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Can Pawlenty Win Evangelicals and Moderates (Unlike Palin and Huckabee)?
US News & World Report ^ | 7/30/09 | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 07/31/2009 12:45:39 PM PDT by steve-b

It's striking that today's Associated Press profile of Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a possible 2012 Republican presidential candidate, excludes mention of his evangelical faith and strong ties to the evangelical world. I was struck by the same absence in a recent New York Times Pawlenty profile.

How solid are Pawlently's evangelical bona fides? The pastor of his home church is president of the National Association of Evangelicals, the nation's largest evangelical interest. Last year, as John McCain struggled to win over evangelical leaders, Pawlently quietly tried to arrange a meeting between the Republican presidential nominee and National Association of Evangelical bigs, but to no avail....

Unlike prospective Republican White House contenders like Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin, Pawlenty doesn't talk like a culture warrior, which helps explain why Pawlenty coverage in the national media ignores his faith-based side. But can his less strident tone help him win independents in a way that Huckabee and Palin have failed to, while his evangelical side makes him a hit with the GOP's social conservative base?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; christianvote; evangelicals; pawlenty
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To: the long march
You mean real conservatives don’t you?

Nope. Most talk radio listeners are sheep. They actually believed that Mitt was a Reagan conservative and none of the big talkers did anything to correct that perception. They actually helped create it. They had no problem with Mitt's government run health care but they are vehemently opposed to 0bama care? Something doesn't add up.

51 posted on 07/31/2009 1:42:40 PM PDT by Tramonto (Live Free of Die)
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To: steve-b

I dont think a Minnesota RINO will be able to win the nom. in 2012.

Palin should run in 2012. She would win the nomination. Unlike 2008. it seems that RINOs are more interested in running, compared to conservatives.

Even if she did not win the nom. in ‘12...she is still young enough for ‘16.


52 posted on 07/31/2009 1:43:45 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Know the difference between "conservative" and "republican")
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To: steve-b
Can Pawlenty Win Evangelicals and Moderates (Unlike Palin and Huckabee)?

If they like Cap & Trade (Ration & Tax) because Gov. Green Jeans Pawlenty is a big greenie.

Pawlenty, championed his own regional Cap & Trade. I guess he was afraid the Democrats couldn't pass it, or at least not pass it fast enough for Pawlenty, so he felt it necessary to try to do his own Cap & Trade.

Pawlenty also signed into law bills requiring energy companies to buy increasing amounts of scarce and expensive green energy. Already the energy companies in Minnesota are asking for increases to pay for their increased costs brought on by Pawlenty's foolishness.

Pawlenty? This Minnesota conservative says No Thanks!

53 posted on 07/31/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by RJL
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To: steve-b

I don’t think if Pawlenty was the GOP nominee in 2012 he would even carry Minnesota.


54 posted on 07/31/2009 1:45:29 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: steve-b
No Rinos

>The “Republican governor eyeing a presidential run in 2012” appears to be Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty. Pawlenty used his time at yesterday’s roundtable discussion to cast himself as the “modern” Republican while casting aspersions on the traditional conservative message, calling for outreach to the “new demographics,” deriding the GOP for allegedly being 15 years behind in the use of the Internet, and calling for the party not to be led by “a crank.” Pawlenty appears to have John McCain’s penchant for attacking conservatives rather than those in the other party.

Pawlenty in Miami was publicly angry, agitated, and even cranky, possibly because he found himself at odds with the far more conservative tone of every other speaker here. Hundreds of RGA members, who paid thousands of dollars to attend this Conference, wildly applauded “red meat” conservative pronouncements by speakers and not the more moderate and conservative-jabbing words by Pawlenty.

55 posted on 07/31/2009 1:45:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: SoConPubbie

No... I think that *is* one way that someone can tell *if* a conservative might be thinking of running for the Office of President of the United States.

That’s because you won’t find anyone who is doing that, who will open their mouth about the “Obama birth certificate”... thus it’s a way of “eliminating” someone from consideration...

