more paid for abortions and other irresponsibles don’t concern me.
P.S. Can you tell i’m reading this thread catching up?
Shock, Inside the Healthcare Bill
via Economic Policy Journal
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you’ll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
Here’s the full Health Care bill that sits in the House:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
FYI, also go to Doug’s site:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/
***What have we learned/How do we kill it files
Sweetness and Light gives us a Flashback re: Hillarycare Timeline and Debate
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/flashback-the-healthcare-debate-of-1994
Let’s look around at the problems of socialized healthcare.
I know everything is about race. This presidency is setting race relations back 30 years.
There are six things the Lord hates, seven are detestable to him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissention among brothers.
Proverbs 6:16-19 NIV
Let those with eyes see and ears hear what the spirit is saying to the people.
I thought I heard it all from this marxist nut, but now he is inside the mind of a doctor?
He said “The doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, ‘You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out,”
Maybe if he would listen to doctors, they would explain that health care in the United States is badly in need of Tort Reform. Lawsuits raise the cost of health care for everyone because of the increased fees doctors have to pay to insure against lawsuits. Cap the lawsuits and watch health care costs go down.
Maybe, brilliant Obama, the doctor is concerned that if the situation gets worse, the family will blame him and so he does every procedure to be sure. Have you ever had several tests done before a diagnosis? Maybe some you felt were unnecessary?
When our 14 year old daughter went to the ER with unbearable pain, the diagnosis of a ruptured ovarian cyst came after the pregnancy test that we assured them was unnecessary. We were told it is a liability issue.
Ask any doctor, and you will be told Tort Reform is necessary.
Agreed. The reporters today are like mindless robots. You are probably right about pregnancy. Obama will probably do it like they do in China. Forced abortions. He's one evil dude!
Btw, I love your nickname. LOL
Well done, where were you when I was in school, I could have used a friend like you. lol.
What else can he do?
But even now that is only working with the really die hards. Most people aren’t believing it anymore.
>He didn’t inherit the deficit, he VOTED FOR IT.<
CAN I PLEASE have permission to steal this for a tagline?
It is just too good to let go in one post.
>“He’s reading WAY TOO FAST...it’s all just running together into ONE BIG LONG RUNONSENTENCE that NOBODY can hear or understand’
He sounds like the speed up clips that Rush has been playing...ROTFLOL!!<
I didn’t watch it, i refused. But that is generally an indication of great nervousness. Very uncharacteristic of him.
He is probably getting angry that people aren’t falling all over him and hovering on his every word.
>He’s always mad that his Momma was a white woman!<
sorry i din’t watch. did he make some statement about her in a racist way *again*???
>I AM THE PRESIDENT AND THIS HAS TO GET DONE!<
did he really make that statement?
tell me he did ...
I didn’t watch the All obama all day show .. so I was running through reading FReeper comments to figure out what happened and I ran across this as i was fuming:
>I just want one question to be.........
Will I need my birth certificate, to sign up for your health program.
I think his head would explode.<
I have tears streaming down my face and have to go now.
Best laugh I have had in months.
Thank you
(my sides hurt from laughing .. damn it all!!!!)
>EVERY time I listen to him speak I get glassy-eyed...he goes in circles and speaks nonsense..<
CAREFUL!
As a fellow conservative I have to warn you .. this is how it happens to most people ...
PUT DOWN THE KOOL-AID AND BACK AWAY SLOW!
You take the blue pill with some cherry kool-aid and the red pill with some blueberry kool-aid ...
make sure you don’t screw up the dosage ..
>He knows about red pills and blue pills and green pills and white pills and ....<
.. because he was a pharmacologist in college himself
>When I came in we had $1.3 trillion deficit WE INHERITED.<
so in his screwed up mind, he had to beat bushes record by what 11 more trillion in a few months?????
>So terminally ill patients will get what?
Free cremation?<
Lots of us are going to get free cremation ... Nazi style if he gets his way.
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