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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Those books might be his undoing. They are filled with coinflicting dates and obvious errors.
Thanks for the info. The typewritten characters should have darker and lighter portions within characters and from character to character and line to line. The printed characters should be much more consistent as this document shows. I am concerned that these look a little too consistent. But a high quality printing job was quite possible in that time and place.
They were an English colony.
Degree of Divorce
Congress does not agree, they agreed he was a natural born citizen or he wouldn’t have been running for President. This question came up in 2008 and was debunked, WITH VERIFIABLE DOCUMENTS, unlike Bozo who has shown absolutely no documents.
Plane crashes in Indonesia are as common as truck accidents here.
Not exactly. He can probably plead ignorance and have the media cover for him as assuming he was born in Hawaii. He can claim he didn’t know of the shenanigans his mother did to register the birth in the U.S.
One more point about that video:
It seems to me that the appearance of Ann and the baby in Seattle in August, 1961, is a crucial piece of this puzzle.
There is just no reasonable explanation for why she was in Washington state with a newborn, other than that he was born outside Hawaii. In 1961, a teenager didn’t simply didn’t jump on a plane with a brand-new baby in cloth diapers and jet off for a social visit.
Until this morning, I leaned toward a Seattle/British Columbia birthplace. If this paper is authentic, looks like she may have flown in from Africa. She apparently stayed in Seattle, for she was enrolled in school there that fall.
There is smoke there, always has been. It’s struck a discordant note ever since I heard it last summer.
Pardon the mixed metaphors, but you get the point.
The secret of his birth is tied to that Seattle summer ‘61 visit.
I don't make claims that cannot be backed by proof. Without authentication, Obamas Chicago machine will eat this alive.
Because someone (me) pointed out that it was the very first recorded itty-bitty baby Barack sighting, and it was 2500 miles away from Hawaii.
As such it is a clear indicator that he wasn't born in Hawaii, else the first sighting would be there, not on a plausible route to there...
This should be made to be the HUGE deal it really is. CONGRESS needs to get involved and settle this, once and for all!
No more MONEY to Kenya until they can prove or disprove this. As well, the DOJ, FBI, and Congress should subpoena Hawaii State officials and records.
By the time we declare the entire congress fools and kicking them out off office for not doing their sworn duty, we’ll likely end up with the head of janitorial supplies as POTUS. Which couldn’t be any worse than what we have now. Remember that movie King Ralph?
A usage more common in Britain than here but as used on the form it would include the name “Barack Hussein” with no problem. “Christian name” doesn’t exclude Muslim first or second names when used in that sense.
Just as I suspected.
The Cloward-Piven mindset is inherently self-dementing.
“Geeze! Surely an actual newspaper should exist somewhere.”
Just a wild guess, but you might try a libray. All you need is the area of interest and the approximate date, bet you can find many copies of the paper with the announcement, if it exists.
What a counterweight to Franken Keyes would be!
I made my first post at #24 at 4:00 AM, and haven't left the thread yet. I tell you, I am bushed. Yeah, might as well blame him for it. LOLSame here.. been trying to catch up for the last 6 1/2 hours.. :/ (almost 4am here)..
not true. dr. chiyome fukino said that he was born in hawaii in a statement just the other day.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago....”
it’s time to let it die. it’s just embarrassing.
How do you ‘see’ view counts?
(I’m a noob) 8(
So how do we make that happen....?
what are you implying about the indonesian plane? you think they were investigators?
Very interesting post. This is from the divorce decree?
There have been rumors because he has family in Kenya. He interfered in an election there as a Senator. The interference was on behalf of someone who claims to be Obamas cousin. There have been whispers for sometime. Birthplace didn’t matter as a Senator. The bar is higher for a US President.
I got the malware message on IE.
There is a possible connection...
Stanley Ann signed her divorce papers dated on 20th Jan, 1961, the divorce became final 2 months later in March 1961.
Welcome to FRee Republic, as a reminder we don’t use profanity over here like at DU, thanks and have a nice short visit!
See post 479.
However, the document is dated March, 1990, and may incorrectly refer to the name of the country in the prior agreement.
Otherwise, this suggests that the name "Republic of Kenya" was in use prior to December, 1964.
Under this interpretation of the Constitution you would soon have tyranny by the House of Representatives intimidating the president into obedience.the House of Representatives would have the exclusive power of impeachment which is constitutionally only to be shared with the Senate.
I simply do not think that eligibility can be determined more than once by this method. It may be that eligibility can never again be determined by any method. That is, even though someone got to be president by committing fraud, even fraud against the Constitution, he nevertheless committed that fraud before he became president. There is a strong body of constitutional scholarship that says the president can only be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while in office. Otherwise you would have the president being impeached for every misstep throughout his life and an opposition majority could tie a president up for his whole term.