If you see a conservative mentions the “Obama birth certificate” issue as a viable issue — then you know that they are *not running* for that office in the future... that’s guaranteed.... :-)


56 posted on 07/31/2009 1:45:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Loyalist

Loyalist, I have to agree with you. Personality is another way of saying ‘charisma’...and we like that in our leaders be they left, right or moderate. It’s one reason Teddy Roosevelt is sill remembered fondly, why JFK—even if you didn’t agree with his politics—is still revered by many (Okay, dying young by an assassin’s bullet helped), why we all smile (again left and right) at the memory of Ronald Reagan


57 posted on 07/31/2009 1:47:36 PM PDT by winnotwhine (It's easy to whine...I'd rather win)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Fred Thompson took a pass on his own candidacy in 2008; he didn’t run so much as he strolled.


58 posted on 07/31/2009 1:48:21 PM PDT by Loyalist (If a tree falls in the forest, and the media is not there to cover it, does it make a headline?)
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To: The Great RJ
I wish someone would do a poll that would show just how much more McCain would have lost by if he had chosen Romney, Rudy or any of the other Rino's as his number 2.
I say "Bama" would have hand him his a$$! Not that "Bama" would have gotten any more votes than he did, but because so many would have stayed home and not voted at all!
59 posted on 07/31/2009 1:50:19 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Loyalist

Y’know, another one of the great big media-fed lies about Fred Thompson was his laziness. I remember when that was thrown in his face during a Larry King interview and Jeri Thompson reeled off all the things Fred did to keep current, the pace of which would’ve sent most of us too total exhaustion, dismissing the allegation as rightfully bull$hit.


60 posted on 07/31/2009 1:55:06 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Loyalist
One hears so much about this elusive bloc of fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters that is essential to the GOP’s success...

An impossible position, social liberalism requires non fiscally responsible big spending.

61 posted on 07/31/2009 2:01:44 PM PDT by RJL
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To: wolfcreek

Wheelock Whitney’s involvement with Pawlenty has never bothered me.

It’s some of the things that Pawlenty stands for that bothers me!


62 posted on 07/31/2009 2:31:19 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: steve-b

Pawlenty is a loser!

Go Sarah!


63 posted on 07/31/2009 2:33:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: steve-b

Pawlenty is yet another RINO and the GOP presidential race in 2012 doesn’t need any more, thanks, we’ve got our limit.


64 posted on 07/31/2009 2:59:30 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Do not go gentle into that good night)
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To: DustyMoment

Ditto!

Gov “Asleep at the Switch” is a non-starter for a lot of folks.


65 posted on 07/31/2009 3:27:20 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: indylindy

” I am not interested in Pawlenty. The only decent thing out of Minnesota is Bachmann.”

Well stated. She’s the kind of representative who we need
more of.

Pawlenty couldn’t even get a pub senator elected from this state.

Not that Norm is any prize, but he’s better than Franken


66 posted on 07/31/2009 3:29:55 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Kartographer

They already did that in the last election with Grandpa Munster running against Obama. And Pawlenty was first in line to endorse him.


67 posted on 07/31/2009 7:36:22 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Exactly!


68 posted on 07/31/2009 7:37:33 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: RJL; fieldmarshaldj
"An impossible position, social liberalism requires non fiscally responsible big spending."

I don't see why you can't think abortion should be legal and that homos should be allowed to marry each other (if this is what social liberal means) and not hate taxes and government spending. I'm sure plenty of everyday people feel that way.

However in elected politicians that alignment is unheard of. Those who have claimed it are liars who aren't fiscal conservatives at all. Jesse Ventura for example. "Fiscally conservative, socially liberal" was his friggin motto. And he wanted to hike taxes. Mark Kirk and the twins from Maine are so 'pro-choice' they want taxpayers to fund abortions.

69 posted on 08/01/2009 12:58:15 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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