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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: RetSignman

LOL.....

I see your point.....


2,801 posted on 08/02/2009 1:44:19 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: WOSG
“Watch the stock market on Monday. Let’s see what the world makes of it.”
The world will think nothing of it. It has the ring of Fakery to it.


So says you, lol
2,802 posted on 08/02/2009 1:44:39 PM PDT by mkjessup (No live rabbits were pelted in the construction of this post.)
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To: rxsid; All

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2,803 posted on 08/02/2009 1:44:50 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: rswan6574

If a ‘late registration’ COLB was applied for in Hawaii by someone on behalf of Obama then they simply might have accepted this date as his date of birth as given by whoever made the application.


2,804 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:12 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Jemian
Why would he be looking here in Papua? Caligula has never been in Papua (that I know about). He lived in Jakarta, quite a distance away.

Lolo and Stanley Ann claimed he was from Irian Jaya (West Papua) to both explain away his curly hair and give him Indonesian cover.

He's been pretending to be who he's not practically from birth.

2,805 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:22 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 194 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: jveritas
This document is as fake as CBS documents about President Bush national guard service. It is ironic that Free Republic discovered the CBS fake documents but now we have freepers posting a fake document and trying to tell us that it is authentic.

We need to give this forgery credit. It's a bit better done than the TANG doc forgery.

2,806 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:29 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Kevmo

It is a scare tactic, my AV did not pop anything.


2,807 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:30 PM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: buccaneer81
LOL!!

Time to clean up the Garbage!!!

2,808 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: woofie

He did not write either one.


2,809 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:42 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: bgill
True

Nope. The Northeast province became part of the British Kenya Protectorate in 1895.

2,810 posted on 08/02/2009 1:45:53 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Dutch Boy

Its possible, but Occam’s razor states the simplest answer is the correct one. Likely his date of birth is correct. But again, no one knows for sure until we see those Hawaiian Records Barry is hiding.


2,811 posted on 08/02/2009 1:46:25 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: SE Mom

Except Sr and his family weren’t known to have had any previous ties with Mombasa.


2,812 posted on 08/02/2009 1:46:58 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: phil.jberg

So then you really have nothing to add about the authenticity of this BC? You have already said it was not the one you know of.


2,813 posted on 08/02/2009 1:46:58 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Scanian

If WND says they have examples like the one here...may put this ‘Republic’ issue to rest. Besides the Obots would have a heck of a time trying to cover up every 1964 document in existence if some do say ‘Republic of Kenya’ somewhere on it. LoL!


2,814 posted on 08/02/2009 1:47:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: xine
Until that matter can be resolved to prove that the Kenyan gov’t did indeed use documents with “Republic” instead of “Dominion” before it officially happened, I would have to take that document as a hoax :-(

Unless the Dominion of Kenya versus Republic of Kenya distinction is an internet error that has been proliferated by sites that heavily borrow off of each other. Most of these have been coin, flag, and Wikipedia links. Neither the CIA factbook nor the government of Kenya website discusses this.
2,815 posted on 08/02/2009 1:47:28 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: carcraft

Who said he took her there? Stanley may have gone to Kenya to try to work her way into the family. Hanging out at the beach with a 7 to 8 month pregnant lady probably isn’t fun. Obama’s aunt said she was at the Hospital so Stanley may have been visiting Obama’s relatives in Mombasa!

~~`

It would be impossible and sheer LUNACY for anyone to speculate about the possibility of a day trip by Barack Sr. and Dunham ... who could know the whats and whys of a day

40+ years ago?

Also, Barack Sr. had high hopes of being involved in the next chapter of Kenya’s new government. There are any # of logical reasons why he could’ve been in one of its largest cities, Mombasa.

NO theories or speculations are known with certainty nor can any be conclusively be ruled out and discarded, no matter HOW MUCH someone wants to quash ANY and EVERY theory.


2,816 posted on 08/02/2009 1:47:28 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: perchprism
I’m declaring shenannigans!!

This may all go away but one thing is for sure, it ain't gonna happen today!

This thread is blistering hot. Been trying to keep up all day to no avail.

2,817 posted on 08/02/2009 1:47:30 PM PDT by houeto (Defang the FEDGOV. Repeal the 17th!)
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To: ThirdLaw

What is the proof of what you say?


2,818 posted on 08/02/2009 1:47:32 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Beloved Levinite
"So fine, let’s impeach and convict him for fraud by signing forms in states saying he was “constitutionally eligible”. He can resign without jail or he can be removed with jail time."
Just imagine the MEGA riots in the streets! It would be Selma '65 X 1000. How could the US Military contain it w/o shooting Zero's thugs in the streets?


