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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Wow,that’s a scary scenario.
In my opinion you are wrong. The House is tasked with determining the eligibility of the person receiving the most Electorial College votes for President. If he is found to have been ineligible the person receiving the second amount would be President. I've been saying that would be Biden, but I may be wrong. It use to be that the runner up was Vice President. Now the Vice President is "appointed" as a runningmate. I don't know how he does or does not go through the Electorial College.
In any case either Biden or Mccain would be elected and sworn in as President. There is no contemplation of another election.
Not with regard to succession, they aren't.
Joseph Robinette Biden of Delaware, born in Pennsylvania to two American citizens, 66 years old and resident in Delaware for at least the past 14 years, received 365 votes from duly chosen Electors for Vice President of the United States, and his election to that position was confirmed by the Special Joint Session of Congress convened for that purpose.
So, to answer this question for the umpteenth time, Biden would unquestionably become President if the person who calls himself "Barack Obama" no longer was in the office.
And as far as the further absurdity that, because he was "picked" by Obama (he wasn't) or that the "ticket" was illegal, he was chosen in the proper manner by the Democratic National Convention, and "tickets" or "running mates" do not exist in the Constitution.
Sure would be a welcome thing. It's really hard to keep track of every development in this case.
As Ford did for Nixon.
Only if no one has 270 or more votes.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”
I do not go with the “it was in the local paper”
Reason is that I have family in the UK and I put AD’s in the local paper there for my family to see so that point is mute to me.
Now we look at the birth records.
I honestly do not know if he is or not but not showing them is a serious question which needs ot be addressed.
Now did his mother maybe come back form there and want to say for ever in HI, yes I bet she did but she wanted her son to stay in HI too and the only way TO do that is readmit the paper work once she lands in HI get HI to recognise her son is an American so he does not live his life as an illegal.
There are too many questions about this and they need to be addressed.
Here's what I do think for sure.
There is a group who has been working behind the scenes for many years.
Ayers and his ilk knew that violence was never going to take this country over so the best way is to do what Hitler did and what Marx said.
Get into positions of power and influence
What better position than the presidency.
For years the group behind the scenes worked to erase his past and work on him .
The Dem convention was his coming out day and it went well with the media portraying this great man etc.
Did you ever notice on his first week he was signing Exec orders and tat day he was doing 3 of them.
One reporter shouted out what eh was signing and he had no clue , he couldn't answer. It was a voice at the back which shouted out he answer
Bozo has no clue , he is a puppet for his masters and the media follow blindly as sheep do.
This just hit me! didn’t Obama write in one of his books that he found his BC locked in an attic or something, and he looked at it and then put back away. Maybe this is it!
” God, am I ever sorry that I even tried to help in the first place “
I’ll bet when you were trying to help you didn’t see this coming.
Does that mean you have to change your tag now?
Sorry. I couldn’t resist.
LOL!!! Oh my you’re “bad”! LOL
Scroll to between 1/2 to 2/3 of the way down.
“We all converged on Honolulu a month after he was born there (no, not in a manger!) and knewwell or in passinghis father, though most of us then had no idea there was a baby.”
Interesting that the writer makes a big deal back in 6/08 to make sure everyone knows he was born in Hawaii. Even more interesting that most people didn’t know there was a baby. So, Ann wasn’t around her Hawaiian friends for them not to know or see that she was pregnant and where was she for the month after he was born?
Thanks for the link, it’s a much better match to the letters and the numbers.
Looks like it used the old cloth ribbons which got lighter the more they were used. I would say it was a manual typewriter the way it looks. My Mom had one of those which is what this looks like. I have an old electric typewriter and the type is totally different as it has the one and done ribbon. Hasn’t been used in years.
I have family in the UK and when my kids were born here I got AD’s put in the local papers in the UK to inform my family and for them to save the AD if they liked.
It amazes me how the left say this is a non issue based on an AD in a paper at that time
From personal experience in legal cases I can confirm that it is extremely difficult to pin down actual facts about such transitional periods of African countries as they changed from colonies to independent countries.
Well, I see the Libs are crawling out of the woodwork here.
They must really be scared Dr. Orly is on to something. LOL
Following the announcement in August that the Government would soon submit for approval a comprehensive set of amendments designed to transform Kenya into a Republic This Source Is Refering To August 1964: 3rd paragraph down - The Role Of The Senate In The Kenyan Political System - by J. H. Proctor, Jr.
Then there is this entry in Wikipedia on Jomo Kenyatta under Leadership (5th paragraph down.)
