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Everything changed from 1960 to 1961? Or even from 1950 to 1961? Not likely. But if you were used to listing people as "Filipino" or "Portuguese" or "Puerto Rican" you wouldn't find "African" much of a stretch, all the more so if you didn't actually see that many "Negroes" around.

Again do you have any evidence anyone at all listed their race as "African"? I understand what you're offering as opinion, but I'm more interested in evidence.

117 posted on 07/28/2009 12:24:06 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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I'm not an expert in this. "Recoding" goes on a lot. What the mother gives as her race and her child's, is translated into one of five or so racial categories when it's sent to state authorities for government statistics.

Does the race the mother gives appear on the birth certificate issued to the family and the record kept at the clerk's office even if it doesn't fit into pre-established categories? I don't know. I haven't seen enough birth certificates.

In some states at around the time Obama was born, the clerk or the state might simply reject what the mother said. But in others there might be a discrepancy between the record for the family and the record given the state health authorities.

So, yes, until I see more birth certificates, it's more of a gut feeling, but I don't think a Hawaiian clerk would have rejected "African" as a racial label. And that would stay on the birth certificate, though the information would be recoded when it was compiled for official statistics. But I'd have to actually see examples to be sure of what's more of a hunch.

Nowadays only 5 states still list the race of the child on birth certificates. Hawaii is one of them.

In censuses you can give your race as you like. It either gets recoded as one of the government categories or as "Other."

141 posted on 07/28/2009 1:15:49 PM PDT by x
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