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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: iontheball
I couldn't get iontheball's link to work. Perhaps this one will:

J.B. Williams article -- Conspiracy II

10,351 posted on 09/15/2009 7:38:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; iontheball

FWIW, that happens to me a lot — can’t get Canada Free Press links to work. Mention on Free Republic must crash their servers! LOL.


10,352 posted on 09/15/2009 7:40:50 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Non-Sequitur
And what was Orly's answer to that, you dimwit?



As Gary Kreep said, "Your Honor, Ms. Taitz said she, under no circumstances, can work with me and will not agree to work with me.

Or they could take Orly's advice:

Taitz, "I encouraged Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson to file an emergency stay in the Supreme Court of CA (2 levels higher), I encouraged them not to waste time, suing 55 democratic party electors, as it was taking a long time to serve them and it was not necessary, I encouraged to utilize Vatel definition of Natural Born Citizen, which was the most beneficial for the plaintiffs. In response Kreep has written to them, encouraging them to fire me. Alan Keyes refused to fire me"

-end snip-

10,353 posted on 09/15/2009 8:14:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: STARWISE

Huh???????????


10,354 posted on 09/15/2009 9:42:18 PM PDT by bobaloobob
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To: Red Steel
Or they could take Orly's advice

And the will no doubt get what they pay for. But let's not pretend that Kreep and Taitz are a legal team in this. The idea of one being lead and one being junior is a Red Steel pipe dream.

10,355 posted on 09/16/2009 3:50:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Kevmo
Ys, Orlys site is continually re i infected with a virus that insiinuates itself into PC registry, and then prevents various functions from activating, such as Norton 360, and other security software. Microsoft is actually researching a fix at this point.

THe virus takes over the loading of all major .dll files, and sends your PCs net adress to a server for targetinng for further infection through open ports on your PC.

10,356 posted on 09/16/2009 4:50:44 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7

Presumably you are going to have to run something to get infected. You are not going to get infected by viewing her web pages. Not only that, but the virus file was probably uploaded to the site through a normal upload process (e.g. her admin turned on ftp or even anonymous ftp). So that file is merely sitting in an “uploads” directory and has not “taken over” her server or anything close to that.


10,357 posted on 09/16/2009 4:55:22 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
I defer to your analysis. The offending mechanism appears to be a hacked abheration of Verizon software.

Mccibrowser.exe function, with the operative file:

msjsetidrtj.dll

10,358 posted on 09/16/2009 5:09:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7
That DLL is probably a trojan (never heard of it). There are essentially only two ways to get infected: one is to visit a ukranian (or whoever) website that has been specifically designed to infect, usually through a specially crafted media file (WMF or something like that). Simply viewing the site will cause an infection in an unpatched system. The second way to get infected is to click on an executable and run it. There could be an infected exe on any website that allows uploads or if the website administrator accidentally downloads one and places it on the website. But it is very unlikely that the latter type would infect only upon viewing (unless the admin was both unlucky and clueless enough to install an infected file in an spot where it would be automatically downloaded (e.g. from javascript on the web page).

It is also possible that Google will alert on a site if it contains links of the first type (i.e. a link to an maliciously generated web site). It is generally possible for anyone to place such a link on a website, even here, although I have seldom seen anything suspicious here.

10,359 posted on 09/16/2009 5:35:19 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Fred Nerks; David; Tennessee Nana; hoosiermama; All
Check this out from Natural Born Citizen:

New Hampshire SOS will investigate whether Obama's name belonged on ballot

FreeRepublic has a thread on this topic starting here:

New Hampshire Secretary of State will investigate whether Obama's name belonged on ballot

10,360 posted on 09/16/2009 12:27:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I sent an EMail to our own TN Sec of State...

tre.hargett@tn.gov

This would be a good thing to do around the country...

Bypass the state GOP officials...Who knows where their loyalty lies and whether they will get onboard ???

