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GOP Politicians Pandering to Birthers
Little Green Footballs ^ | July 22, 2009 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 07/22/2009 4:49:16 PM PDT by EveningStar

The insane conspiracy theory called the “Birther movement” is gaining support among Republican politicians. Now there’s actually a bill sponsored by Republicans that panders to these nuts. I hate it when I agree with Chris Matthews, but he’s right on this issue — this madness is embarrassing, self-destructive, and above all mind-bogglingly schtoopid.

And it’s spreading.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrismatthews; johncampbell; lgf; littlegreenfootballs; nirthers; upyourschuck
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In the video, it looks like Congressman Campbell has a spastic colon.

Also, take a look at the LGF reader comments.

I agree with Charles here.

1 posted on 07/22/2009 4:49:16 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

What is a Nirther? ;)


2 posted on 07/22/2009 4:50:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Nirther = Birther


3 posted on 07/22/2009 4:51:59 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Charles is calling names first. Wonder if he’s seen his “long form” ~ find out who his father really is ~ that’s for Charles. We know who Obama’s father was ~ guy with a job or a future ~ girl wasn’t so stupid she’d set up shop with just any third-worlder.


4 posted on 07/22/2009 4:52:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OneWingedShark

Amen to Charles on this. Stop the insanity. Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this. Looks ridiculous for conservatives.


5 posted on 07/22/2009 4:52:22 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: EveningStar

Charles has his head up his butt.


6 posted on 07/22/2009 4:52:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: EveningStar

LGF is now LRF, Little Red footballs.

Useless left-wing bullshit site.


7 posted on 07/22/2009 4:54:01 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: EveningStar

One of N reasons (where N is a large number) why I long ago took LGF off my bookmark list.

If he’s right, I guess that the Loon just likes to spend millions in order to protect his privacy.

Riiiiiiiight!


8 posted on 07/22/2009 4:54:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: EveningStar
Well then all Obami has to do is produce the Long Form, and this whole thing will be put to rest. Rather than argue about where he was born, we should be pushing the question of why Obami has not released the document. Make THEM explain things to US. Put THEM on the defensive.
9 posted on 07/22/2009 4:54:12 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: EveningStar
This comment on LGF hit it out of the park.

"I swear, if it ain't IDers, YECers, troofers, it's nirthers on the right. Where in hell did all the idiots come from? It's bad enough the msm is in the tank for the one, but of course they're gonna give brain dead fools like this all the air time they want to spout their nonsense for the country to see."

10 posted on 07/22/2009 4:55:08 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: EveningStar

After over a dozen lawsuits, you would think he would just show his birth certificate and be done with it....I cannot think a good reason why Obama would not show his birth certificate unless he is hiding something significant.
The 2 most prominent theories seem to be:

1) Is not a natural born citizen...was really born in Kenya or ?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2114302/posts

2) Real father is Frank Marshall Davis? Communist pedophile.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2113086/posts

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=frank+marshall+davis+is+Obama%27s+real+father+Ann

theory is all over the net.

http://www.hawaii.edu/uhwo/clear/HonoluluRecord1/Frankvideo.html

agreed ears, nose, mouth, forehead, teeth, cheeks, resemblance is there...harder to find with Kenyans
pulls a lot of pieces together, why Obama will not produce his birth certificate in court, why his grandparents encouraged him to spend so much time with Frank reading poetry?

“One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne....”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

In Obama’s own book, Dreams From My Father. He writes about “a poet named Frank,” who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of “hard-earned knowledge” and advice.

it is really strange that after over a dozen lawsuits that he wouldn’t just show the birth certificate and be done with it all.....unless...


11 posted on 07/22/2009 4:55:09 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: EveningStar

Nice try but its easy to see your a lib who is trying to throw some off the scent.
Unless you have seen a copy of his birth certificate and can post it to the site please dont speak for everyone else in the country that hasnt. Move aside you have posted 30 or more posts about this one subject you clearly have an agenda if you were a true republican freeper you would be outraged by the power grab of this government not trying to put out a fire that Obama has set.


