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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: TheBigIf

There is a forgery floating around with a Dutch background. The words in Dutch, in the background, state that it’s political joke. It was debunked within an hour I believe.


1,401 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: mad_as_he$$

All of the ones for my three kids were folded in the same way including the initial ones I ordered. I ordered a new one for my youngest daughter from San Bernardino County overnight and enclosed an overnight return and that one is flat but it looks the same as the old one except the seal is highly visible. We did not want to send the only copy we had to get her passport so I ordered two more.


1,402 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Windflier
You bet the ranch that this document will get the best scrutiny available. It's one of the most valuable pieces of paper on earth at the moment.

I don't think Atty. Taitz claims to have the paper. I don't believe the physical document has been shown, or even claimed, to exist.

We're discussing an image - that's all.

1,403 posted on 08/02/2009 8:26:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: waxer1

I doubt that this is even going to get to court; I think it will probably not get very far beyond Free Republic, alas. I keep hoping something will happen to derail him, but then, people kept hoping that something would happen to Hitler, too, and it never did. It took a world war to remove him or make him remove himself.


1,404 posted on 08/02/2009 8:26:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: Bikkuri
I am no expert, but if this document turns out to be authentic, then the whole election has to be declared null and void and we will have to have another election. To me, this seems to be the only option.

Of course the speaker of the house (Nancy Pelosi) will have to step in as temporary president.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I am willing to go along with that if that is what the Constitution dictates.

1,405 posted on 08/02/2009 8:26:36 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Ok so it was a different document. I wasn’t sure sorry.

But anyway I am already having a lot of fun with this issue this morning on another forum whereas I am tormenting left-wing moonbats with the truth.

I love this issue!


1,406 posted on 08/02/2009 8:27:58 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: jla
If you don't see the importance of this topic and this development, then you're either blind, confused, plain stupid, or working for the other side.

Ann has already proven that she's one of those.

1,407 posted on 08/02/2009 8:28:07 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jedidah
If this turns out to be true and If there are any principaled Democrates they would tell Obama to resign to save our nation a constitutional crisis. Having Joe Biden as president is a very scary thought!
1,408 posted on 08/02/2009 8:28:15 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: John Valentine

Personally don’t think they want to admit the dates or the possibility this could be real.

The good news is that this would also be filed in London since at the time of his birth, Kenya was a colony.


1,409 posted on 08/02/2009 8:28:19 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: rintense

I believe that is a common mistake everyone makes. I don’t believe Biden can be POTUS because the entire admin would have been a fraudulent one.

One of the reasons I believe they are fighting this so hard is due to the Constitutional implications it will have.

It will create a total shitstorm throughout the country....possibly the 2nd Civil War as well......we are already on the brink of one and this just may push all of us right over the edge.

Just MHO!


1,410 posted on 08/02/2009 8:28:31 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: Mount Athos

Very good, but are you sure it answers the question?


1,411 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:17 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Menehune56

That is beyond interesting.....


1,412 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:41 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Paradox; Jim Noble
When you zoom the document fully, every single text character is surrounded by a halo of pixellation.

I notice that as well, however, I think it may be an artifact of the JPEG compression. I use to work with images alot, and depending on the amount of compression, you could see this artifacting being introduced onto documents that were compressed from a RAW image, or higher quality Jpeg.


That is an artifact of compression.
1,413 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:52 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: rodguy911

Can’t seem to tear myself away. LOL!!
Was planning on laundery and watching the race this rainy day in WV, but the weather doesn’t look good for the race and I haven’t even started sorting clothes yet! Oh well, there’s always tomorrow. LOL!!


1,414 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:56 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: NoGrayZone

Yes, I do believe this is a possibility.


1,415 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:00 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: razbinn

May I add that she used this to become his Secretary of State and put Rahm Emmanuel in as Chief of Staff along with other Clintonites. That might have made him go the Czar route as he is surrounded by Clintonites. Remember that lunche had with Bill — Bill was grinning from ear to ear after having lunch with someone he couldn’t stand. Cat that swallowed the canary.


1,416 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:32 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: waxer1
“Of course the speaker of the house (Nancy Pelosi) will have to step in as temporary president.”

Then we'll have to establish a PSOTUS (Plastic Surgeon of the United States)

1,417 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:32 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"...this country is in the shape it is in today because of the generally lazy American Public..."

