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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: null and void

Wow,that’s a scary scenario.


1,451 posted on 08/02/2009 8:42:12 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: waxer1
I am no expert, but if this document turns out to be authentic, then the whole election has to be declared null and void and we will have to have another election. To me, this seems to be the only option.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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In my opinion you are wrong. The House is tasked with determining the eligibility of the person receiving the most Electorial College votes for President. If he is found to have been ineligible the person receiving the second amount would be President. I've been saying that would be Biden, but I may be wrong. It use to be that the runner up was Vice President. Now the Vice President is "appointed" as a runningmate. I don't know how he does or does not go through the Electorial College.

In any case either Biden or Mccain would be elected and sworn in as President. There is no contemplation of another election.

1,452 posted on 08/02/2009 8:42:33 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: aruanan
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1,453 posted on 08/02/2009 8:42:39 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: rintense
Oh the implications are huge

Not with regard to succession, they aren't.

Joseph Robinette Biden of Delaware, born in Pennsylvania to two American citizens, 66 years old and resident in Delaware for at least the past 14 years, received 365 votes from duly chosen Electors for Vice President of the United States, and his election to that position was confirmed by the Special Joint Session of Congress convened for that purpose.

So, to answer this question for the umpteenth time, Biden would unquestionably become President if the person who calls himself "Barack Obama" no longer was in the office.

And as far as the further absurdity that, because he was "picked" by Obama (he wasn't) or that the "ticket" was illegal, he was chosen in the proper manner by the Democratic National Convention, and "tickets" or "running mates" do not exist in the Constitution.

1,454 posted on 08/02/2009 8:43:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: nufsed
We need an archivist on this issue.

Sure would be a welcome thing. It's really hard to keep track of every development in this case.

1,455 posted on 08/02/2009 8:43:58 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bikkuri
It just occurred to me that if Biden were sworn in as his replacement, then he would turn around and pardon hussain...

As Ford did for Nixon.

1,456 posted on 08/02/2009 8:43:58 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: politicalmerc
The House is tasked with determining the eligibility of the person receiving the most Electorial College votes for President

Only if no one has 270 or more votes.

1,457 posted on 08/02/2009 8:44:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: aruanan

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”


1,458 posted on 08/02/2009 8:44:40 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: autumnraine
agree with that.

I do not go with the “it was in the local paper”
Reason is that I have family in the UK and I put AD’s in the local paper there for my family to see so that point is mute to me.

Now we look at the birth records.
I honestly do not know if he is or not but not showing them is a serious question which needs ot be addressed.
Now did his mother maybe come back form there and want to say for ever in HI, yes I bet she did but she wanted her son to stay in HI too and the only way TO do that is readmit the paper work once she lands in HI get HI to recognise her son is an American so he does not live his life as an illegal.

There are too many questions about this and they need to be addressed.

Here's what I do think for sure.
There is a group who has been working behind the scenes for many years.
Ayers and his ilk knew that violence was never going to take this country over so the best way is to do what Hitler did and what Marx said.
Get into positions of power and influence
What better position than the presidency.
For years the group behind the scenes worked to erase his past and work on him .
The Dem convention was his coming out day and it went well with the media portraying this great man etc.

Did you ever notice on his first week he was signing Exec orders and tat day he was doing 3 of them.
One reporter shouted out what eh was signing and he had no clue , he couldn't answer. It was a voice at the back which shouted out he answer

Bozo has no clue , he is a puppet for his masters and the media follow blindly as sheep do.

1,459 posted on 08/02/2009 8:44:53 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: novemberslady
Agreed,I wonder as well about the loyalty of former clintoinistas like rhambo now in the zero adm. I doubt their loyalty extends back to bill/hill. I think they just tolerated them for whatever power they could garner is back in the 90’s.
1,460 posted on 08/02/2009 8:45:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Fred Nerks

This just hit me! didn’t Obama write in one of his books that he found his BC locked in an attic or something, and he looked at it and then put back away. Maybe this is it!


1,461 posted on 08/02/2009 8:45:35 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: LucyT; null and void; mojitojoe
Very interesting Ping, in case no one else has yet
1,462 posted on 08/02/2009 8:45:57 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Salamander

” God, am I ever sorry that I even tried to help in the first place “

I’ll bet when you were trying to help you didn’t see this coming.

Does that mean you have to change your tag now?

Sorry. I couldn’t resist.


1,463 posted on 08/02/2009 8:46:05 AM PDT by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: TheBigIf

LOL!!! Oh my you’re “bad”! LOL


1,464 posted on 08/02/2009 8:46:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Houghton M.

Scroll to between 1/2 to 2/3 of the way down.

“We all converged on Honolulu a month after he was born there (no, not in a manger!) and knew—well or in passing—his father, though most of us then had no idea there was a baby.”

