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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Hmmmm. Unable to view the document on that webpage.
I know that to be a fact. I got my first US passport in 1963, at the age of ten. My younger siblings, who were all under five years of age were on my mother's passport. I have a very clear memory of that.
I thought it was in Duthc! ;>)
Which world is that? I want to relocate!
She's 9 months pregnant and about to pop. And they're wandering around the coast sightseeing and lying on the beach? Also, who would fly halfway around the world in that condition? In 1961, would airlines even allow a woman who's that close to giving birth to take a flight like that? How many hours would a flight from Hawaii to Kenya even be?
It weighs 40 pounds....are you kidding?....:))
Read it again. This copy states the birth was registered Aug. 5, 1961 (the day after Hussein was born) and was filed into the record books Aug. 9th.
Ann filed for divorce in Jan. '64 and it was finalized Mar. '64. It makes sense Ann or Sr. or the court needed to verify Hussein as their kid so obtained this copy in Feb. '64.
Your right, it was very odd how CNN/MSNBC/FOX and others picked up on this almost a year and a half old story just last week.
I thought the same thing. A post way back in the 200’s showed the final divorce decree was on March 20th, 1964, just after this document.
Agree wholeheartedly. See Post #1168.
Bump for later
*If* it doesn’t show up on the news, maybe then I’ll forgive myself.
Of course not.
Wanna bet. McCain and the others ran against someone ineligible. Unfair election. This is the very reason that Keyes has standing.
1964 can be triangulated in a number of ways. Makes sense, and lends an air of credibility to the document. I realize it's yet to be proven authentic.
I read a few hundred posts from the newest posts, first, (tail end of the thread) and a few hundred posts from the beginning, last. The thread is moving at warp speed... hard to keep up.
Who said anything about giving birth in a village? Did you even read my post? Nairobi is the capital and the largest city in Kenya, with many hospitals. It is in the center of the country. Obama's home village is in the far west of the country. Mombasa is in the far east, on the coast. Why travel all the way to Mombasa to give birth? Nairobi seems the more logical choice.
What was Hatch thinking?
My opinion is that the fact his father was not a U. S. citizen precludes BHO II from being a natural born citizen, so his place of birth is irrelevant.
‘Chops’ refers to actual real-life ability, not to degrees and stuff. So, NO, you can’t pretend to be a document expert. Either you are or you’re not.
I agree the “vital records” wording is vague and suspicious. I disagree about spending the money. It isn’t his money, it belongs to the campaign and there is tons of it. If he needs more somebody will donate more.
You just knew there was some reason why they were in all-out-war mode the past couple of weeks. Something was coming around the corner that they were scared witless over.
I think ALL of us are just grasping at straws here. There is nothing in the Constitution, that I know of anyway, that states what we the people should do in the case of a fraudulent election.
It does cover what should happen if POTUS can no longer "perform" as POTUS, but nothing about a usurper.
Question: if these people are so diabolically clever in the plots they hatch, why is the legislation they promote so stupid, chaotic, and undesirable among the general public?
Breaking news can move at warp speed on a forum like this. People need to realize that Drudge and others might be waiting to see what confirmation comes out about this birth certificate before they do anything. Further, when a coverup is this shocking, please take my word on this — some people will refuse to believe it if they saw it with their own eyes. Just try a search on:
“Kathleen Janoski” Cogswell Parsons Hause
... and you will see what I mean.
Interesting.. didn't know that. So Grandma Sara (said witness) could have traveled with them? How far? and there were other hospitals closer? Hmmm
Thanks. I’m apparently a week behind.
Go Dr. Orly!!!
Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!
Let’s get behind this patriot and help her!
RE: Second link....gives a very good Image....and I see this is a Certified Copy...made in 1964....
So thanks very much....
So it will be interesting to see how Obama's defenders will attack all of this....
Yes I read your post. It’s pure speculation. There could be any number of resaons for being in Mombassa. Your hypothetical is a strawman that you posed and expect others to explain away.
I had gotten up from my sleep and headed to the computer to just read. A couple of hours later, I was just about to shut down, and decided to check FR one last time. Shouldn'ta done that.
I made my first post at #24 at 4:00 AM, and haven't left the thread yet.
I tell you, I am bushed. Yeah, might as well blame him for it. LOL
If (and that's a big if) the document is authentic, the divorce angle would be a good one to explore, as it is very possible that someone in Kenya plucked it from some public records, or perhaps a familiy member came across it in Obama senior's affects.
If we can get a date on Durham and Obama seniors divorce and this document was produced just before then, it would make sense.
Thank you for your efforts...
“My guess is that she is going to the UK (where the back up records are kept) and possibly to Kenya.”