Politics and a full stomach rarely go hand-in-hand. Perhaps, now that the food on our tables and the roofs over our heads are finally being threatened with elimination by the obama-pelosi-reid axis, we will at last wake up.

JG

1,418 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:52 AM PDT by Jacksonian Grouch (God has granted us Freedom; we owe Him our courage in return)
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To: palmer

The font looks just like the keys of my old Underwood manual typewriter up in the attic so for kicks, I looked up Underwood font.

Got this.

http://www.dafont.com/underwood1913.font


1,419 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: rintense
I'm just guessing of course,but if Hillary thought she could not stop the acorn/chicago mob/soros juggernaut behind zero and chose not to produce the doc,her next problem would be how to be relevant for the next four years.

It's possible she had a sit down with zero showed him what she had,and then bribed him to come across with Sec. of State and dough(it's a stretch I know) and we have what we have.

That would certainly explain how zero has tried to neutralize her as Sec state by placing strategic envoys in several hot bed situations around the world.

But who really knows.

1,420 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Nasher
If this document is proven authentic then it's game over for zero. He's cooked.

HOW? Nan Piglosi is going to bring up articles of IMPEACHMENT? I would say that will NEVER EVER happen for the First White and Black biracial President ever in the USA. SCOTUS wouldn't touch this for that very reason. We are screwed, and America has been destroyed. IMHO THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THIS TRAVESTY - THE SOLUTION WAS WHEN THE ELECORIAL COLLEGE VOTED.
1,421 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:55 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: livius
"I think it will probably not get very far beyond Free Republic, alas."

Remember, there were people stating the "birther movement" wouldn't get far beyond FR either...... now it's all they can talk about.

1,422 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:16 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: mkmensinger

That’s great...LOL


1,423 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:22 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: palmer
My opinion is that when the Hawaiian official said "Hawaiian born" she meant that there is actual paperwork with that, not a "late filing" with a falsely stated Hawaiian birth.

When did a Hawaiian official break the law by revealing information from a birth certificate?
1,424 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:23 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: NoGrayZone
Oh the implications are huge. It can't be Hillary appointed because there's no guarantee she would have won. If anything, it would be McCain since votes were cast for him. Hey! Maybe that's why Sarah resigned! She knew she'd be VP anyway! ;)

Seriously though, the ramifications of this are just horrible to think about. The good thing would be BO gone from office. The bad thing would be the crisis afterward.

1,425 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:30 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: MrDem
I think Obozo crossed the red line with his dis of her on the Russia trip and now Hillary tastes blood in the water with his poll numbers plummeting.

Well, you know what they say. Old age and treachery will beat youth and skill, every time.

1,426 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:40 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TheBigIf

We don’t know as this is legitimate so I wouldn’t “torment” anyone with it. And the BC isn’t the only issue. He has concealed most of his life.


1,427 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: mkmensinger

Botox Czar.


1,428 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:43 AM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Oh I’d like to see them appoint Hillary as President. This country would erupt!


1,429 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:51 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: nufsed

> I dyslexic am.
I ma os.


1,430 posted on 08/02/2009 8:34:34 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: Jim Noble
I don't think Atty. Taitz claims to have the paper. I don't believe the physical document has been shown, or even claimed, to exist.

We're discussing an image - that's all.

Giving it pretty much the same status as the FactChuck document so often sited as "proof" he was born in Hawaii...

1,431 posted on 08/02/2009 8:34:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Salamander

Thanks for the link. The numbers do match at all (1, 5, 6, 9). We’ll have to look elsewhere...


1,432 posted on 08/02/2009 8:35:01 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, a pattern of deception like unto those used by actual hard core communists. Hmmmm? It makes one wonder if there is indeed substance to the accusation, even one has thought the label was hyperbole.


1,433 posted on 08/02/2009 8:36:48 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: rxsid

bookmark


1,434 posted on 08/02/2009 8:36:56 AM PDT by smedley64 (I was terrified of Obama. Now I'm just pissed.)
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To: rintense

Amen! It would just get us there sooner, rather than later.


1,435 posted on 08/02/2009 8:36:58 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I am not torturing them based solely on this bit of breaking news but on the issue as a whole.

One of them was telling me that they do not support having private documents released at all based upon conspiracy theories.

So I posted a pic of McCain’s BC and asked if they were against the democrats when they forced McCain to release his BC to the Congress and American public.

So far no answer.