Do it yourself individually.. as patriotic and concerned American citizens..

Is there anyone else we can also talk to ???


10,361 posted on 09/16/2009 1:36:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN

See 10361


10,362 posted on 09/16/2009 1:38:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN; All
...with the layers of lies Barry Soetoro has already been caught in, it is not wise to trust anything he says regarding his mother and Barack Obama.

In general, I'd agree with you on that statement. In fact, there are quite a number of key statements in the autobiography that are false.

But when you say that Barack Sr. never acknowledged that he was Barry's father, the bulk of the credible evidence doesn't support that, especially that photo of Barack Sr. with Barry - without Stanley Ann, without the grandparents, without anyone else. Assuming that the photo was not created electronically at a later date, it's not very logical that Barack Sr. would agree to pose for that photo at that time if he had not agreed that Barack Jr. was his son. What would be the occasion for such a pose alone if it weren't a father-son thing? I just can't think of any other reason for such a pose.

Furthermore, about ten years later, Barack Jr. visited Barack Sr.'s family in Kenya. Now, unless Barack Sr. had acknowledged to his relatives that Barack Jr. was his son, it wouldn't be logical for the Kenyan "relatives" to give Jr. the warm welcome that they did, complete with photographic evidence of it. Don't think that the trip there would even have come off unless the Kenyans had been told by Barack Sr. that Barack Jr. was his son - whether or not Jr. was his biological son in fact. And if the late Barack Sr. had never told his mother about Jr. being his son, I don't think that Sr.'s mother would be telling the media last year about Jr. being her grandson and Jr. being born in Kenya.

10,363 posted on 09/16/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: afraidfortherepublic; hoosiermama; Tennessee Nana; David
"Congress satisfied President qualified to serve"

(Orly Taitz' & Connie Rhodes' case thrown out of court.)

10,364 posted on 09/16/2009 1:51:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: justiceseeker93

it’s not very logical that Barack Sr. would agree to pose for that photo at that time if he had not agreed that Barack Jr. was his son.
_______________________________________________

It’s quite logical for someone to pose for a photo with the child of a friend...

Especially someone from overseas who only gets to town once every ten years..

I think that one was taken at the airport when Obama Sr was leaving...

What more natural than “Let me take a photo of you and Barry” ???

There may have been one of Obama Sr and Stanley Ann too...

That is just one photo on a roll...

I have several photos of my children posing with good friends...

Dont you ???


10,365 posted on 09/16/2009 2:27:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: justiceseeker93

Barack Jr. visited Barack Sr.’s family in Kenya
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AFTER Obama Sr was dead..

He never bothered to go visit his “father” while he was alive..

Did he even write to his “father”

But he hies off to Africa once the old man is dead..

and cant disclaim him...

His “African” roots...


10,366 posted on 09/16/2009 2:31:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Excellent points, m’Lady.


10,367 posted on 09/16/2009 3:16:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If you look at the email exchange I had with the NH SOS here that I sent to Phil at TRSOL http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7265 you will see what kind of people we are dealing with. I had a similar exchange with Rhonda Brown from the GA SOS office. It is like pissing into the wind...The only difference in contacting them now is that maybe they are disappointed with BHO and may act on a request.....good luck.


10,368 posted on 09/16/2009 3:56:44 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect NOBODY)
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To: rxsid
...although Barack Hussein Obama Sr. never admitted to having a son...

So, he never admits that Junior is his son, but he invites Junior's pregnant mother to take a trip half way around the globe where she meets with his family and gives birth?

What part of that seems logical or makes sense? Why would she travel anywhere with a man who wouldn't admit he was her child's father?

If what you say is true, why would she go to Kenya?

10,369 posted on 09/16/2009 4:28:06 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I agree. Stanley Ann and her son could have arranged to met with Barak, Sr. at the airport as old friends and SAD could have said she would like to have a picture of her son with Barak and it was as simple as that. Barak wouldn’t have viewed the picture as a big deal.