I do not accept this argument but I am sure that the Democrats would make that argument and, like the Clinton impeachment, the idea is to kick up enough dust so that the public loses the thrust. I have outlined Bill Clinton's high crimes and misdemeanors in a previous post but the public saw it as merely a sex peccadillo and they did not wish to endanger their retirement accounts, so public opinion called for his acquittal and the Senate dutifully obliged. I agree with you that it is an anomaly to have a man in the oval office and have no constitutional or legal remedy to uphold the Constitution. That is the great principle and, as against this overwhelming truth, the idea that a high crime and misdemeanor must be committed in office as opposed to a means of getting in to office, must give way in any decent society.
One last caveat, I recall reading some very turgid article, perhaps a Law Review article, on the subject and it is not so simplistic as we are treating it.
As a senator his birthplace didn’t matter, but he had to be a US citizen for 14 years. I want to see his I-9 form.
Since it didn’t become a “Republic” until DECEMBER of 1964, and this document is dated FEBRUARY of 1964, I would think that they would still use the term “Dominion” on official paperwork. I think that’s the more reasonable explanation. It seems very unlikely to me that they would have printed up official documents with “Republic” about 11 months prior to the changeover.
Until that matter can be resolved to prove that the Kenyan gov’t did indeed use documents with “Republic” instead of “Dominion” before it officially happened, I would have to take that document as a hoax :-(
This thread is an insult to my intelligence.
The Republic of Kenya did not exist in February of 1961, let alone August of 1961.
Read up about the Colony of Kenya and the Dominion of Kenya.
What Freepers can come up with on the fly never ceases to amaze me!
Who cares what the left thinks? When have they ever had anything good to say about us? Sarah Palin is as straight as an arrow yet they bury her in crap on a daily basis.
I’ve always thought there are multiple ways to crosscheck things like this. Even Soros and The Ballerina cannot purge the world of ALL incriminating documents of B.O. They can’t destroy the web of information that would confirm or deny this document. The truth doesn’t need to always be looking over its shoulder, double checking everything. At some point, the pieces will all fall into place with regard to Anne’s whereabouts and the real BC. When revealed, they will fit perfectly together. With few exceptions, a person’s true BC is an objective document that has no agenda, and its facts are unassailable. It’s not as though Anne had presidential aspirations for her son, IMO.
sorry for using your post... but have to do it somewhere.. not sure how much longer before I pass out and my head hits the KB >.<
The document was prepared in Feb, 1964. Please try and keep up.
No, only half that thick because there would be a book A. Also, at least two bc can fit on a page so that cuts it in half again. Still, thick books though more managable but who knows how they number these things in Kenya. I do hope Orly can track this thing down and remembers to check the other 3 births (at least two on front and two on back) listed on the sheet of paper to make sure nothing has been tampered with.
I’m betting London is more respectful of original documents than Hawaii seems to be.
If the latter, it is probably fake, as the IBM Selectric wasn't introduced until 1961, and it is difficult to envision it importation to this hospital in Kenya by 1964. Eventually, it achieved 75% of the US market, and so a forger would probably find a Selectric to use for the fake.
To me, the typed sections appear uniform, and thus likely produced by an electric golf ball typewriter, rather than the uneven result from a manual basket typewriter likely in use in Kenya in February 1964.
Pelosi just PO’ed the CIA bigtime. Payback?
As I mentioned, I have an Underwood from the 40s/50s and I assure you that you have to almost type with your fists.
It is REALLY hard to easily [and consistently] punch the keys.
Here is a photo of one that is similar to mine. It was first patented in 1927 and superceded in the 50s by a more "portable" version that was *quite* expensive.
When my mom worked for Sinclair Oil in the 60s [yup, I'm old] she was still using a Royal brand model that was just as big and clunky as this.
She was a speed typer even on these things so she could probably have bent steel with her bare hands, if she'd wanted to...:)
Kenya was declared a Republic on December 12 1964 and this fake document shows Republic of Kenya and it was dated February 17 1964 i.e. before Kenya was declared a Republic.
True. And if enough grandmas and grandpas start getting the needle, you’re talkin’ overwhelming societal uproar if they think that the one killing them off is a usurper.
They were on the road to becoming a republic and the government knew it. What else would they have put on their letterhead? “The Transitional Land of Kenya?”
All the other former British colonies became republics and Kenya was in the process of becoming one too.
Re Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements:
“Those birth announcements are fraudulent.”
The birth announcements are stating the date on supposedly long-standing multiple microfilms in multiple Hawaiian libraries well before the elections. The director of the Hawaiian State Department of Health has also publicly corroborated the COLB (and hence the date of birth on it) as being accurate.
Take a deep breath for a bit. Too many people are making
money off of promoting conspiracies related to this issue and a lot of well intentioned folks are being manipulated.
I think that Obama was born in Hawaii but there must be something awfully embarrassing on his real birth certificate (and Occidental College Records) that was not immediately recognized until his presidential run was well under way.
All Democrats should demand he release the original BC and move on and be done with this distracting and now very negative issue for the President. However if there is nothing of issue on the long form original birth certificate, then it shows Obama to be a very trite person incapable of competently fathoming the complexities of higher leadership.