1,436 posted on 08/02/2009 8:37:01 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Jim Noble

So far, I am very skeptical of this document, for a couple of reasons.

I’m not declaring it a fake yet, but I’m very skeptical.


1,437 posted on 08/02/2009 8:37:03 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: penelopesire

Thank you, penelopesire! :-D


1,438 posted on 08/02/2009 8:37:42 AM PDT by retrokitten (I want to rock your gypsy soul just like way back in the days of old...- Into the Mystic)
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To: LucyT; Polarik

Did they use a shilling to emboss it?

Where did this come from?


1,439 posted on 08/02/2009 8:37:56 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Very well said and I agree.


1,440 posted on 08/02/2009 8:38:09 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: rodguy911
I'm just guessing of course,but if Hillary thought she could not stop the acorn/chicago mob/soros juggernaut behind zero and chose not to produce the doc,her next problem would be how to be relevant for the next four years.

Simple. Strong arm or sweet talk Bidet into having her as Veep.

If Bidet leaves the presidency on 7/21/10 for "health" reasons, she serves out his term and is still eligible for two full terms!

Ten years of President Hillary!™

Be still my throbbing heart!

1,441 posted on 08/02/2009 8:38:36 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
Giving it pretty much the same status as the FactChuck document so often sited as "proof" he was born in Hawaii..

Except the factcheck photos are much higher quality (contrary to the red herring posted early in the thread which is not from factcheck). The other difference is that factcheck photos are photos of a modern document which is a little easier to forge (being created with modern equipment). This photo is a photo of an old document that would be harder to forge and so a forgery will be easier to detect (just like Rathergate).

1,442 posted on 08/02/2009 8:38:57 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: rodguy911

If she had the goods on him she’d be president.NO DOUBT


1,443 posted on 08/02/2009 8:39:01 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: John Valentine
“The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document."

Well, that's just great. Wonder where the actual hard copy document is, and how they're going to "recover" it?

More questions...sheeesh...

1,444 posted on 08/02/2009 8:39:33 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: palmer

If the attic weren’t full of cranky wasps, I’d go up and check what real Underwood number keys look like.

[it’s raining and they’re all staying inside for the day]

That’s just one Underwood font, though.

There are lots of them.

I would imagine that one of them truly replicates the old typewriter.

http://www.fonthaus.com/products/fonts/view.cfm/sku/VT10050

Totally different style numbers on this one.


1,445 posted on 08/02/2009 8:40:05 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: rodguy911
I think Hillary had the docs before the primaries but by then the obmamania was in full force and zero was already playing the race card in a huge way so she may have thought it was too late,hard to say.

I believe hill knew there was no way the bambibots would let her get away with eliminating bambi, even if he wasn't legally qualified to be the president.
They'd get even.

I'm sure she also knows that everyone despises her.
Including most of the people in the house and senate.

I believe the biggest thing that frightens her is sanfranan stealing her thunder.
Vp nancy is hills nightmare.

On the other hand, here's a side note to joe...
Sarah is bright and articulate, and sqeaky clean. *hs*
1,446 posted on 08/02/2009 8:40:42 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: DJ MacWoW
He has concealed most of his life

Exactly, were it not for that the BC controversy would probably have faded away. But this is a Manchurian who hides every facet of his life on this planet and continues to scrub the web with the vigilance of the Clinton machine of anything that will make him look bad.

People like that are always on the run alway hiding stuff. It's up to us to find out what.

1,447 posted on 08/02/2009 8:40:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: livius
I think it will probably not get very far beyond Free Republic

Than email the link to everyone on your list before it disappears.

1,448 posted on 08/02/2009 8:40:54 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Everyone signing up after Nov 28, 1997 is a newbie.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Where did you find that? It seems very important.


1,449 posted on 08/02/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: carcraft
his birth certificate and Obama was qualified to be president.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They have been careful not to use the word “birth certificate”. They refer consistently to “vital records”.

The words “natural born” have never appeared on any citizen's birth documents since the creation of our Republic. ( I'd bet my 401K on that).

And a physician has NO authority, experience, or education to declare anyone a natural born citizen. She has no access to many of Obama’s adult records that would be needed to make this determination. Neither does anyone else in an official capacity in Hawaii!

Their pronouncements are carefully worded obfuscations designed to mislead without actually lying.

1,450 posted on 08/02/2009 8:41:21 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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