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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: chopperman

That is way too logical for the state run media.


251 posted on 08/02/2009 3:12:29 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Red Steel
They probably, out of exuberance, printed all govt docs with “Republic” as soon as they declared Independence. They sure didn't want to continue with anything that had Britain associated with it. I was just looking at the time-line.
252 posted on 08/02/2009 3:12:39 AM PDT by voveo
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To: Windflier

Does a highly, super-secret backup FreeRepublic site exists for when they start carpetbombing here?

:)


253 posted on 08/02/2009 3:12:43 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: mojitojoe

“Where was Stanley Ann between the summer of 1960 when she graduated and when she showed up in Hawaii with a two or three year old child -”
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“Wasn’t she attending school in WA in the fall, winter, spring of 61-62? Can someone post the time line? I can’t seem to find it.”

Ann Stanley Dunham graduated from high school in Wa. in the summer of 1960, and moved to Hawaii afterwards. Her first day at the Hawaii University was on September 26 1960:

“The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:

Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992

Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

Sincerely,
Stuart Lau”
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010


Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html


254 posted on 08/02/2009 3:13:32 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Danae

“Its just a warning.”

It is NOT just a warning. There is a program that will try to run and infect your system when you visit this site.

I’m trying to warn FReepers that don’t want the hassle/expense of digging out a bug, or recovering their data. That’s not likely, but I don’t know what this bug is yet but it caused my security setup to go ballistic.

I’ve NEVER had to do this before.

I deal with this stuff everyday, the site/server is infected.


255 posted on 08/02/2009 3:13:46 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: djf

I don’t think there will be race riots at all, their will be protests no doubt but not a nationwide riot.

Too many people will be in shock to even comprehend that they were taken in hook and their willpower may be caught in a flux as to which direction to go, logically they will follow the crowd and most of America is wishing for Obama to be forgotten.


256 posted on 08/02/2009 3:13:49 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: SpaceBar

I remember it, I have read that thing about 20 start to finish. Its the best most thorough description of the whole situation to date.


257 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:07 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: rxsid; All
Central Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
Case Number: 8:09-cv-82

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Then, use your pacer login CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA FEDERAL COURT PACER Login here

The case # to use is: 09-cv-82

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Enjoy!

259 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:15 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: conservativefromGa

What did he say ?


260 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:16 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Danae

No more Birthmas 3am snickerdoodles for you.


261 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:17 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: conservativefromGa

I also heard some big news was coming a couple of days ago and then strict radio silence.


262 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:23 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: STARWISE

What is going on? Can’t open FR page. and when I opened your link it too disappeared before it was completely downloaded.....Is this for real? Does Orley have the copy?


263 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red Steel

Can you imagine ...Obama is going to go from God like figure to national joke in 20 seconds


264 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:44 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Ordinary_American
A republic was declared on December 12, 1964. The document says Republic of Kenya. It is dated February 17, 1964.

Good work. So then it's a hoax.
265 posted on 08/02/2009 3:14:54 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Windflier

She should have called it by its title, “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”.

Maybe she can amend it later.


266 posted on 08/02/2009 3:15:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TChad

What do you want to bet Book 44B has gone for a walk or has a page or two missing?


267 posted on 08/02/2009 3:15:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mojitojoe

She took extension courses...they can be completed and returned from anywhere. I always saw that address for Anna Obama as a ‘mailbox’ address.

She was enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham.

Read from the last paragraph of Page Seven of Nine:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10313894/The-Myth-of-Barack-Obamas-Early-Life-Leahy-Cached

If you strip away the narrative of ‘Dreams’ you will find she was neither on the mainland nor in Hawaii. At any time. Before the child was two or three years of age.


268 posted on 08/02/2009 3:15:34 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: voveo

Possibly.

A good way to find out would be to find other paperwork from that era and see if it bears the same “Republic” seal at the top.


269 posted on 08/02/2009 3:15:35 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: Kevmo
They had a perfectly valid lawsuit, Berg v Obama, right in front of them and they could have easily hung their hats on that if they so chose. But they didn’t, and that makes him de facto qualified. It’s a great legal strategy and it will fly well with the press.

Yeah, I robbed that bank, but you guys didn't figure it out, so there's nothing you can do about it now. I win - you lose.

Er... don't think so. That'll never fly. A million pissed off Americans would storm the White House to drag the fraud out by his heels if he tried such a thing.

The fact that the SC didn't hear Berg vs Obama does NOT make him "de facto qualified". That's ludicrous.

270 posted on 08/02/2009 3:16:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: presently no screen name

Maybe they used the documents from a few months previous


271 posted on 08/02/2009 3:16:40 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Boucheau

This is what I got on it: http://www.stopbadware.org/home/reviewinfo?hl=en-US&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlytaitzesq.com%2Fblog1%2F


272 posted on 08/02/2009 3:17:39 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: voveo
They probably, out of exuberance, printed all govt docs with “Republic” as soon as they declared Independence. They sure didn't want to continue with anything that had Britain associated with it. I was just looking at the time-line.

