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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
That is way too logical for the state run media.
Does a highly, super-secret backup FreeRepublic site exists for when they start carpetbombing here?
Where was Stanley Ann between the summer of 1960 when she graduated and when she showed up in Hawaii with a two or three year old child -
“Wasnt she attending school in WA in the fall, winter, spring of 61-62? Can someone post the time line? I cant seem to find it.”
Ann Stanley Dunham graduated from high school in Wa. in the summer of 1960, and moved to Hawaii afterwards. Her first day at the Hawaii University was on September 26 1960:
The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the Universitys response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.
Office of Public Records
“Its just a warning.”
It is NOT just a warning. There is a program that will try to run and infect your system when you visit this site.
I’m trying to warn FReepers that don’t want the hassle/expense of digging out a bug, or recovering their data. That’s not likely, but I don’t know what this bug is yet but it caused my security setup to go ballistic.
I’ve NEVER had to do this before.
I deal with this stuff everyday, the site/server is infected.
I don’t think there will be race riots at all, their will be protests no doubt but not a nationwide riot.
Too many people will be in shock to even comprehend that they were taken in hook and their willpower may be caught in a flux as to which direction to go, logically they will follow the crowd and most of America is wishing for Obama to be forgotten.
I remember it, I have read that thing about 20 start to finish. Its the best most thorough description of the whole situation to date.
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What did he say ?
No more Birthmas 3am snickerdoodles for you.
I also heard some big news was coming a couple of days ago and then strict radio silence.
What is going on? Can’t open FR page. and when I opened your link it too disappeared before it was completely downloaded.....Is this for real? Does Orley have the copy?
Can you imagine ...Obama is going to go from God like figure to national joke in 20 seconds
She should have called it by its title, “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”.
Maybe she can amend it later.
What do you want to bet Book 44B has gone for a walk or has a page or two missing?
She took extension courses...they can be completed and returned from anywhere. I always saw that address for Anna Obama as a ‘mailbox’ address.
She was enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham.
Read from the last paragraph of Page Seven of Nine:
If you strip away the narrative of ‘Dreams’ you will find she was neither on the mainland nor in Hawaii. At any time. Before the child was two or three years of age.
A good way to find out would be to find other paperwork from that era and see if it bears the same “Republic” seal at the top.
Yeah, I robbed that bank, but you guys didn't figure it out, so there's nothing you can do about it now. I win - you lose.
Er... don't think so. That'll never fly. A million pissed off Americans would storm the White House to drag the fraud out by his heels if he tried such a thing.
The fact that the SC didn't hear Berg vs Obama does NOT make him "de facto qualified". That's ludicrous.
Maybe they used the documents from a few months previous
This is what I got on it: http://www.stopbadware.org/home/reviewinfo?hl=en-US&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlytaitzesq.com%2Fblog1%2F
Yup, that's the most likely scenario.
Independence from the United Kingdom
- Date December 12, 1963
- Republic declared December 12, 1964.
Where were they and why did they need a copy of the birth certificate in 1964?
Obviously this copy was generated in order to do something or go somewhere.....pre-school, Little League, out of the country for a passport....??
We should find paperwork from that year to see when they started putting that on their official documents.
What did they call themselves for the entire year after the break with Great Britain?
Is this the birth certificate that in his book Dreams, he said he found folded up along with an article about his father and his vaccination records?
OK, I’m upping my level of defenses.
I’m not willing to crawl out on that limb but I’m reserving judgment. I did take the time to save it as a jpg on my machine. Things have a way of disappearing. Odd that.
IMO, the issue isn’t where he was born because Stanley Ann was an American citizen and, I think, that makes her kids citizens as well. Except, Obama was adopted by his Indo step-dad. That makes him an Indo citizen. Also, if he accepted college money as a foreign student, then by his own admission, he is not a citizen but an alien.
I think that is the way we should go.
Agree, whatever it takes. He’s a liar, that’s all I know for sure.
I don't think so. Web based resources that are not susceptible to editing by anyone and that have been around for years state that Kenya became "fully independent in 1963." Some form of government was in place. What they say is that a "Republican government was elected in 1964." The country was most likely using the name "The Republic of Kenya" before the elections under a republican government.
Ok, I like your post so lets get out the tin hats and think about what happens if this is real. At the end of the day if it is ever shown that Obama was born in Kenya he is eventually toast. Biden would become President and I think he would appoint none other than Hillary for Vice President and she would promptly KILL HIM and eat his head.
“The period of post colonial history Kenya began after it attained its independence in 1963 which established it as a republic.”
No need for people to freak out prematurely about fraud. If you were going to make a forgery you would have made the document dates very different.
The document you see is a certified statement that the facts attested to are as recorded in the specified book and page number.
Normally such a document is accepted at face value as a “Birth Certificate”. A similar doucment was accepted as proof of Birth in Indonesia when my wife applied for US Citizenship.