10,370 posted on 09/16/2009 5:37:44 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Tennessee Nana

I agree. Stanley Ann and her son could have arranged to met with Barak, Sr. at the airport as old friends and SAD could have said she would like to have a picture of her son with Barak and it was as simple as that. Barak wouldn’t have viewed the picture as a big deal.


10,371 posted on 09/16/2009 5:37:52 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Tennessee Nana

Dispite Barak’s shortcomings, he was a more acceptable father than the real father.


10,372 posted on 09/16/2009 5:43:59 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: mountainbunny
We don't have documented proof she traveled to Kenya with Sr.

She very well could have traveled there in her attempt to "create" this background for Jr.

At this point, it's not 100% confirmed Sr. is Jr.'s biological father. In fact, there's only Barry's word. Do you trust Barry's word? I don't. Therefore, IMO, this is at least a possibility.

10,373 posted on 09/16/2009 6:14:59 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Steel; null and void; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; MHGinTN; pissant; hoosiermama; Amityschild; ...
"Inspector Smith" video regarding the term "COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUjXHiiTzM&feature=player_profilepage

10,374 posted on 09/16/2009 6:16:56 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

“Inspector Smith” video regarding the term “COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUjXHiiTzM&feature=player_profilepage


10,375 posted on 09/16/2009 6:20:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: rxsid; LucyT
I'm on dial-up tonight.....You got a synopsis?
10,376 posted on 09/16/2009 6:34:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

There’s also a photo (or two?) of Obama Sr, SADO, and little Barry with a Christmas tree somewhere in HI.

Since there is absolutely no evidednce of any relationship between SADO and Obama Sr anywhere, other than the claim of paternity, why would she have even met him at the airport, brought him to her apartment or house for Christmas visit and photo, etc?


10,377 posted on 09/16/2009 6:49:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
...why would she have even met him at the airport, brought him to her apartment or house for Christmas visit and photo, etc?

Interesting question. Could it be because she had named Obama Sr as the father in the fantasy divorce, used a kenyan birth certificate to enroll the boy in kindergarten and Frank Marshall Davis, Neil Abercrombie, Obama Sr and Pake Zane (and probably Stanley Armour Dunham) were all going to be at the reunion?

I can't think of a better time to introduce the boy to his fantasy father. Besides, how would you stop the boy from finding out his 'father' had been to visit in Honolulu and didn't take the time to see his 'son'?

SOURCE

"Barack Hussein Obama Sr’s trip to Honolulu in Dec 1971 was bracketed by two trips that Obama's old snack bar friends from the University of Hawaii made to see him in Kenya. Late in 1968, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane traveled through Nairobi on a year-long backpacking trip around the world and stayed with Obama for several days before they made their way on to the port city of Mombasa and to India. No mention was made of Stanley “Ann” Dunham or Barack Hussein Obama Jr. Neil Abercrombie is now Hawaii State’s 1st district Representative in the US Congress. He is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who until 1999, worked in open partnership with Democratic Socialists of America. Pake Zane runs a store called Antique Alley in Hawaii. Although in the 1960’s Hawaii offered a diverse cultural mix, native Hawaiian Pake Zane recalls that “He (Obama Sr.) was the first real black man I ever met”.

images at link

The sad truth for Barack Hussein Obama Jr, is that Obama Sr didn’t return to Hawaii in December 1971 to see his son, but rather to go party with his friends Neil and Pake. That is why there aren’t any pictures of Obama Jr. with his dad as an infant, nor are there any pictures of the Dunham grandparents and Obama Sr. Sadly the only picture from when Obama Jr’s dad returned to Hawaii is at the airport while Obama Sr. waited for his luggage.

and this one - an undated image found later.

10,378 posted on 09/16/2009 7:24:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks. So very freaking weird. Horrible. What sick people. No wonder Obama’s a psychopath.