Yup, that's the most likely scenario.

273 posted on 08/02/2009 3:17:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe

Independence from the United Kingdom
- Date December 12, 1963
- Republic declared December 12, 1964.


274 posted on 08/02/2009 3:18:26 AM PDT by jarofants
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To: Marguerite
The reason for the 1964 date needs to be addressed.

Where were they and why did they need a copy of the birth certificate in 1964?

Obviously this copy was generated in order to do something or go somewhere.....pre-school, Little League, out of the country for a passport....??

275 posted on 08/02/2009 3:18:48 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: Kevmo

276 posted on 08/02/2009 3:19:00 AM PDT by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Red Steel

We should find paperwork from that year to see when they started putting that on their official documents.

What did they call themselves for the entire year after the break with Great Britain?


277 posted on 08/02/2009 3:19:24 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: Danae

Is this the birth certificate that in his book Dreams, he said he found folded up along with an article about his father and his vaccination records?


278 posted on 08/02/2009 3:19:26 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Boucheau

OK, I’m upping my level of defenses.


279 posted on 08/02/2009 3:20:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jemian

I’m not willing to crawl out on that limb but I’m reserving judgment. I did take the time to save it as a jpg on my machine. Things have a way of disappearing. Odd that.

IMO, the issue isn’t where he was born because Stanley Ann was an American citizen and, I think, that makes her kids citizens as well. Except, Obama was adopted by his Indo step-dad. That makes him an Indo citizen. Also, if he accepted college money as a foreign student, then by his own admission, he is not a citizen but an alien.

I think that is the way we should go.
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Agree, whatever it takes. He’s a liar, that’s all I know for sure.


280 posted on 08/02/2009 3:21:10 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe
Kenya became independent from Great Britain on December 12, 1963.

A republic was declared on December 12, 1964.

The document says Republic of Kenya. It is dated February 17, 1964.
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Then we have a little problem, right?

I don't think so. Web based resources that are not susceptible to editing by anyone and that have been around for years state that Kenya became "fully independent in 1963." Some form of government was in place. What they say is that a "Republican government was elected in 1964." The country was most likely using the name "The Republic of Kenya" before the elections under a republican government.

281 posted on 08/02/2009 3:21:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Daisyjane69
Does a highly, super-secret backup FreeRepublic site exists for when they start carpetbombing here? :)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ok, I like your post so lets get out the tin hats and think about what happens if this is real. At the end of the day if it is ever shown that Obama was born in Kenya he is eventually toast. Biden would become President and I think he would appoint none other than Hillary for Vice President and she would promptly KILL HIM and eat his head.

282 posted on 08/02/2009 3:21:12 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: PowerPro

“The period of post colonial history Kenya began after it attained its independence in 1963 which established it as a republic.”

No need for people to freak out prematurely about fraud. If you were going to make a forgery you would have made the document dates very different.


283 posted on 08/02/2009 3:21:21 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Windflier

The document you see is a certified statement that the facts attested to are as recorded in the specified book and page number.

Normally such a document is accepted at face value as a “Birth Certificate”. A similar doucment was accepted as proof of Birth in Indonesia when my wife applied for US Citizenship.

The “Original” is merely a consecutive page in a record book and will NEVER be removed. Normally authentication would consist of verifying that the record exists in the book and on the page specified. Unless, of course, a government thug goes to the archives and takes the page out at the point of a gun or at the back end of an envelope.

If that were to have happened, then there would be a gap in the sequentially numbered pages that would be so suspicious as almost to serve as authentication in and of itself in this case.


284 posted on 08/02/2009 3:22:24 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Daisyjane69
The owner of the residence located at 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy,
the alleged address of Senator Obama’s parents when he was born, was Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge,
both of whom are deceased.

VERY CONVENIENTLY AROUND THE TIME THIS ISSUE WAS GETTING HOT!!!

Orland Scott Lefforge - died July 4, 2007
Thelma Jones Lefforge Young - died June 12, 2008.

285 posted on 08/02/2009 3:22:27 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: snowsislander
Just to be clear for everyone, the infected site is the Taitz site...

Has this actually been verified? I read over a week ago that moonbats were planting false warnings about her site being infected, when it was not. She's also got a debunking message up about this on the site.

286 posted on 08/02/2009 3:23:09 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Marguerite

I have copies of the documents you cited. However, no person other than Neil Abercrombie places her in Hawaii, no one ever saw them together, there is no record of her presence in Hawaii after graduation on the mainland in 1960.

She may have been enrolled in Hawaii, in anticipation. But there is no evidence of her attendance.

The remainder of the WA records relate to EXTENSION COURSES.