12 posted on 07/22/2009 4:55:45 PM PDT by Three if by government
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To: EveningStar

I thought Little Green Footballs was a conservative blog. Obviously, I thought wrong.

Chairman Zero needs to produce his long form BC. If he has one, he could do that for $12 and make all this go away. Obviously he is hiding something, so the controversy (as it should) rages and grows.

Read my tagline. We have now entered phase 3. Phase 4, victory is next, which means the ineligible weasel will eventually be removed from office.


13 posted on 07/22/2009 4:55:47 PM PDT by webschooner (“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandh)
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To: SideoutFred

So, just to be clear, you are saying that someone who believes in biblical Christianity is an idiot?


14 posted on 07/22/2009 4:57:21 PM PDT by Pete
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To: Da Coyote

Uhm, isn’t this one of the reasons Palin quit? Because of all the crazy lawsuits and accusations? She was attacked by nutjobs on the left and had to spend a ton of money to defend herself. B.O. has to do the same thing with this.

It’s silly. All this does is paint the right as nutjobs and the media will carry that water 24/7 to do that in an effort to help their liberal causes.

Here we have the Democrats completely stepping on themselves, imploding everywhere and the best the GOP has to come up with is a birth certificate argument? Wow, looks like 2010 and 2012 will continue the nightmare of total inept leadership on the right which allows equally inept (and dangerous) leadership on the left to continue on their way.


15 posted on 07/22/2009 4:58:15 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: OneWingedShark
Definition of nirther
16 posted on 07/22/2009 4:58:22 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Charles is full of crap on this issue. The legal requirement is clear and in the constitution. The birthers are right. Ridicule won’t sway a person if he can read and understand what a fraud this bozo is. The opposition turns to ridicule because they have no reasonable response to the arguments of the birthers.


17 posted on 07/22/2009 4:58:56 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: FreedomProtector

Prominent theories? Maybe. But if one thinks about the whole ball of wax, he cannot post the actual BC if it is in Hawaiian vaults because he would immediately be open to document fraud charges.


18 posted on 07/22/2009 4:59:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Pete

Pete

Hmm, I don’t understand why you are saying “just to be clear” because I never said one thing ever about Christianity. Is that a straw man attempt to say that because it’s faith based and can’t be proven, it’s a form of idiocy? I’m not sure what you mean so please explain.

For the record, 17 years of Catholic school....of course one might argue that messed me up. :) I’m a Christian and believe in God, what that has to do with a birth certificate I’m not sure.


19 posted on 07/22/2009 5:01:11 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: EveningStar

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you and then you win.


20 posted on 07/22/2009 5:02:23 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: EveningStar
Can't remember where I saw it, but some commenter or analyst I read said that Obama is probably enjoying this drama and is deliberately protracting it. At the moment when the birthers have reached the apex of their noise, Obama will calmly pull the document from his pocket and blandly ask, "Is this what you were looking for?"

Thus making complete fools of all Republicans and conservatives, because the entire party and movement will be blamed for it.

I believe I read that posted by a FReeper today.

21 posted on 07/22/2009 5:03:56 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: SideoutFred; EveningStar

>> if it ain’t IDers, YECers, troofers, it’s nirthers on the right

There’s a major difference between the “birthers” and the “truthers” that Johnson is obscuring by pretending equivalence between them. If you don’t see this and demand, for the sake of argument, that I spell it out, I will. But it should be obvious to anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty.

Mind you, there was a time that I thought this whole thing was a distraction, too. Now, I’m kind of wondering about it myself, and perfectly willing to let it play out.

Methinks Johnson, like Obama, doth protest a bit too much.

If the “birthers” have nothing, then simply ignore them. Why all the fuss?


22 posted on 07/22/2009 5:05:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: SideoutFred

Should be pretty easy to shut all the ‘nirthers’ up, shouldn’t it? All they want to see is the birth certificate.

