The Jackasses did it……HR 2749 the Seizure of the US food supply and production passed the House

Farm Wars ^

[Kartographer]

I have tried and tried to warn people that this government means to use food as a weapon to force compliance with its will, but may on hear thought I was nuts, they think that the free market will save them, that there's no need for strategic stock plies of food. Between this bill, the fact that there are no longer food reserves being held and with the Chinese so flush with dollars that they will be able to buy the bread right out of our mouths those not prepared will have a long road to hoe. Those of you claiming silver and gold are the answer try eating it. When bread is scarce available and you have a loaf how much are you going to be willing to sell it for? Food, guns and ammo.
A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

[sonic109]

Just another Obama plan to have the feds run EVERYTHING ..the complete opposite of what our constitution stands for . Has anyone asked Obama how he justifies going against the very essence of our constitution?

[FromLori]

I agree I also worry about them confiscating the gold so I have only a small amount preferring to be ready and have supplies. I think you can also barter better if there is a bank holiday, etc.

[the invisib1e hand]

some background for those of us in Rio Linda?

[Bean Counter]

My pleasure! It’s a good subject to discuss because there are so many aspects to it, and so many useful things for people to contribute.

Just this evening I was talking with my neighbor, who I have been trying for months to engage in the subject of preparedness. I even told him that come thick or thin, I have his back and he has mine.

He is still convinced he is going to “head for the hills” and “live off the land”. I think he’s fooling himself but I cannot change his mind.

You need a minimum of 2500 calories (or more) a day to survive depending on your circumstances, and considering that the average squirrel is good for about 400 calories, it kind of limits your daily nutritional choices. Yah, you can shoot a deer and try and dry some meat over your campfire, but I’d rather be doing it in the good dehydrator we got (at a discount) and packing it up beforehand in vacume sealed bags that will keep for years without the danger of botulism killing my family.

I also look to stock barter goods, and that can be anything useful from a package of lighters from Costo to the half gallons of sour Mash whiskey and 190 proof grain alcohol we have stashed away. The alcohol is medicinal, antiseptic, anesthetic (in a real pinch) and great for barter. I figure my grandson won’t mind cleaning out that particular locker out in the garage some day...

Another item that goes along with the barrels is either a stock of cheap chlorine bleach or swimming pool chlorinating chemicals. Also you need to make some kind of provisions for emergency filtration of the barrel water, before you boil it for 20 minutes, and then chlorinate it for storage...there are specific sanitary necessities here, so it is best to be informed before you contract typhus or breed mosquitoes in your drinking water supply.

I pray we never need any of this stuff, but in reality it will all come in useful at some point. If I died tomorrow, someone else could still use my supplies, so I feel fine about being prepared. But these days I think there are a lot of very good reasons to be prepared, and that’s a good thing.

Again, understand that my basic survival philosophy revolves around the premise that I will not be forced to evacuate my present location no matter what. That plays a big part in what plans I make and whether I make a stand or run like hell; and your plans may or may not be congruent with mine.

[JimRed]

Bump

[Halgr]

No one will be able to live off the land, tell your friend that he needs to think this through.....

His plan could be fatal.

[TEXOKIE]

bttt

[RepublicanChick]

ping

[autumnraine]

How do you can chicken? I can my vegetables (except pickles, I have the darndest time trying to make pickles) and I’d be interested in canning chicken.

[autumnraine]

I’m trying to wade through it, but I can’t figure out their definition of a “Facility”. That’s the kicker, there IS no definition of a “facility”.

[oldfart]

BOOKMARK

[autumnraine]

That part was removed last night.

[STARWISE]

~~How much more 1984 can it get........? PING!!

Dear Lord!

If you’ve got a plot of ground

http://www.survivalseedbank.com/

[EverOnward]

bump for later read

[mylife]

These freeks are out of control.

Vilsack did this?

[laxcoach]

“Grow lights? Thanks to the Nanny Staters, they already track your electrical usage and look for heat signatures in your house looking for dope growers...”

I wonder how LED lights would perform. There is very little heat and electricty usage for the lumen output. They last for 10s of thousands of hours too. Supposedly they have a good spectrum.

But I haven’t seen anything about it. Of course, I guess I should google the dope growing forums.

[ApplegateRanch]

And that exclusion for farms??? Gone! And that includes you organic idiots who thought you had kissed enough behinds to have your industry excluded.

The newly revised bill that appeared overnight after the original was defeated 29th of July, now includes all those farms we were told would not be affected by this legislation.

The entire HR 2749 bill was completely wiped and replaced with an amendment that was the text of another bill similar to, but far more lethal than the first.

[STARWISE]

Dingell . sponsor

But these make me sick, our guys .. supposedly:

Bachman
McCotter

and they’re among others that stun me

There’s the whole voting list upthread. Un ..FReeping .. real!

[MHGinTN]

A Japanese inventor solved that problem with light tubes, skylight domes which have a reflective shaft which dumps outside light anywhere you direct the tube(s).