10,379 posted on 09/16/2009 8:20:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Beckwith

A bit more grist for the mill ping ...


10,380 posted on 09/16/2009 8:27:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Looks like the same apartment where SADO had those nekkid pics taken......


10,381 posted on 09/16/2009 8:55:15 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti

No, I did check that out...the floor in those images was timber, not carpet.


10,382 posted on 09/16/2009 9:00:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: hoosiermama
Apparently, Corsi disputes if “COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL” exists or ever existed. Smith shows a youtube video where he uses a mult-media show doing a book.google.com search that finds "Annual report - Page 140 by Kenya. African Affairs Dept - History - 1956"

Which produces two excerpts:

2 pages matching "COAST PROVINCE GENERAL HOSPITAL" in this book:

Page 138

And

Page 140


10,383 posted on 09/16/2009 10:18:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; hoosiermama

Thanks Red Steel. Sorry I couldn’t get to it earlier hoosiermama.


10,384 posted on 09/16/2009 10:52:57 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Steel

FULL TEXT ELSEWHERE

Megaloblastic anaemia in Africans at the Coast Province General Hospital during 1960

Peter P. Turner, M.D., M.R.C.P., D.P.H., D.J.H.

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/trstmh/article/PII0035920363900099/abstract


10,385 posted on 09/16/2009 10:58:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: LucyT; Beckwith

Don’t know if this was ever posted, putting it up for the record:

Friday, December 12, 2008
Why Was Sarah Herlihy Worrying About Article II?

Contrairimairi has forwarded a post from Insight Analytical concerning Sarah Herlihy’s article that was also discussed in the blog Count us Out. Someone had forwarded Herlihy’s article to me and I blogged it on November 29. Herlihy works for the law firm of Kirkland and Ellis out of their Chicago office. The kicker is that Herlihy’s article was published in the Kent Law review in 2006 and, notes Count us Out Blogger Creative Ogre:

“While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. It’s title: AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE caught my eye, and had to read it…

“I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government? So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland & Ellis LLP

“Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter . Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

“In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the ” Illinois Venture Capital As sociation’s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital community” presented by Sen. Barack Obama

“So it sure looks like Obama’s people have looked into the matter of “Natural born” as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of “If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!”

Here is the introduction to the paper… It looks like a road map for Obama’s defense lawyers…And a precursor to a Socialist world.”

http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/12/was-sarah-herlihy-plant.html


10,386 posted on 09/16/2009 11:31:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: rxsid; Red Steel; Fred Nerks

Thanks to both of you. Am up with a yellow jacket sting and with the meds would have missed it if I weren’t double pinged.

Was talking to dad the other evening. He looked over MR SMITH’s document with a magifying glass and made the remark that if it is a forgery it was done by a pro..Three signatures, a stamp, and a seal to duplicate plus getting all of the information correct is not an easy task.

Don’t miss Fred’s great posts.....Orley needs to see them.


10,387 posted on 09/17/2009 1:26:50 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Senate votes to deny funds to ACORN
Community agency is under fire in several voter-registration fraud cases

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32848593/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

BREAKING NEWS——Census cutting all ties to ACORN
Fox News

Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:17:19 AM by mockingbyrd

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2337619/posts?q=1&;page=1#1


10,388 posted on 09/17/2009 3:32:08 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Here’s my take on Senior’s Christmas visit:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_opinion/SeniorsVisit.htm


10,389 posted on 09/17/2009 3:37:45 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Fred Nerks
And the comment at the base of that blog post by Mitchell

I can tell you why Herlihy was worried about natural born. Her boss. McCain Justice Advisory Committee Christopher Landau - Partner, Kirkland & Ellis LLP

It is starting to become clearer and clearer. That's why McCain went soft on BHO and we would probably find a similar connection in the Hillary campaign that kept her from barking about eligibility. Talk about conspiracy....I can't wait to see them all in cuffs.