Produce it and they all go away. Hide it and they gain credibility.

Why would Obama want to give credence to what is so *OBVIOUSLY* a joke?

Hmmmm....


23 posted on 07/22/2009 5:08:10 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yeah, what happened to LGF? They used to be a decent site for getting the stories about unrest in the Middle East and had some good humor in the posted responses.

I forgot my password for LGF and they dropped off my radar for a while, then I asked them to email it to me, logged on and didn’t even recognize what I was reading. Very disappointing.

Regarding a different reply above, it’s not up to the birthers to prove he was born outside the U.S. It’s up to Zero to prove he’s eligible.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 5:09:59 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: gogogodzilla

He’s not giving credence to it, that’s the whole point. And why would he want to shut the “nirthers” up when the media is doing such a great job of painting them as conservatives and then linking them as whack jobs ..... which in turn paints all conservatives in the same light.

It’s the same reason why the media portrays conservatives as religious zealots. The media is extremely willing to paint conservatives in any bad light they can, all this movement by the birthers does is give them ammunition in my opinion.

Again, I hope I’m wrong but at the end of the day, B.O. would be silly as hell to produce a birth certificate. It’s up to the birthers to prove he wasn’t born in the USA, not the other way around. I say that because public opinion will not change on this.

Now, if this was a GOP president and the shoe was on the other foot, yeah the media would beat that drum every day to show the birth certificate, but not with their guy in the White House. It’s just not going to happen.


25 posted on 07/22/2009 5:13:59 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Nervous Tick

Seems to me the administration is ignoring them...the fuss is coming from Rush, Dobbs, and a handful of people that are wishing upon a star without anything but a rumor.

B.O. is smart to let these people paint themselves into a corner and take down the rest of us conseratives in the process, especially at a time when B.O. and his party are sucking on the tailpipe and can’t get anything right.


26 posted on 07/22/2009 5:16:13 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: SideoutFred
==This comment on LGF hit it out of the park.

It's funny how RINO Temple of Darwin drones are always accusing the other side of what they themselves are guilty of. It is clear that LGF and all their supporters have sacrificed their collective brains to the evo cult.

PS If your brain is in there somewhere, may I suggest you retrieve it before they clean them out to make room for the next batch of Charlie's chumps who have lined up to make the ultimate sacrifice to the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism:


27 posted on 07/22/2009 5:17:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SideoutFred

You are completely out of touch and need to get up to speed on the issue and its ramifications before you spout left-wing propaganda on this subject. Pay attention and look at what this usurper is doing to the constitution and the country.


28 posted on 07/22/2009 5:17:25 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: SideoutFred

Uh, the Constitution says the president has to be a natural born citizen.

O keeps fudging where he was born.

O wont produce an actual birth certificate.

We are under no obligation to just take his word for it.

He can make it go away. He wont. Too bad for him.


29 posted on 07/22/2009 5:20:02 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: SideoutFred
Either prove he isn’t from Hawaii or drop this. Looks ridiculous for conservatives.

I'm not what you would call a "rabid birther".....

.....But why is it rediculous to want Obama to reveal a truth he is hiding, citizen or not?

The law is the law. If he doesn't measure up, we have a right to know.

In truth, the burden of proof is on him, not the people asking questions.

30 posted on 07/22/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: SideoutFred

Rush isn’t involved in this whole BC issue. Focus on obama’s unconstitutional policies, not the person.


31 posted on 07/22/2009 5:21:02 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: EveningStar

Wow. I’ve often heard about this Chris Matthews person on this forum but that was the first time I’ve ever heard his voice or seen him talk. I wish I hadn’t. Man that guy is a major league butthole and I am sure I would have to hit him if I were face to face with him.

This is why I quit watching television so long ago.


32 posted on 07/22/2009 5:21:24 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: EveningStar

Let’s assume for a moment that there really is no long-form BC. (Which would explain much of Obama’s behavior and relatively undocumented past)...How long would it take, to manufacture a “good” fake?

