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The fatal flaw with radioactive dating methods
CMI ^ | July 30, 2009 | Tas Walker, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/30/2009 10:42:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The fatal flaw with radioactive dating methods

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This illustrates the problem with the radioactive dating of geological events. Those who promote the reliability of the method spend a lot of time impressing you with the technical details of radioactive decay, half-lives, mass-spectroscopes, etc. But they don’t discuss the basic flaw in the method: you cannot determine the age of a rock using radioactive dating because...

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To: SandyInSeattle
Humans invented the tests, so humans invented the interpretation of the tests, so the result can mean anything humans decide they mean. It’s not like when we arrived on earth we found an owner’s manual waiting for us with a chapter on interpreting tests that we humans developed.

We have such an "owner's manual"; it's called the Holy Bible, and it tells us exactly how our history should be interpreted. If a test made by mere humans shows "results" that differ from the default, infallible "owner's manual", well, then there's no need to look any deeper, because the tests are flawed.

Funny that Creation Scientists, who do research honestly, don't run into any of these "problems".

Praise be to Him!

101 posted on 07/30/2009 7:04:00 PM PDT by WondrousCreation (Good science regarding the Earth's past only reveals what Christians have known for centuries!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

According to you, the swimmer swam the first 9 laps at 4,567,939 mph and swam the last at the observed rate.


102 posted on 07/30/2009 7:12:17 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: OldGuard1
Making fun of someone's religious beliefs is not cool.

According to the creationists here, evolution is a religion and they make fun of it on every thread. Therefore, by your post, creationists are not cool.

103 posted on 07/30/2009 7:14:20 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: OldGuard1
The real problem with radioactive dating is that it assumes that the rate of radioactive decay is constant throughout time.

The design and licensing of nuclear power plants is dependent on a constant decay rate. Ergo, you call for the revocation of the licenses of the nuclear power plants shutting down about 20 percent of our country's electrical supply. Thanks!

104 posted on 07/30/2009 7:17:46 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: SandyInSeattle
I have a problem with all human-developed dating methods.

I have the same problems with human-developed language systems.

Humans invented the texts, so humans invented the interpretation of the texts, so the result can mean anything humans decide they mean. It’s not like when we arrived on earth we found an owner’s manual waiting for us with a chapter on interpreting texts that we humans developed.

Until somebody can resolve that for me, I will be skeptical of any human developed “text” that claims to communicate anything.

105 posted on 07/30/2009 7:19:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Soviet Russia, Sarah Palin's house can see YOU)
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To: SandyInSeattle
"I knew I could count on you for a reasonable response instead of the insults another poster hurled at me earlier."

These threads are like watching "The Dark Crystal". A single creature, so torn by internal division that it actually separated. In fact, a whole race of such creatures.

The two halves of discussion here are like those beings; we have a curious, inquisitive nature, and we naturally gravitate to inspecting and investigating things and phenomena.

At the same time, we have immense fears, urging us to back away from the unknown. Truly we are torn.

So some of us satisfy our curiosity through the investigations of science, and some of us take respite and comfort from the perpetual unknowns by relaxing with a good book.

106 posted on 07/30/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (Oh well. Forewarned is forearmed. I'm up to my elbows in forearms.)
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To: WondrousCreation
We have such an "owner's manual"; it's called the Holy Bible, and it tells us exactly how our history should be interpreted. If a test made by mere humans shows "results" that differ from the default, infallible "owner's manual", well, then there's no need to look any deeper, because the tests are flawed. Funny that Creation Scientists, who do research honestly, don't run into any of these "problems".

They don't have any of these problems because they reject all physics, astronomy, biology and geology.

107 posted on 07/30/2009 7:22:40 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: WondrousCreation
We have such an "owner's manual"; it's called the Holy Bible, and it tells us exactly how our history should be interpreted. Which of the thousands of interpretations and translations of the "owner's manual" is the right one?
108 posted on 07/30/2009 7:24:04 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: facedown

You can’t fix stupid; however, you can elicit an occasional howler in response that makes your attempt worthwhile!


109 posted on 07/30/2009 7:36:42 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Until somebody can resolve that for me, I will be skeptical of any human developed “text” that claims to communicate anything.

Actually, you should be. Each generation changes the language and twists the meaning of words around to mean something completely different (i.e., "gay". That USED to mean happily cheerful. Now...)

110 posted on 07/30/2009 7:37:34 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What came first? The word, or the thought behind the word?)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Your point being?

And "silly" originally meant "pious"

111 posted on 07/30/2009 7:50:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Soviet Russia, Sarah Palin's house can see YOU)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Your point being?

I could have asked you the same thing, although I'm pretty sure your point was to mock me. I chose not to respond in kind, but to build on what you said.

And "silly" originally meant "pious"

I didn't know that! Interesting how words get completely twisted around over time, isn't it?

112 posted on 07/30/2009 8:01:09 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What came first? The word, or the thought behind the word?)
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To: tpanther

“Evolution isn’t science, it’s sheer liberal conjecture.”

So, have you informed John H. Marburger III, director of the White House’s Office of Science and Technology during the Bush administration of this?

This is what he had to say regarding Evolution:

“Evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology,” adding, “Much of the work supported by the National Institutes of Health depends heavily on the concepts of evolution. President Bush has supported the largest increases in the NIH budget in history.”


113 posted on 07/30/2009 8:35:49 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


114 posted on 07/30/2009 8:49:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tpanther
Evolution isn’t science, it’s sheer liberal conjecture.

How long did you stay up last night thinking of that one!

115 posted on 07/30/2009 8:56:46 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Ira_Louvin

The Bush adminstration got several things wrong. The borders, the response to the housing debacle, not fighting back, and this is just another example.


116 posted on 07/31/2009 6:51:14 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I'll simply add this for those who are interested.

Why do you think a simple reiteration of the evolutionist cosmogonic myth that doesn't interact with any criticisms will be convincing?

117 posted on 07/31/2009 6:57:12 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: tpanther

You are referring to the incorrect Bush administration.

John H. Marburger III., was appointed by George W. Bush.

You know a little research on a topic before you respond is a good thing. It keeps one from looking foolish.


118 posted on 07/31/2009 7:18:25 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: tpanther
I'll tell you why, because liberalism is a disease.

I agree. And believing stupid crap with no supporting evidence (like creationism) because it feels good is pure, 100% unadulterated liberalism.
119 posted on 07/31/2009 8:34:32 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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