On June 1, 1964, Kenyatta became President when he successfully had Parliament amend the Constitution to make Kenya a republic with his office becoming executive President: the head of State, head of Government, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
I dont put a lot of faith in Wiki but it was this entry that had me looking elsewhere to confirm. I still have found nothing about the June 1, 1964 event.
NYT article from Aug. 15, 1964 Kenyan Leader Announces Plans for Republic
Biden would not be President. He would be temporarily but McCain would be the legally elected President since Bozo would be proved a fraud and all his votes would be thrown out. Still, this could benefit Hillary, she could use it to go through the dimwit party and have many of her enemies tossed out of the party or jailed as being complicit in out right voter fraud. She would be in good standing in 2012 if such was the case.
I can't wait to see where this goes next! Hopefully it is the real deal but not holding my breath. It is fun though and Monday the when the SHTF it should be interesting. Can't wait to hear Rush.
Maybe the source for this document was the UK?
Is the year 1964 significant in Kenya’s history?
Kenya’s independence would’ve given cause for an avalanche of work; copying birth records by both the UK and Kenyan government personnel.
It's a copy (certification) of the originally filed birth certificate. It is rather like the Hawaiian COLB that's been floating around dated 2007. This one however, appears to be of the appropriate age, it wants closer scrutiny by forensic documentation experts to verify it is what it appears to be.
This is much too vital a piece of paper to go out on a limb for without having possession.
I highly agree, and am hugely disappointed that she doesn't appear to have ready access to the original.
Having said that, she does indicate that the document can be "recovered". The question is, from who? I just can't imagine that she would go so far as to file this suit, if she (and others) didn't believe that they actually can do this.
aruanan ~ When did a Hawaiian official break the law by revealing information from a birth certificate?
Palmer knows full well that no Hawaii official has ever said that he's Hawaiian born, only that the proper paperwork in on file.
You dont FILE for independence~ You Declare it. Kenya Declared Independence on December 12th, 1963 when they ratified their Constitution (Check the first 350 posts, you missed the discussion this morning). The Republic was ratified in 1964 but they operated as such until it was ratified.
That’s not what “second sight” really means in the ancient, Celtic sense.
You’re referring to premonitions or prescience.
And no, I didn’t see it coming but should have.
All I can say [again] is that I am SO sorry if I made FReepers look like fools to the DU scum.
Still, a great find, Red_Devil.
That makes total sense because picking Biden made ZERO sense except he sure couldn’t show up ZERO.
It says on the bottom it's a true copy of the original. The original was 61, the copy of it printed and signed in 64?
“Is this the birth certificate that in his book Dreams, he said he found folded up along with an article about his father and his vaccination records?”
That’s what I am wondering...I wonder if Obama’s Kenyan Grandma is behind the release all this...trying to prove to the world that she indeed was there in Kenya when he was born! lol
The election was a fraud to begin with. Would it not make sense to have the election over again? I think politically speaking that it would be to the conservatives advantage. Everybody will (and rightfully so) be so incensed by the fact that the liberals tried to pull a fast one on the American Public. The dupes in the electorate not withstanding.
If this document is the real deal so to speak, what a Constitutional crisis this is going to create. I mean we can speculate all we want but in the end what is the remedy?
If I stay useful here, maybe in about 10 years, I’ll absolve myself.
Sometimes colonies have been decreed free by the colonizer (read evil imperialist), so that it is known that on a certain date the independence would be official.
They higher quality images were pulled from FactChuck and replaced with lower resolution images as soon as Polarik started taking a close look at them.
But you already knew that didn't you?
That’s true. As I keep saying, I’m just afraid to get my hopes up. There seem to be so many forces lined up against an attempt to get at the simple truth.
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Wonder how many folks at the WH are viewing this thread...lol? Has anyone checked DU? They are probably having a cow right now.
Ah, I never said Biden wouldn’t be President. My point was, if for some reason he wasn’t, it wouldn’t be Hillary either. But he would likely pick her as his VP, which brings Arkancide to the table again.
Liberal to the max....so many buzzwords in one statement.
Thank you for the reminder; that is very useful.
Interesting thing about this document. It states where in the Province’s Birth Register the original birth notice document can be found: Book 442, Page 5735 (if I’m seeing it right).
Should be pretty easy to establish if it’s a forgery.
You got me all worked up over that fake BC. There’s so many of them floating around right now I can’t keep track!
I think skepticism is warranted in believing that this document is real. It sure does look authentic. The ink is faded. It’s been folded multiple times over a period of years, looking at the raggedness of the folds. It does look to have been typewritten.