That's what Zero's thugs ultimately have planned for us.
2,819 posted on 08/02/2009 1:48:25 PM PDT by mkjessup (Excuse me Mr. 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House, got it?)
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To: null and void

“A recent sign on date is simply an indicator that their posts are to be taken with a grain of salt.”

You know I love and respect you, nully, but, as I said a few times on this thread...a new guy was banned a few days ago because he posted the very same birth certificate posted on this thread today. He was merely asking FReepers their opinion of it. I think it’s rather immature to label everyone a troll just because they’re new.

xxoo


2,820 posted on 08/02/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Scanian; LucyT; MHGinTN

True but who placed the ad?
____________
The clue is........ Why was obumbo’s in there,but NOT the twins that were born on the same day? switerchoo..hint hint... if someone had an actual newspaper saved from that day, and Obama’s was not there, but the one of the twins was, that is irrefutable evidence the microfilm was changed and a crime was committed.


2,821 posted on 08/02/2009 1:49:03 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Nasher

Wow - Up to 92,470+ views!


2,822 posted on 08/02/2009 1:49:30 PM PDT by Nasher (Sec. of The WH Swingset Hillary: Hows that whole Hope&Change thingy working out for ya?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Wrong age for Obama’s father. —> Even Wiki doesn't have a birth date, only 1936.

Misspelled village name. —> Kanyadhiang looks pretty clear to me.

DAtes are all screwed up. —> They noticed? LOL!

2,823 posted on 08/02/2009 1:49:52 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: behzinlea
What agenda are you pushing?

He's pushing the Rat troll agenda.

2,824 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:06 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Danae

Nice Post.

91,917+ views and counting!


2,825 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:22 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Beloved Levinite

Just imagine if you do nothing.


2,826 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:29 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: WOSG

The form does look word-processor generated.

but 0 does need to release BC, transcripts, fin aid apps, passport records, medical records, and post graduate writings.


2,827 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:35 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: mkjessup

How could the US Military contain it w/o shooting Zero’s thugs in the streets?
-________________
Lawless thugs are lawless thugs, they do what they have to do. If you allow the lawless to rule, there is no law.


2,828 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: the anti-liberal
Thanks much appreciated.
I don't wanna complicate this even more than already but is that law only in the case of a legitimate President or does it also apply to an illegitimate Potus and how do we know?
2,829 posted on 08/02/2009 1:50:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: WOSG

Is that you Bill Maher?


2,830 posted on 08/02/2009 1:51:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mkjessup

The FBI can quietly escort him to a mental hospital where he can be treated for his Messiah complex, and they can tell the DU populace types, he’s on vacation. He’s never in the WH anyway, it’ll be months before he’s missed


2,831 posted on 08/02/2009 1:51:33 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: cynwoody

Given they knew it was coming for some time and had Stamps printed up already I think it quite likely. I am not saying you are wrong OR right. But it is VERY likely that this is what they would have used. The United States wasn’t an official Nation till 1778 when the Constitution was ratified. I might be missing the date a bit, but it had official documents that stated that it was the United States from 1776 on. There is historical Precedent.

We will know more when the Documents are accepted by the Court.

WDN says that Birth Certificates they have examined of the same era match.

Right now, from what I have learned in the last 12 hours is that this stands a pretty high percentage of being legit.

I could be wrong. Not like I haven’t been wrong before! I most certainly have. It ratchets the pressure up on Barry thats for damn sure!


2,832 posted on 08/02/2009 1:51:45 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As soon as independence was announced, it is likely that offices for official documents would have ordered new forms with the anticipated name. Dutch printing companies were all over the new business no doubt.


2,833 posted on 08/02/2009 1:51:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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2,834 posted on 08/02/2009 1:51:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: toldyou

I think it’s rather immature to label everyone a troll just because they’re new.
________________
I agree. There are a few on here that signed up in 1998, 1999 and if they aren’t trolls, then I don’t know what a troll is. They do nothing but side with the progressives and defend that asshat in the WH.


2,835 posted on 08/02/2009 1:52:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: houeto

There has hardly been a peep from him in days.


2,836 posted on 08/02/2009 1:52:21 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: sometime lurker

There’s been a lot of speculation on the Mombasa aspect. I suppose it’s possible that Daddy Obama had some reason to go to Mombasa - political party headquarters? maybe the university where he got an undergraduate degree? near the airport? It’s odd but not impossible.

