Yup.... the resemblence to Barack Sr is UNCANNY! (/sarc)
Posted on 07/28/2009 11:00:24 AM PDT by trueamerica
VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961 at
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
says on page 231 under the section "Race and color" the following:
"Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
"The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used."
Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" shows father's race as "African". That word was not used in 1961 to describe race.
You can draw your own conclusion.
Make this a new thread! It's more evidence that something is screwy.
I’ve been betting all along that on the certificate (long) it read “African Arab” or just “Arab”, and on the certification (short) it was changed at the request of a Dunham or and Obama to just “African.”
BHO Sr. was of the Luo tribe and had a name that is a Romanized spelling of an Arabic name, and such Luo would never allow themselves to be called “Negro”.
IOW, on a birth certificate Hawaii could, and probably did, accept "African" as designation for the black race. That is because the federally agreeable term, "white," wasn't necessarily being used by Hawaii as late as 1963 -- either.
The evidence for this is the redacted, but apparently actual, Certificate of Live Birth that's been on the Web for some time. This document shows the race of both parents as "Caucasian."
Of, course, everything about this controversy is so screwy, nothing would surprise me.
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Polarik says Obama did not request the COLB.
If there was a request for COLB from Obama, it should be on file, along with a copy of his paid invoice.
Are document requests public or private?
That find increases the odds that OdumbO’s BC is a type 2.
Yes, “Negro” was the correct racial term to use in 1961. I absolutely agree with you. All I am saying is that there might have been an understandable motive for someone in 1961 such as a clerk or a nurse or a doctor to use the incorrect term “African” in this case: not wanting to use “Negro” for someone who was an educated gentleman from Kenya and wanting to create a distinction in his case. That said, I think the COLB is very fishy and would really like for Obama to come clean and release his long form.
Oh yeah - The Mozambiqui! I almost forgot.
That’s been my thought as well...it’s not a matter of where he was born (any record involved will inevitably show him born in Hawaii, fact or fiction)...but the long form is going to list him as Caucasian...goodbye first African-American President...magritte
Maybe they said African because he wasn’t an American.
The democrats invented a new race, so they could peddle their race politics to them. You are either American Indian or white, there is no “hispanic” race.
I’m thinking they might be denying the BC thing to protect their own interests more than anything else. Perhaps they even privately think that there might be something to the BC issue — or perhaps not. But either way, they are denying that there is any “there there” simply to cover their butts and keep their ratings.
If they start beating like crazy on the BC issue, and Barry turns out to be a natural-born citizen all along, then they might have surmised that this would be a credibility loss and an embarrassment. On the other hand, if they insist that there is nothing to this issue, and there actually ends up being something there, then they can more easily just point to whatever revelations or evidence there is, and say “Wow, shocking new evidence, there is something to this after all, tune in to Hugh Hewitt for the explosive details....blah blah.” Not quite as bad.
I hope they’re not as cynically self-preservationist as that — maybe they just honestly don’t think anything is there on this issue — but the thought did cross my mind.
Kurt Tsue, a public relations officer for the Hawaii Department of Health answered this question almost a year ago. In 1961, Hawaii allowed the parents of a newborn to choose their own racial designation. Hawaii has always been the most multiracial state and its often difficult to assume a race from just looking at a person.
The following is from factcheck.org’s article on the Obama birth certificate: “Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn’t tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama’s father’s race listed as “African”? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that ‘we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.’ We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as “African.” It’s certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.
The word “African” was chosen by Barack Obama Senior. It is still typical today for Black Africans to not use the word “Negro”, or any other American racial identifier, even “Black” to describe themselves.
Even in 2009 Africans often identify with a nation or a tribal group not a race.
There’s nothing to see here, move along now.
The obvious point you seem to be missing is that the USG gives parameters on how to report the race of the child. It doesn't tell parents what they can and cannot put down on the birth certificate. They can classify themselves however they want. If you don't like any of the race categories listed, you can just check "other" and fill in what you want to call yourself.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-ACC.pdf
Duh. I can't believe how stupid the birther arguments have become.
WOW!!! Great catch.
Make this a new thread please.
It seems pretty plausible to me that African man would prefer to classify himself as "African" than as "Negro," given that Pan-African nationalism was so much in vogue at the time.
Great find!!! Its the pesky litle details that trip up the big lies.
BOR has some agenda on this “BC problem” and won’t give a hoot about silly little facts.
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