Interestingly, Kenya National Archives are also kept at Syracuse University Library. http://library.syr.edu/research/internet/africa/KenyaNationalArchivesmicrofilm.html
Good point about Nairobi, I should have looked at a map. But it’s certainly possible that Baby Barack made an early appearance. Did they have relatives in Mombasa that they might have been visiting?
Here’s a map, for anyone interested. Obama’s home village, and where his grandmother lives, is on the northern edge of Lake Victoria, sort of near that village of “Kisumu” on the map, though a little west of it. Nairobi, the capital city with many hospitals, is in the center of the map, near the “A109” designation. Mombasa is on the far right of the map, right on the coast.
I know! His enemies knew he would be president some day, and ordered a trumped up copy of a birth certificate in Kenya so they would be able to discredit him 45 years later! /s
On the way to the airport and didn't quite make it?
Yeah, they aren’t so bright really, are they? They lie to themselves so much that they think they can get away with anything. People back when O was born had no clue what was going to happen in the Information Age. By the time O was ready to run, his dreams were far beyond any chance of asking himself if he should really pull it off.
If it is clearly found that Obama is ineligible and the Dems refuse to remove him instead of trying to control the damage, there will be a revolt. The military clearly will not follow his orders. If the powers to be refuse to remove him the people will. Somebody will got up to him like they did to Nixon and give him a choice. Pardon will be his only hope and he will step down in return for that, which I find extremely distasteful. His secretiveness is evidence of knowledge of wrongdoing.
I am not saying this is the real thing, but at least it is a good starting point to demand his long form BC and if he was not born in a hospital the doubt magnifies immensely. We go from there. Witnesses,hospital records, the books in Kenya and England etc. There are other documents that can be used as collaborating evidence. I am concerned that this could be a decoy to take the heat off the natural born citizen requirement, and that the Kenyan BC is a fraud and the MSM will scream enough is enough. I don’t want US to be outplayed in this high stakes game of D.C. hold em.
Thanks, null and void.
As I read this it’s already up to over 1630+ posts....gotta read faster.
Probably ignoring this wild speculation and wishful thinking until someone actually analyzes the document. It's funny how quickly the factcheck stuff got quickly attacked in all sorts of ways and here people can't mention the word "font" even after 1000 posts. The proportional "font" problem in the Rather documents was obvious, since there were no reasonable machines capable of proportional spacing that would have been available to produce such transitory documents. What appears to be the typewritten font here isn't proportional. Other than that, with such a poor quality image, it would be hard to look for traditional problems such as a damaged element on the typewriter, where you might see, for instance, a "m" consistently deformed. The typewritten portion appears to line up in a manner that I would have expected from using a typewriter. It appears to me to be a bit light, perhaps, which might be consistent with older manual typewriter. I do notice that the typist used the very common convention of capitalizing last names. There might be some obvious problem with the typewritten portion, but I don't see one. I think that the most interesting part isn't so much analyzing this document as getting its provenance and finding out about the referenced primary documents. Those are the real birth records that this document is putative certfication of. In the Rather case, the documents were an end product in themselves; in this case, the document is a pointer to other primary documents.I was thinking along the same lines... I have been following this (including salamander's edit/reedit prob that, honestly, I thought the same thing.. DU hade made a sloppy 'quikfix' to mess everything up... But I was able to see salamander come back and explain that she did it, and the reason why... Looking back through all of these posts... it's amazing people who log in read the first few posts.. then post opposition or at least a question that has already been explained more than 5-10 times... Read what is already there before you post an innocent (but already answered at least 2 or 3 times) question. I started reading this about 2100 hours (9pm for the peeps that don't understand that time value).. and am still trying to catch up (I have lived in Japan for the last 11+ years... my best news source IS FR)... OH.. and 1 more thing... sonic, you are NOT Jim Thompson.. errr.. Jim Robinson... He has the final say on what is legit on HIS website. I don't want to ruffle feathers.. but you are doing a good job on yourself. Bikk
Ok then I agree with your original statement: this sooner we prove or disprove this document, the better. I would add that it doesn’t matter which, but it will be easier to disprove than to prove since a forger can easily make a mistake creating an old document like that
It’s up now at WND:
You keep assuming that Obama Sr would take his new 18 year old plaything back to his original village. Now why would he do that if she didn't know that he was already married? DUH!
The Czars will not be pleased.
Naw , Klinton would have done ANYTHING to be president , ANYTHING. I think if she had the goods she would have found a way to release it and have her name not mentioned.
I think it quite possible that official documents began using the “Republic of Kenya” designation after independence was declared.
However, this is something that is be very easy to verify.