287 posted on 08/02/2009 3:23:51 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: woofie

on post 272 - i could get the info it stated - wasn’t pelosi inquiring about “E Lavendar” - the name listed on the Kenya BC about 20 hrs ago.


288 posted on 08/02/2009 3:24:04 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MissTickly
LOL.............now, what do you really think of Maher?? :)
289 posted on 08/02/2009 3:24:25 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Windflier

(Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)

Oh crap. Technically, that document is not a birth certificate. It’s more like a COLB. I wish she’d gotten the document designation correct when she filed this. Could be trouble.
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Good catch. Sheesh, I’m going to bed. She annoys me. She tries hard but she’s careless. Always double check your work and she should have another attorney look it over first. sighhhhhh


290 posted on 08/02/2009 3:24:26 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Mount Athos

Dude, you should read post 252.


291 posted on 08/02/2009 3:24:41 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: perchprism

No this is NOT a “copy” of the original. It is an “original” and certified abstract of the original record which remains in a bound record book with consecutively numbered pages.

It is in all respects an “original” Birth Certificate, if authenticated. It is essential that the photographed document be submitted to the court.


292 posted on 08/02/2009 3:24:46 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: voveo

That’s my thinking.

Anything that had Great Britain associated with it could very likely have been destroyed very close to the time of independence.

So even if the “Republic of Kenya” was officially established late 64, they had to have SOMETHING on their paperwork that mentions “Kenya” in some form.

The sequence number at the top of the doc is 495. That’s pretty low, an indication that the forms were recently printed.


293 posted on 08/02/2009 3:25:00 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: givemELL

Worse, any foreign power sufficiently motivated can force the United States into a constitutional crisis at any point in a time and manner of their own choosing.
***I think I remember this post, rattling around somewhere.

If, for example Barack Obama, acting as the president of the United States, imposes sanctions on North Korea, or Iran, or even Australia, the leader of that country would clearly have standing, and even more crucially, could go directly to the World Court to press their case and bypass all the legal nuancing a US court would suffer.
***Not really. The World Court is like an international version of Judge Wapner’s people’s court. Both parties have to consent to be adjudicated by the court in order to proceed. All zer0bama has to do is say no.

No amount of courtroom shenanigans will keep the World Court from doing its duty.
***Other than that “just say no” thingie, you’re right on target.

It is very probable that in the absence of proper documentation, the World Court would find that the Barack Obama has no legal authority to act on behalf of the United States, and every treaty, agreement, and presidential finding he ever signed is null and void.
***If he were stupid enough to submit to their judgement, yes. But I don’t think he’s that stupid.

Every act of war engaged in under his illegal orders potentially becomes a war crime.
***And THAT is precisely why Major Stefan Cooke filed his lawsuit — in case of capture, he could be tried as a war criminal. And team zer0bama backed down... interesting.

For the want of a $10 document, any hostile foreign power can, at any time, potentially take down the American government.
***Well, they certainly could do a ton of damage, but there’s a lot of winkin’ and noddin’ going on, with side deals that would prevent this. Things like zer0bama agreeing to pull troops out of Iraq.

An honest president would find that this risk would far outweigh any personal embarrassment disclosure of the truth would cause him.”
***Well, there’s your problem, sparky. This guy aint nohow nowhere near bein’ an honest president. (I know, a triple negative, 1 for each hour I shoulda been asleep)


294 posted on 08/02/2009 3:25:38 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: mojitojoe
Maybe Rahm is tired of zer0’s crap and the Clinton’s said let’s go for it now.

Doubt it. Rahm is Obot in Chief, now.

295 posted on 08/02/2009 3:25:39 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rxsid

Very nice. I wonder if the guy who signed it is still alive?


296 posted on 08/02/2009 3:25:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama - fooling fewer people every day.)
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To: Swordmaker

My World Factbook App for my iPhone says : “ Independence Declared December 12, 1963 ( from UK ).


297 posted on 08/02/2009 3:25:51 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: conservativefromGa

Joe Farah did say something big would break this week.
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I guess it’s possible that Orly got the copy and WND got it confirmed that is was from the register in Kenya.


298 posted on 08/02/2009 3:26:15 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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If this is a forgery I think someone surely would fix the dates to reflect the history of Kenya...

If its a few months into a new government and someone forgot to order the new birth certificate forms makes a lot of sense to me ...

but then Im mighty good at deluding myself


299 posted on 08/02/2009 3:26:41 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Danae

Look, it’s your PC, surf the site if you want. I’m trying to warn those that may not otherwise know what’s up.

You said it yourself:

“...she gets hacked a lot in different ways.”

That’s a BIG red flag.

They hack the server, upload THEIR MALICIOUS CODE which then tries to execute on YOUR machine when you visit the site and infect it with who knows what.

I’m getting alarms everywhere, so, for what it’s worth to you.

I am setting up a virtual machine right now to see if it will infect it.

I’ll share what I find, if anything.


300 posted on 08/02/2009 3:26:46 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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