Interesting that the writer makes a big deal back in 6/08 to make sure everyone knows he was born in Hawaii. Even more interesting that most people didn’t know there was a baby. So, Ann wasn’t around her Hawaiian friends for them not to know or see that she was pregnant and where was she for the month after he was born?

http://cambodiana.org/MainreasonsofmysupportofObama.aspx


1,465 posted on 08/02/2009 8:46:17 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Salamander

Thanks for the link, it’s a much better match to the letters and the numbers.


1,466 posted on 08/02/2009 8:46:50 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: rodguy911

Absolutely.


1,467 posted on 08/02/2009 8:47:05 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: snowsislander

Looks like it used the old cloth ribbons which got lighter the more they were used. I would say it was a manual typewriter the way it looks. My Mom had one of those which is what this looks like. I have an old electric typewriter and the type is totally different as it has the one and done ribbon. Hasn’t been used in years.


1,468 posted on 08/02/2009 8:47:08 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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1,469 posted on 08/02/2009 8:47:10 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

I have family in the UK and when my kids were born here I got AD’s put in the local papers in the UK to inform my family and for them to save the AD if they liked.

It amazes me how the left say this is a non issue based on an AD in a paper at that time


1,470 posted on 08/02/2009 8:47:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: SpaceBar

From personal experience in legal cases I can confirm that it is extremely difficult to pin down actual facts about such transitional periods of African countries as they changed from colonies to independent countries.


1,471 posted on 08/02/2009 8:47:51 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: All

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Well, I see the Libs are crawling out of the woodwork here.
They must really be scared Dr. Orly is on to something. LOL

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1,472 posted on 08/02/2009 8:48:21 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Electric Graffiti; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
There is some evidence that Kenya was preparing to become a Republic prior to the official event on Dec. 12, 1964.

“Following the announcement in August that the Government would soon submit for approval a comprehensive set of amendments designed to transform Kenya into a Republic …” This Source Is Refering To August 1964: 3rd paragraph down - The Role Of The Senate In The Kenyan Political System - by J. H. Proctor, Jr.

Then there is this entry in Wikipedia on Jomo Kenyatta under Leadership (5th paragraph down.)

On June 1, 1964, Kenyatta became President when he successfully had Parliament amend the Constitution to make Kenya a republic with his office becoming executive President: the head of State, head of Government, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

I don’t put a lot of faith in Wiki but it was this entry that had me looking elsewhere to confirm. I still have found nothing about the June 1, 1964 event.

NYT article from Aug. 15, 1964 Kenyan Leader Announces Plans for Republic

1,473 posted on 08/02/2009 8:48:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: rintense
I don’t see how this benefits her. Biden would be President, not her. He could, of course, name her as VP. But how stupid is Biden? oh, wait...

Biden would not be President. He would be temporarily but McCain would be the legally elected President since Bozo would be proved a fraud and all his votes would be thrown out. Still, this could benefit Hillary, she could use it to go through the dimwit party and have many of her enemies tossed out of the party or jailed as being complicit in out right voter fraud. She would be in good standing in 2012 if such was the case.

I can't wait to see where this goes next! Hopefully it is the real deal but not holding my breath. It is fun though and Monday the when the SHTF it should be interesting. Can't wait to hear Rush.

1,474 posted on 08/02/2009 8:48:40 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: PhiKapMom

Maybe the source for this document was the UK?

Is the year 1964 significant in Kenya’s history?

Kenya’s independence would’ve given cause for an avalanche of work; copying birth records by both the UK and Kenyan government personnel.


1,475 posted on 08/02/2009 8:48:46 AM PDT by freepersup (!)
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To: Danae
Why was it signed by the official in 1964?

It's a copy (certification) of the originally filed birth certificate. It is rather like the Hawaiian COLB that's been floating around dated 2007. This one however, appears to be of the appropriate age, it wants closer scrutiny by forensic documentation experts to verify it is what it appears to be.

Regards,
GtG

1,476 posted on 08/02/2009 8:49:09 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: SE Mom
If Orly doesn’t have possession of the doc, then authentication is impossible.

This is much too vital a piece of paper to go out on a limb for without having possession.

I highly agree, and am hugely disappointed that she doesn't appear to have ready access to the original.

Having said that, she does indicate that the document can be "recovered". The question is, from who? I just can't imagine that she would go so far as to file this suit, if she (and others) didn't believe that they actually can do this.

1,477 posted on 08/02/2009 8:49:13 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: aruanan; palmer
palmer ~ My opinion is that when the Hawaiian official said "Hawaiian born"

aruanan ~ When did a Hawaiian official break the law by revealing information from a birth certificate?

Palmer knows full well that no Hawaii official has ever said that he's Hawaiian born, only that the proper paperwork in on file.