10,390 posted on 09/17/2009 6:25:21 AM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: Beckwith

So they are divorced in ‘64 and official Hawaiian records show BHO II to be BHO Sr son. So why the adoption in ‘71? Why bother?


10,391 posted on 09/17/2009 7:06:52 AM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: pickyourpoison

bump


10,392 posted on 09/17/2009 8:10:29 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: Fred Nerks; All

I find it interesting that page is not found on the kent law review website. Looks like it has been scrubbed clean.

There has got to be a smoking gun somewhere.

TheArizona


10,393 posted on 09/17/2009 8:40:41 AM PDT by TheArizona
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To: GregNH

What “official Hawaiian records?”

If/when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, Senior was no longer Barry’s father. Why would Punahou School give a scholarship to an Indonesian citizen? The Dunhams had to re-Americanize Barry.

I’m only speculating because few “absolute facts” exist about Senior, Anna or Barry in the period from 1960 through 1966.


10,394 posted on 09/17/2009 8:42:52 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

Their divorce papers of ‘64 name BHO II as their son. No need to tell anyone he was adopted in Indonesia, is there?


10,395 posted on 09/17/2009 8:48:25 AM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: Fred Nerks

bump


10,396 posted on 09/17/2009 8:57:08 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Fred Nerks

The Herlihy paper has been cleansed from the Internet, btw.


10,397 posted on 09/17/2009 9:03:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

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10,398 posted on 09/17/2009 9:22:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: GregNH; All
I just had the following interaction with Leo. IMHO he was overly cynical about Judge Carter and places too much reliance exclusively on quo warranto, but at least today he was suggesting (can't solicit) that he was open to being contacted by Chrysler dealers to pursue quo warranto.

Seizethecarp Says:
September 17, 2009 at 12:26 pm
From my prior post:

Hasn’t a window of opportunity been opened by Judge Carter for a narrow remedy to be fashioned for Keyes (the non-military plaintiff with the most likely standing) if, for instance, the 1964 Kenya certification was authenticated to have come from Obama Sr’s family files, for example from the son of Obama Sr’s third wife who lives in the US? No FRE 902(3) Kenyan authentication (such as required for the Lucas Smith BC) would then be needed, would it?

This is totally speculative, but such a showing of Obama’s non-NBC status could allow the federal court to declare Obama to be ineligible without recourse to extrajudicial quo warranto or impeachment. Any implications of such a declaration of ineligibility by Judge Carter would be outside the judiciary as required by the Constitution, wouldn’t you agree?

[Ed. I don't understand your last paragraph. Please explain.]

Assume the following: Judge Carter finds Keyes has standing which implies a federal court remedy is available. Carter orders discovery including the 1964 Kenya certification which comes back as being authentic and is acceptable as evidence under FRE. Other discovery shows Obama knew or should have known he was not NBC due to either knowing he was born in Kenya and/or his admission against interest that he was a dual citizen governed by 1948 BNA at birth. Carter orders civil monetary remedy for Keyes based on injury caused by Obama being on ballot as an ineligible candidate. Carter makes no orders respecting Obama’s status as POTUS as that is barred by the Constitution.

As you have pointed out, the political elite of both parties have collectively ignored the NBC status of both McCain and Obama because the thought they could get away with it. An informed public can change that calculation, as the collapse of healthcare takeover and Acorn demonstrate. A ruling by Judge Carter affirming discovery that Obama is not NBC, even if he dismisses the case after discovery, would inform the public to the point of demanding action, even if the federal judiciary can’t take that action, don’t you agree?

[Ed. If the Judge orders discovery, it will be a PR victory. If that's your question, you have your answer. Will there ever be any meaningful discovery? Only if that discovery favors Obama.]

10,399 posted on 09/17/2009 12:23:42 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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It appears based on your post that all of the eggs are in the basket of Judge Carter ordering discovery.

Would that be a correct assessment - that discovery is our last hope?

10,400 posted on 09/17/2009 12:27:48 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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