Skip to comments.Little gems from the Health Care Bill
Posted on 07/24/2009 3:12:23 PM PDT by CMS
Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll <>BR Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.
Thanks, you have pointed out much of the misinformation about misinformation that I noted as I just read through the ‘Crap’ article!
Enjoyed the graphic
From page 59:
(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation with the related health care payment and remittance advice;”
Granted, it currently says ‘enable’.
“What if I dont want a National Health ID card?”
That would be doubleplusungood for you, comrade;)
I had a link somewhere to the bill and read some of the highlights, the ones I read appeared to be true.
That poster is either trolling or hasn't read the bill.
I'll go find that link
Like the magical sound of the back porch bug-zapper! Thanks Jim!
“Who would go through 23 YEARS of school and training minimum (12 years of primary, 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school and 3 years of residency minimum) and then decide to add on up 7-10 years more for heart surgery or neurosurgery for the same pay?”
Actually..that doesnt take into account that many college students change majors and end up with 5-6 years of undergrad. Some with masters degrees return to school for a B.S., then apply to med school. Still others return to school in their 30s and 40s in the hopes of becoming a doctor. What is going to happen when all these scenarios cease to come to pass? A whole lot LESS doctors in our country.
I’m convinced that we will see a lot of arrests in 5-10 years of competent doctors practicing without a license. As in, going underground to treat their patients. A friend of mine told me of a cardiologist in the UK who reached his quota and was TOLD by the govt not to perform any more heart surgeries for the remainder of the year despite many being on a waiting list.
Wow..hold on a minute. Am i to understand that anyone with an opposing view gets banned here? Honestly?!
Funny, they don’t do that at the other sites I visit: Ars Technica, TownHall, Am. Spec, or Seeking Alpha. Please tell me I didn’t make a mistake signing up with this site.
“I don’t know how to hot link.”
Hit “Enter” after each URL.
But I got it off of another forum http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=903496
and they got it from, and just cleaned it up a bit.
You are like those in Nazi Gemany trying to assure the Germans Hitler was doing what was in the best interests of the German people. Remember how safe Hitler made the streets of Germany by enacting gun laws?
...don't forget you're paying for retirement twice already too if you have an IRA/401K to prop up your Social Security.
I actually was planning on posting a "Freeper's Observation" op-ed on this subject tomorrow. However CMS has done such a great job of adressing this issue that I thought I'd instead go ahead and augment the work that he/she has done so well on this subject.
This thread was linked to on some other websites in op-eds and some of the responses have been rather predictable. Both here and in those other threads. There are apparently some Obamabots who obviously are attemping to sell this snake oil who are trying to convince us that what CMS says is false and that what it is really isn't.
Let me just say that I have in fact read the various versions of this bill in their respective entirties and I can tell you that CMS is dead right on this. This peice of legislation is snake oil. Deadly, poisonous snake oil at that.
Earlier this week, My dad Chuck who will turn 87 in October received a brand new pacemaker, his third one. I can tell you that had this legislation been in effect, he would not had received it.
It's quite obvious that people are catching on to this piece of snake oil and are voicing opposition. What we are witnessing from the MSM who obiviously is in the pockets of the Obama Adminstration and the Reid-Pelosi crowd are Saul Alinsky style tatics. Tatics designed to try and smear the good names of people like myself and CMS who are simply trying to blow the whistle on this piece of poisonous and deadly snake oil.
I would just say to everyone before you go and take the words of these unsavory elements as gospel that you stop and think for a moment. This legislation clearly has Satan written over it. I can tell you that this is not something the man up above would condone much less tolerate. Do we really want Obama and the Democrats playing G*d with people's lives?
I would urge everyone to contact your Congressman about this snake oil and let him or her know how you feel about this piece of snake oil being shoved down our throats. Even if your congressperson is an (R), you still should contacct him or her to voice opposition. There are a number of very unsavory elements, Obamabots and others who embarce this Satan death culture who are going to try to convince our elected representatives that the vast majority of people support this snake oil when in reality, it's the other way around. We need to make every possible effort to outnumber these unsavory elements.
And, as to these clowns and goonies such as those at Politico and like Andrea Mitchell from PMSNBC, it's obvious they've have never had a real job in their lives and don't have any since of what real life is like. These news organizations need to be put out of business. They are not telling te whole story of what is going on in the world around us. If you really want to know what's going on in the world around you, you need to dump these clowns and goonies and start getting your news from sources like World Net Daily, Newsmax, Drudge Report and Free Republic.
The MSM has no interest whatsoever in reporting the news, their only interest is in turning America into another Zimbabwe.
Once again, Kudos to CMS for a job well done in doing his/her homework on this very subject. Whether anyone likes it being said or not this legislation is posionous, deadly snake oil and needs to be defeated.
Anyone voting for this is voting for murder and needs to have his or her butt run out of town. It's time for these clowns and goonies in Washington to get the message. It is they who work for us, not the other way around. It is we who are the bosses, not the other way around.
And, if they don't get it then they need to have their butts run out of town, period end of quote.
And worse still, hardly ANYONE outside of Conservative radio even mentioned this.
Thank you CMS.. I got this from Charisma. AJH
ping for later
That’s not all my friends.
Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Govt will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic med records.
PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps Can u say unions & ACORN?
PG 621 Lines 20-25 Govt will define what Quality means in HC. Since when does Govt know about quality?
PG 624 Quality measures shall b designed to profile u including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc
Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.
PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed Qual Measures 4 Physician Svcs & Dialysis Svcs.
Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision Govt wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.
PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency Govt will tell U where ur residency will b, thus where ull live.
Pg 676-686 Govt will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, incl. teaching hospitals.
PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/suppliers admittance into HC Exchng.
Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med svcs MUST b enrolled in Medicare.
Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. purposes the Secretary-HHS will give Atty General access to ALL data.
Pg 757-762 Fed govt will shift burden of payments 2 Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) 2 States. (Taxes)
Pg 768 Sec 1713 Govt Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union paybacks)
Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Svcs increasing birth intervals btwn pregnancies. Govt Abortions any1?
Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Govt mandates eligibility 4 State Family Planning Svcs. Say abortion & State Sovereign.
Pg 789-797 Govt will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought 2 mrkt. Bye innovation
PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!
Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. 2 register. Govt takes over private payment sys.
PG 829-833 Govt will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!
Pg 838-840 Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation Prog 4 families w young kids & families expect kids.
PG 844-845 OMG! This Home Visitation Prog. includes Govt coming in2 ur house & telling u how 2 parent
Pg 859 Govt will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.
Pg 865 The Govt will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps
PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment
PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs
PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. 2 ensure supply of public health prof.
PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.
PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians
PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL incl commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft? WTF!
PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.
PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.
PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency trng 4 HC professionals.
Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- intial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion
PG 936 Govt will develop Healthy People & National Public Health Perform. Standards Tell me what 2 eat?
PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Govt? Offices of Surg. Gen. -Public Health Svc, MinorityHealth, Womens Health
PG 993 Govt will establish school based health clinics. Your kids wont have a chance.
PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!
PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will u be tracked?
PG 1003 9-11 National Med Dev Reg (iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities U WILL b tracked.
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Pg 29 has a paragraph showing "annual limitations" - which I take to mean your out of pocket expenses will not exceed $5000 for an individual or $10,000 for a family
This doesn't seem to be the same as an admission that health care will be rationed..... now don't misunderstand me - I do think it will be rationed, but I do not think this page defines that at all.
Anyone else read it this way?