1,478 posted on 08/02/2009 8:49:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: autumnraine

You dont FILE for independence~ You Declare it. Kenya Declared Independence on December 12th, 1963 when they ratified their Constitution (Check the first 350 posts, you missed the discussion this morning). The Republic was ratified in 1964 but they operated as such until it was ratified.


1,479 posted on 08/02/2009 8:50:13 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: bluescape; All

That’s not what “second sight” really means in the ancient, Celtic sense.

You’re referring to premonitions or prescience.

And no, I didn’t see it coming but should have.

All I can say [again] is that I am SO sorry if I made FReepers look like fools to the DU scum.


1,480 posted on 08/02/2009 8:51:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Still, a great find, Red_Devil.


1,481 posted on 08/02/2009 8:51:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks. Don't do many rants anymore but this one has me annoyed. The more detractors the more I think there is a pony behind the poo pile.
1,482 posted on 08/02/2009 8:51:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: autumnraine

That makes total sense because picking Biden made ZERO sense except he sure couldn’t show up ZERO.


1,483 posted on 08/02/2009 8:51:47 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Salamander

bkmrk


1,484 posted on 08/02/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by IrishPennant (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. ~Aesop)
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To: snowsislander
The document itself purports to be from 1964, and it shows an ostensible Obama birth in 1961.

It says on the bottom it's a true copy of the original. The original was 61, the copy of it printed and signed in 64?

1,485 posted on 08/02/2009 8:52:18 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: mojitojoe

“Is this the birth certificate that in his book Dreams, he said he found folded up along with an article about his father and his vaccination records?”

That’s what I am wondering...I wonder if Obama’s Kenyan Grandma is behind the release all this...trying to prove to the world that she indeed was there in Kenya when he was born! lol


1,486 posted on 08/02/2009 8:52:22 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: politicalmerc
Assuming that this document is in fact the real deal:

The election was a fraud to begin with. Would it not make sense to have the election over again? I think politically speaking that it would be to the conservatives advantage. Everybody will (and rightfully so) be so incensed by the fact that the liberals tried to pull a fast one on the American Public. The dupes in the electorate not withstanding.

If this document is the real deal so to speak, what a Constitutional crisis this is going to create. I mean we can speculate all we want but in the end what is the remedy?

1,487 posted on 08/02/2009 8:52:33 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: palmer

You’re welcome.

If I stay useful here, maybe in about 10 years, I’ll absolve myself.


1,488 posted on 08/02/2009 8:52:44 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: politicalmerc
The question I have about Kenya is : Did Britain declare in advance they would be and independent country?

Sometimes colonies have been decreed free by the colonizer (read evil imperialist), so that it is known that on a certain date the independence would be official.

1,489 posted on 08/02/2009 8:53:30 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: Windflier
It can be recovered from Ebay, from that dude in Cedar Rapids Iowa. Will only set you back $1,000,000.00.
1,490 posted on 08/02/2009 8:53:36 AM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: palmer; Polarik
Except the factcheck photos are much higher quality

They higher quality images were pulled from FactChuck and replaced with lower resolution images as soon as Polarik started taking a close look at them.

But you already knew that didn't you?

1,491 posted on 08/02/2009 8:53:51 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: NoGrayZone

That’s true. As I keep saying, I’m just afraid to get my hopes up. There seem to be so many forces lined up against an attempt to get at the simple truth.


1,492 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: rodguy911

Thread view count as of now: 42,439+ views

Wonder how many folks at the WH are viewing this thread...lol? Has anyone checked DU? They are probably having a cow right now.


1,493 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:28 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Jim Noble

Ah, I never said Biden wouldn’t be President. My point was, if for some reason he wasn’t, it wouldn’t be Hillary either. But he would likely pick her as his VP, which brings Arkancide to the table again.


1,494 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:32 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Liberal to the max....so many buzzwords in one statement.


1,495 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:44 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (I piddy da foo if JimmyT zots you!)
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To: rodguy911
A guy I know inside the Beltway says the whole broken elbow thing was faked. Not sure to what means but with Hillary - who knows.
1,496 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: surfer

Thank you for the reminder; that is very useful.


1,497 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:48 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: rxsid

Interesting thing about this document. It states where in the Province’s Birth Register the original birth notice document can be found: Book 442, Page 5735 (if I’m seeing it right).

Should be pretty easy to establish if it’s a forgery.


1,498 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:51 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Swordmaker

You got me all worked up over that fake BC. There’s so many of them floating around right now I can’t keep track!


1,499 posted on 08/02/2009 8:54:56 AM PDT by Deo volente (Will the real Birth Certificate please stand up?)
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To: Red Steel

I think skepticism is warranted in believing that this document is real. It sure does look authentic. The ink is faded. It’s been folded multiple times over a period of years, looking at the raggedness of the folds. It does look to have been typewritten.


1,500 posted on 08/02/2009 8:55:09 AM PDT by TheThinker
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