The “Original” is merely a consecutive page in a record book and will NEVER be removed. Normally authentication would consist of verifying that the record exists in the book and on the page specified. Unless, of course, a government thug goes to the archives and takes the page out at the point of a gun or at the back end of an envelope.
If that were to have happened, then there would be a gap in the sequentially numbered pages that would be so suspicious as almost to serve as authentication in and of itself in this case.
VERY CONVENIENTLY AROUND THE TIME THIS ISSUE WAS GETTING HOT!!!
Orland Scott Lefforge - died July 4, 2007
Thelma Jones Lefforge Young - died June 12, 2008.
Has this actually been verified? I read over a week ago that moonbats were planting false warnings about her site being infected, when it was not. She's also got a debunking message up about this on the site.
I have copies of the documents you cited. However, no person other than Neil Abercrombie places her in Hawaii, no one ever saw them together, there is no record of her presence in Hawaii after graduation on the mainland in 1960.
She may have been enrolled in Hawaii, in anticipation. But there is no evidence of her attendance.
The remainder of the WA records relate to EXTENSION COURSES.
on post 272 - i could get the info it stated - wasn’t pelosi inquiring about “E Lavendar” - the name listed on the Kenya BC about 20 hrs ago.
(Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obamas birth certificate from Kenya)
Oh crap. Technically, that document is not a birth certificate. It’s more like a COLB. I wish she’d gotten the document designation correct when she filed this. Could be trouble.
Good catch. Sheesh, I’m going to bed. She annoys me. She tries hard but she’s careless. Always double check your work and she should have another attorney look it over first. sighhhhhh
Dude, you should read post 252.
No this is NOT a “copy” of the original. It is an “original” and certified abstract of the original record which remains in a bound record book with consecutively numbered pages.
It is in all respects an “original” Birth Certificate, if authenticated. It is essential that the photographed document be submitted to the court.
That’s my thinking.
Anything that had Great Britain associated with it could very likely have been destroyed very close to the time of independence.
So even if the “Republic of Kenya” was officially established late 64, they had to have SOMETHING on their paperwork that mentions “Kenya” in some form.
The sequence number at the top of the doc is 495. That’s pretty low, an indication that the forms were recently printed.
Worse, any foreign power sufficiently motivated can force the United States into a constitutional crisis at any point in a time and manner of their own choosing.
***I think I remember this post, rattling around somewhere.
If, for example Barack Obama, acting as the president of the United States, imposes sanctions on North Korea, or Iran, or even Australia, the leader of that country would clearly have standing, and even more crucially, could go directly to the World Court to press their case and bypass all the legal nuancing a US court would suffer.
***Not really. The World Court is like an international version of Judge Wapner’s people’s court. Both parties have to consent to be adjudicated by the court in order to proceed. All zer0bama has to do is say no.
No amount of courtroom shenanigans will keep the World Court from doing its duty.
***Other than that “just say no” thingie, you’re right on target.
It is very probable that in the absence of proper documentation, the World Court would find that the Barack Obama has no legal authority to act on behalf of the United States, and every treaty, agreement, and presidential finding he ever signed is null and void.
***If he were stupid enough to submit to their judgement, yes. But I don’t think he’s that stupid.
Every act of war engaged in under his illegal orders potentially becomes a war crime.
***And THAT is precisely why Major Stefan Cooke filed his lawsuit — in case of capture, he could be tried as a war criminal. And team zer0bama backed down... interesting.
For the want of a $10 document, any hostile foreign power can, at any time, potentially take down the American government.
***Well, they certainly could do a ton of damage, but there’s a lot of winkin’ and noddin’ going on, with side deals that would prevent this. Things like zer0bama agreeing to pull troops out of Iraq.
An honest president would find that this risk would far outweigh any personal embarrassment disclosure of the truth would cause him.
***Well, there’s your problem, sparky. This guy aint nohow nowhere near bein’ an honest president. (I know, a triple negative, 1 for each hour I shoulda been asleep)
Doubt it. Rahm is Obot in Chief, now.
Very nice. I wonder if the guy who signed it is still alive?
My World Factbook App for my iPhone says : “ Independence Declared December 12, 1963 ( from UK ).
Joe Farah did say something big would break this week.
I guess it’s possible that Orly got the copy and WND got it confirmed that is was from the register in Kenya.
If this is a forgery I think someone surely would fix the dates to reflect the history of Kenya...
If its a few months into a new government and someone forgot to order the new birth certificate forms makes a lot of sense to me ...
but then Im mighty good at deluding myself
Look, it’s your PC, surf the site if you want. I’m trying to warn those that may not otherwise know what’s up.
You said it yourself:
“...she gets hacked a lot in different ways.”
That’s a BIG red flag.
They hack the server, upload THEIR MALICIOUS CODE which then tries to execute on YOUR machine when you visit the site and infect it with who knows what.
I’m getting alarms everywhere, so, for what it’s worth to you.
I am setting up a virtual machine right now to see if it will infect it.
I’ll share what I find, if anything.