Posted on 07/28/2009 11:00:24 AM PDT by trueamerica
VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961 at
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
says on page 231 under the section "Race and color" the following:
"Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
"The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used."
Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" shows father's race as "African". That word was not used in 1961 to describe race.
You can draw your own conclusion.
Does the race the mother gives appear on the birth certificate issued to the family and the record kept at the clerk's office even if it doesn't fit into pre-established categories? I don't know. I haven't seen enough birth certificates.
In some states at around the time Obama was born, the clerk or the state might simply reject what the mother said. But in others there might be a discrepancy between the record for the family and the record given the state health authorities.
So, yes, until I see more birth certificates, it's more of a gut feeling, but I don't think a Hawaiian clerk would have rejected "African" as a racial label. And that would stay on the birth certificate, though the information would be recoded when it was compiled for official statistics. But I'd have to actually see examples to be sure of what's more of a hunch.
Nowadays only 5 states still list the race of the child on birth certificates. Hawaii is one of them.
In censuses you can give your race as you like. It either gets recoded as one of the government categories or as "Other."
Yes, that is precisely how they identified themselves in 1961. It was better and more modern than "colored" which had recently fallen into disuse.
Add more to Obama’s lengthy trail of suspicions.
Why is it so, so important for Obama to spend over a million dollars in legal fees to keep his original long form birth certificate hidden from the American people? That speaks for itself.
Your not alleging that by simply being born in HI (assuming it's true), that he would then be considered a NBC, are you?
I've yet to find any judicial or legislative writings or opinions that state being born to a foreign national father would mean one is NBC.
Leo's trying (again) to hammer this important point home:
Hawaii Health Department’s Fukino Now Constitutional Lawyer?
So is Mario, of course (that Barry couldn't be NBC, even IF born in HI, assuming BHO sr. is his father):
Washington Times National Weekly, 20 July 2009 issue - Advertorial on Page 9
“Your not alleging that by simply being born in HI (assuming it’s true), that he would then be considered a NBC, are you?”
No! I’m not sure how my words gave that impression. I just said that if it does turn out that Barry is a natural-born citizen (through indisputable evidence that shows it), then...[fill in rest of my original post].
OK. I just couldn’t understand how it could ‘turn out that he is NBC’, as if when the HI long form is finally revealed.
So we should think that the Doctor and Nurse filling out the BC paperwork instead let the father fill in the section marked RACE with a designation that was technically incorrect? By this token the Caucasian designation would have been marked WHITE? This might very well happen nowdays, with all the dumbdown PC publik skool edicashun.
Reality is that the Nurse takes down the pertenient information and later fills in the blanks. Yes the father could have claimed AFRICAN, but certainly in 1961 this would not have been considered RACE and the person charged with completing the form would have marked NEGRO or NEGROID.
I think it is gone already. I get a blank page.
Private, and, YES, there is no 2007 COLB for Obama, except for the fabricated fake one.
Didn’t see you in here so thought I’d ping a ling
I'll bite and guess in the 80's sometime
The United States did not use the word "African" for birth certificates in 1961 - Obama's does!
That’s great. I was just looking for this.
O Negro or Black
There has been so much news lately, everyone is having difficulty keeping up.
Are these news releases meant distract us from other events in DC?
I don’t know. I am to distracted with all the “news” coming from around the world.
What will happen on Friday after the “America’s Races” summit at Barry’s house?
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