There is the issue that Granny Obama says that she was present at his birth. She wouldn’t have been that old at the time (in her 40s, probably), so it wouldn’t have been impossible for her to get to Mombasa.

Why she’d go is another matter. Maybe Daddy Obama wanted her there, maybe he felt that he wanted it clear that Baby Obama was his and belonged to his clan, maybe she even intended to take the baby back to her village to be brought up there. Who knows?

They’re odd aspects, but don’t really make it impossible.


2,837 posted on 08/02/2009 1:52:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: rswan6574
August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii IS August 5, 1961 in Mombasa, Kenya. Mombasa is about 11200 west of Honolulu on the other side of the International Dateline. Mombasa is about 11 hours ahead of Honolulu. So technically they are logged correctly by date at each location.

If “Yomama” was born in Mombasa on August 5, 1961 it would be recorded as August 4, 1961 in Honolulu!

What a bunch of crock!

2,838 posted on 08/02/2009 1:52:55 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: phil.jberg

Thank you. Welcome to Free Republic!


2,839 posted on 08/02/2009 1:53:44 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: cmsgop

“5) Most damning of all, the font used is Schmutz, which was invented in 1995.”

This is an interesting observation. Any independent FR confirmations of this possible?


2,840 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:09 PM PDT by 4FreeSpeach
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To: 1000 silverlings
Well he apparently made a claim that he was alive some months before August, but I can’t recall the specifics.

That was probably a reference to the America that existed prior to Roe v. Wade in '73, when unborn babies were actually considered to be legitimate life forms deserving of protection, instead of unwelcome infestations eligible for extermination for the convenience of the mother.

How lucky 0bama was, that he managed to arrive 12 years earlier.
2,841 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:10 PM PDT by mkjessup (Excuse me Mr. 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House, got it?)
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To: jcsjcm

Too many posts.. LOL I got it a few ago.


2,842 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:18 PM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: luvEastTenn
On Friday (IIRC), Rush said more about the BC issue than I’ve ever heard him say.

Do you think he will cover this story on Monday?
2,843 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:25 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Nasher

93,549+ views Now!

This thread is smoking hot!


2,844 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:54 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: livius

Resort town and port, newly part of Kenya, presumably would be the coolest location without AC for a pregnant woman in there in the summer. I can imagine various reasons why a first-timer to Kenya would be taken there.


2,845 posted on 08/02/2009 1:54:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ding

You must be one of those cute little infiltrators!


2,846 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:19 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Beloved Levinite

I don’t care. Is your answer is “people might get upset so we’ll just have to forego the constitution this go ‘round?”


2,847 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:19 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Danae

That needs repeated. Very nice post Danae!!!!!!- So once again, here is Danae’s post:
______________________________________________________
______________________________________________________

To any and all new viewers and posters!

Please forgive us, the regulars of Free Republic.

You might have noticed we get bashed in the press a lot. We get called a lot of names. We have our credibility and our sanity questioned on a regular basis. Yet, we are all just average people, and in some cases (not me) exceptional people.

That being said, we also get infiltrated regularly by those who are diametrically opposed to our beliefs, and what we see as our rights as Americans and Free people. Those infiltrators have at some times led us astray, hurt our credibility and or caused wasted hours in research on tangents.

In the end we here are about a few solid principles.

The first of which is the truth. We may not agree on what that truth is all the time, and may get personally upset and having our views questioned. We are a passionate group! But ultimately we want the TRUTH.

We believe that the constitution is not an elastic document meant to stretch, bend or otherwise be manipulated other than by specific state ratified Amendments.

We believe in Freedom, and the freedom of those to have opposing opinions, and the freedom to mock the wholey heck out of them at will! This is America and we get to do that here.

So to those of you who are new and do not know us, we are good people who have been taught not to trust. Experience has taught us to question nearly everything.

So welcome! We are glad to have you here, you are each and every one, a blessing! Because each of you is one more person who now can see the truth of who and what we are, and perhaps find more in common with FReepers than perhaps you ever imagined. We are NOT what is portrayed in the press.

We are Americans who have an undying love for this Nation and her citizens and for Freedom!

Thats Free Republic!

Welcome!

Danae


2,848 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:26 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; rswan6574

rswan6574 might be a troll.

;-)


2,849 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:27 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: mojitojoe

We are definitely NOT one-trick ponies and stuff like Kevorkian Care and Cap n Tax will make more folks question this crum’s motives and cause them to at least CONSIDER the possibility that Hussein is ineligible.

Let’s keep up the legislative drumbeat but make people aware of what Orly is doing as well.


2,850 posted on 08/02/2009 1:55:36 PM PDT by Scanian
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