I mean, the paper would have to be right, the ink, dates, signatures, borders, fonts, verbiage, and overall appearance of a document that’d be what...almost 50 years old? Difficult, but not impossible.

The other consideration as previously mentioned...could be the BC would contradict OTHER..(e.g. college applications, retirement applications, bar applications, passports, etc.) documents that have been sealed from prying eyes.

Speculation? Yes. Easily solved? Yes, IF and only IF ALL of Obama’s aforementioned documents are...congruent with his BC.

I believe however, they are not.


33 posted on 07/22/2009 5:21:30 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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To: SideoutFred
She was attacked by nutjobs on the left and had to spend a ton of money to defend herself. B.O. has to do the same thing with this.

No, BO only has to spend $12 and all of this will instantly come to a stop.

34 posted on 07/22/2009 5:22:36 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Da Coyote

I quit going to LGF as well — now I understand why they were irritating me. Love all these people that defend ZERO but not one of them has seen the long form birth certificate that is commenting.


35 posted on 07/22/2009 5:22:59 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: SideoutFred
Why should I have to prove he isn't from Hawaii? He should have to prove that he was born in Hawaii. so far, he has not done that. He has stated that he was born in Hawaii. He has shown a photo shopped phony birth certificate. He sent his Chief of Staff to Kenya to clean up the problem over there. Why wont he release his record?

Do you have, or seen, any proof that he was born anywhere is the U.S.?

Without that proof, how can you call it insanity or ridiculous?

I am sane, rational, well educated, and responsible. I take umbrage at people who do not have any information on the subject telling me that it is somehow irresponsible to ask for proof of citizenship. The longer this goes on, the more they try to sidestep the issue, the more push back by sycophants without any proof, the more I want to know why. It looks ridiculous for conservative and anyone else to continue to run from this issue until it is resolved.

36 posted on 07/22/2009 5:23:21 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Krodg
Can't remember where I saw it, but some commenter or analyst I read said that Obama is probably enjoying this drama and is deliberately protracting it. At the moment when the birthers have reached the apex of their noise, Obama will calmly pull the document from his pocket and blandly ask, "Is this what you were looking for?"

"Birthers" wouldn't be Birthers if it were that easy. All the evidence so far indicates he wouldn't be able to product a birth citificate with proof that he is a natural born citizen of the USA and that he has never renounced his US citizenship

37 posted on 07/22/2009 5:24:47 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: SideoutFred
You said, "Palin was attacked by nutjobs on the left and had to spend a ton of money to defend herself. B.O. has to do the same thing with this."

That's the biggest crock of $hit I've ever heard. All Obama has to do is produce a $12 long form birth certificate. He's the one spending millions of dollars to fight having to release it. You need to remove your head from your orifice.

38 posted on 07/22/2009 5:25:22 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: SideoutFred

>> B.O. is smart to let these people paint themselves into a corner and take down the rest of us conseratives in the process, especially at a time when B.O. and his party are sucking on the tailpipe and can’t get anything right.

With all due respect, I don’t see that as a problem except in the fever swamps of some folks’ minds. I simply don’t see the COLB issue “taking down the rest of the conservatives”. In fact, I don’t see it as anything more than an entertaining (for the right) and distracting (for the left) side show — except among two grous: a) A FEW in the MSM that are grasping to use the “birthers” as a diversion, and b) SOME here on FR that for some reason have a burr under their saddle over it.

Everywhere else I look (including here on FR), I see that the MAJOR focus is on a) the healthcare debacle and b) the failed stimulus. Right where it should be.

I totally fail to see the problem with opening a second front against the Bambi-ster. The sorry rat crap SOB needs to be brought down, and I’m not particular about the technique as long as it gets results.


39 posted on 07/22/2009 5:25:45 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: EveningStar

Why do you post such crap?


40 posted on 07/22/2009 5:28:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: SteamShovel

Because you can’t win this thing, that’s why.

