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No, Obama's grandmother didn't say he was born in Kenya (Presstitutes spinning Certifigate)
Salon ^ | July 23, 2009 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 07/24/2009 2:32:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article title is misleading. She clearly said Obama was born in Kenya. Whether her “correction” is truthful or not should be subject to further investigation not outright dismissal. One thing is for certain, the Kenyan government put her under armed guard and blocked media access leading up to the election.


101 posted on 07/25/2009 3:01:07 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: plenipotentiary
Looks like we're just going to have to disagree on this one then.
102 posted on 07/25/2009 1:40:08 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: fatnotlazy
That would end the controversy right there.
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It would not end the controversy even if his father were a U.S. citizen and he was born in the White House itself.

Why?

Because he was adopted by an Indonesian. There is the problem of his repatriation records ( never released), passport information and travel, selective service, and college applications as a possible foreign student. And...Orly Taitz states in a petition to a Georgia court that Obama has used multiple social security numbers, the most common shows him to be 119 years old.

So....Even if he took a proper repatriation oath and was a citizen of the U.S., he would still be a person whose natural born status would be in serious question.

103 posted on 07/25/2009 1:48:50 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: iowamark
I hate to say it, but this guy has a point. It is readily apparent that neither Obama’s step-grandmother nor the Kenyan ambassador actually claimed that Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya. However, all sorts of birthers with overactive imaginations will claim that they swore affidavits, erected statues, etc., etc., etc..

She said he was a "son of the village" according to one translation, and people, starting with the "Anabaptist Bishop," took that and ran with it. After a while it gets stated as a fact, rather than as a questionable interpretation of what she said.

It's a little comical, though: so many people going over the supposed birth certification with a fine tooth comb to prove it a forgery, while nobody bothers to find a Luo speaker to straighten out just what Sarah Obama said or didn't say.

Some people are so intensely desirous of a magic way to discredit socialism that they suspend disbelief.

In fact, the only way to defeat Obama and his ideology is politically and that involves much, much hard work, not card tricks.

True. So far all this is only helping Obama. It allows him to portray his opponents as mired in trivia and conspiracy theories.

It's a brilliant strategy. If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think he planned things that way, not releasing his documents so that we'd get mired in speculation.

One thing about all this: we had a lot of theories about the Clintons as well, but today nobody talks about them. Maybe we should address that -- what was true, what wasn't, what we'll never know, whether we were right or wrong -- before moving on to new conspiracies.

104 posted on 07/25/2009 1:50:53 PM PDT by x
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To: plenipotentiary
Obama’s Kenyan step grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama alleged that she attended his birth in Mombasa Kenya.

Did she? Sarah Obama on record as saying in her native language that Barack Obama was a "son of the village." Bishop McRae and others took that as meaning that he was born in the village, but she may only have been speaking metaphorically. Then McRae uses her statement as evidence that Obama was born in Mombasa, on the other side of Kenya.

How much sense does that make? Harry Truman was a proud son of Independence, Missouri. But that doesn't mean he was born there (he was born on a farm elsewhere in the county). And it certainly isn't evidence that he was born in St. Louis.

Sarah isn't actually Barack Obama's grandmother. She's one of his grandfather's other wives. When McRae asked her about Barack Jr. and Barack Sr., about her son and grandson, and then threw in Mombasa there was confusion. I wouldn't say for certain that she didn't know who he was talking about, but I also wouldn't bet the farm that she was trying to say that she was there when Obama was born and the rest of the family was trying to shut her up. It's not the only possibility, maybe not even the most likely.

It's similar with "son of the soil" comments. Mario Cuomo was a "Son of Italy," Jack Kennedy "a proud son of old Ireland," but that doesn't mean that they were born there. Bill Clinton was also a "son of Ireland" and there's a village there that claims him. Nobody bothered that the Clintons were actually his stepfather's family, not his birth father's.

105 posted on 07/26/2009 11:27:27 AM PDT by x
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No. Read the affidavits. Granny told the truth that she was at Obamas birth. Her family members “corrected” her when they realised that she had dropped them in it.


106 posted on 07/26/2009 11:59:55 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Free the Oil, Topple the Saudis. Confiscate Putins money. Disconnect Siberia.)
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To: trumandogz

Treason? Sarah Palin? Please explain that one!


107 posted on 07/26/2009 12:09:11 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

I was not the person who used the word “treason.”

However, all of the people that I mentioned had the right and the duty to voice their objection to the election of Obama based on a belief that he was not eligible to hold office. Moreover, all of the people mentioned were involved in the process of electing Obama via the Electoral College.

For example, any one of the 50 governors could have withheld their state’s electoral votes, and any member of Congress could have objected when Dick Cheney moved to certify the election of Obama.


108 posted on 07/26/2009 12:18:44 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
The electoral college is winner take all, McCain/Palin won Alaska so governor Palin could not withhold any electoral college votes for Obama. And even had Alaska gone for Obama, it is the Secretary of States job to certify election results not the governors. And even if it was the governors job to certify results Sarah would have been impeached, jailed and nailed to a cross for trying it.

Dude you need to take a deep breath and slowly count to ten.

Sometime this crazy stuff is real (Nixon-watergate) sometimes it's not (Clinton white water). But stamping your feet and calling everyone a traitor is not helpful. WorldNetDaily is on the case as are a few other very resourceful people, if there is anything to this story and I think there is, it will be found out. One just can not hide 40 years.

109 posted on 07/26/2009 3:28:53 PM PDT by jpsb
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