B.O. has already produced a document, yet the birthers say it isn’t good enough. If he were to produce another document, you would say the same thing. He can’t win in this arrangement so he’s better off doing absolutely nothing and forcing the birthers to prove him wrong.

He’s smart playing it the way he is. He’s the POTUS, he’s been sworn in, he was on every ballot, he was certified by every Sec of State. As far as I’m concerned, because of all that, the burden of proof is absolutely NOT on him just because a small group of people want to see another document on top of the one that was ALREADY presented and ALREADY declared by Hawaii (led by a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR) as legit.

This can only end badly for conservatives IMO unless there is indisputable proof that the birthers come up with. Otherwise, he’s just going to sit back and laugh at the right, all while the media helps him in the process.

The only way I would think differently is if you get a massive majority to demand to see some documentation, but right now that number is like 10% of the country so it screams lunatic fringe. It’s Vince Foster all over again which made us look stupid. It’s the 911 idiots from the left that made them look so stupid.

In order for this to work, you would have us believe that B.O. bought off the state of Hawaii, including the GOP Governor, the hospital he was born in, and also had to buy off wherever else he was actually born along with all the other people around. He would have to have bought off the schools he attended when a birth certificate was required at those schools, he would have to buy off the DMV for his Driver’s license, he would have to buy off every other place that requires it.

My goodness, with my kids, I have to bring a birth certificate even for them to play Little League.

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see that vast of a conspiracy happening that could pull it off. I just don’t. Not only that, the guy is stepping in his own feces daily right now so why are we throwing him a lifeline of stupidity and taking this guy’s ridiculous policies off the front pages?


41 posted on 07/22/2009 5:28:37 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Da Coyote

“...the Loon just likes to spend millions in order to protect his privacy...”

He’s investing the million or so $ in ‘shovel ready’ jobs ;)


43 posted on 07/22/2009 5:30:11 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: EveningStar

Forget the BC. I want to know if his passport or college certifications list him as a citizen of another country. A POTUS cannot have duel citizenship.


44 posted on 07/22/2009 5:30:23 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: Two Kids' Dad
"what happened to LGF?"

I used to be a member there too, but I since CJ started riding his bike without a seat, I can't stand the place anymore.

I hate the way he trashes Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch) also.

45 posted on 07/22/2009 5:30:46 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: dirtymac

Yes, the proof I have is that he produced a document from the State of Hawaii...part of the United States of America...that says he was born in the United States. Until someone presents proof that disproves this, that’s what I’m going on.

In the meantime, we look idiotic on this. Just my opinion, but I need a HELLUVA a lot more evidence from the birthers to convince me on this.

Again, I keep asking, why didn’t Hillary blow him out of the water with this? Why didn’t McCain and Palin? At the end, they knew they were going to lose, why not throw the hail mary pass?


46 posted on 07/22/2009 5:31:47 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: pissant

I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out why
people on our side denigrate and vehemently condemn
us “birthers”.
The only clue that I have is that many are scared to
death that massive and deadly race riots will breakout
all over the country if Obozo is forced from office.

Is this the reason?


47 posted on 07/22/2009 5:32:35 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AlexW

Maybe some. Others are just doing it because the believe Obama and don’t mind being a prick to those who don’t. Michael Medved comes to mind.


48 posted on 07/22/2009 5:33:47 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: EveningStar

Do you think Obama’s refusal to provide proof of his birth is honorable or practical? He’s either being dishonorable or impractical. Which is it?


49 posted on 07/22/2009 5:34:19 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: EveningStar
One other point which is not usually brought up is the military. So far, we've had one incident of an officer ‘refusing’ his deployment because of this issue. They canceled his orders, thus punting the issue down the road. I had heard somewhere that there are now something like 140 other military personnel that are going to be getting on-board with Oriz (sp) about this. Right or wrong, this issue is starting to have a demoralizing effect on the troops. What the hell kind of Commander in Chief would not want to immediately put this thing to rest for the sake of his troops?
50 posted on 07/22/2009 5:34:42 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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