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orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Islam=Murder

Can I listen and giggle on a phone extension?


4,251 posted on 08/02/2009 8:18:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rxsid

If this pans out, SCOTUS will have to order a recount of the 2008 Electoral College vote, with the votes for BOH disqualified due to Constitutional ineligibility. This would mean that the John McCain assumes the Presidency. I guess Biden would still be VPOTUS, since there aren’t any such issues with his eligibility.

Not an ideal situation, but a hell of a lot better than what we have now.


4,252 posted on 08/02/2009 8:18:58 PM PDT by nabalzbbfr
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To: SaraJohnson

I just thought of something. If Orly can find an original in London, could she take it to a British court and have them declare it a legal document? Granted we don’t have to abide by British law but still wouldn’t that give her a bit more leverage when confronting RAT judges on this side of the pond? One would think that would at least raise major questions if she were told to go home because there was no merit.


4,253 posted on 08/02/2009 8:19:08 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: preacher

Where does it say “Mombasa, Kenya”?

It only says “Mombasa”


4,254 posted on 08/02/2009 8:20:23 PM PDT by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Windflier

That is a good theory as to why the Democrats did not expose Barry during the election. Buy why did the Republicans let him get away with it? What did they have to gain from corrupting our country to this degree for the benefit of the Democrat Party?


4,255 posted on 08/02/2009 8:20:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FR_addict

Here’s the link to the original constitution.

http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf


4,256 posted on 08/02/2009 8:21:13 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ("Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.")
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To: 4FreeSpeach
I think it looks like a document typed on a device that many of us only see in a museum complete with human errors and mannerisms like maybe a person with bad eyes, left handed or handicapped in some way, in other words it was made BY human hands, unlike a digitalized document thats forged to be absolutely perfect, so perfect its sterile, its sticks out by the very fact it looks TOO perfect. The Hawaiian document was too perfect, too many digital mistakes, no HUMAN mistakes. I am committing myself to the belief that this is real.
4,257 posted on 08/02/2009 8:21:51 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I still cross 7’s also 0’s and my 1’s are just like upside down capital T’s, for me its from military training in communications.


4,258 posted on 08/02/2009 8:22:00 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: Houghton M.

“Agreed, but 3021 says that the birth announcement was generated by information from the HI state officials based on hospital reports, that parents/grandparents did not phone these in.

If so, that does make it difficult to explain two distinct newspaper announcements of a Honolulu birth on Aug. 4 that actually took place in Mombasa.”

Not really.

Ann wasn’t able to pass on citizenship - so jr would not have been a US citizen. Grandma could have gone to the hospital, got a birth certificate, filled it out, forged Ann’s signature, and submitted it to the Health Dept. This is a legitamate option (other than forged mothers signature) for registering a birth in Hawaii - you could even do it by mail!

This would give Obama a VERY good reason not to want to release his original birth certificate, because this would become evident.


4,259 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:23 PM PDT by Mashman
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To: P-Marlowe

- Colonies were not called ‘dominions’. Dominion (Canada, Australia etc..) was a term used for semi-independent countries with QE2 as head of state. Kenya was a colony until Dec 1963. During the Dec 1963 to Dec 1964 transition to republic QE2 was head of state represented by a Governor General (Malcolm John MacDonald).
http://africanhistory.about.com/library/bl/bl-leaders-kenya.htm

- the Kenyan coat of arms at the top of the page was adopted in Oct 1963 so it just shows that the real-or-fake document was created after that date - doesn’t prove/disprove anything one way or the other

- I am impressed that the typist was able to so evenly vertically center the entries in their boxes - that was always a struggle for me.

- surely its easy to track down Book #448 Page #5733


4,261 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:30 PM PDT by ThirdLaw (kenya birth certificate forgery)
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To: Wolf-Lake

Airline timetables from the 1960’s are available. There are many collectors on eBay and on sites like timetableimages.com and airtimes.com. Did I just push the bid price up? :)


4,262 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:39 PM PDT by ThirdLaw (kenya birth certificate forgery)
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To: SaraJohnson

Because so many of them are (a) terrified eunuchs, (b) blackmailed because of their secret vices or crimes or (c) beholden due to recieving various monies illegally. Or possibly because they just want to stay in DC in some manner for due to lust for power and money and don’t have any principles and therefore don’t want to rock the boat.


4,263 posted on 08/02/2009 8:24:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Aham Brahmasmi - I am eternal soul)
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To: luvEastTenn
You bet! The usual cranks keep spouting off without having read the thread. Republic of Kenya thing has been addressed like 30 or 40 times alone.
4,264 posted on 08/02/2009 8:24:10 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: NoobRep
That's a rather petty thing to get excited about. In the 196Os, as this was not entered on a computer with its field-level validation, it would not have mattered particularly if the typist entered O or 0. I work on computers all the time and frequently enter O in place of 0 (but in my case I have to correct it).

I'm more concerned about the names of the Registrar officials, determining whether "Republic" was in use in early 1964. One thing that could answer many of these questions is a scan of a birth certificate or four from (a) Kenyan(s) born after December 1963 and before December 1964. Man, that would answer a lot of questions!

4,265 posted on 08/02/2009 8:24:29 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: nabalzbbfr

Never gonna happen. However, I have said since January of this year that BHO would never finish out his term and that he would be voluntarily exiting the White House. I still believe that if this story really has legs, Biden will do an Agnew and depart so that a “qualified” replacement for Barry can be appointed. Then the skids will be greased for Dear Teleprompters exit.

Another thing that makes me believe that the birth certificate is real, is that before the 70’s or 80’s, and expecially in undeveloped rat holes like Kenya, they used a high rag content paper for official documents. When this paper aged it would get vertical lines or wrinkles. This BC seems to fit the bill.


4,266 posted on 08/02/2009 8:24:32 PM PDT by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: MrDem
Looking for the wrong name. It was Barack Hussein.

Huh?

4,267 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:29 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: NoobRep

If its not a Zero then why is there a comma?? Looks like the number 47,044.


4,268 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:31 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: rxsid

I really want to see this, but I can’t get it to download. I don’t know what I am doing wrong. Is anyone else having trouble?


4,269 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:51 PM PDT by Protest
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To: Duchess47

I’ve had this link off and on all day and there is no “fake” in the url. Now I’m afraid to x off it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265


4,270 posted on 08/02/2009 8:26:19 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: ThirdLaw

You moved the carriage to the middle of the space to be filled and backspaced once for every two letters. As long as you eyeballed to the center of the area, you were golden.


4,271 posted on 08/02/2009 8:27:21 PM PDT by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: saquin

Everyone in the family was not necessarily in the same place. On the other hand, Obama’s grandmother said she attended the birth of Obama and she lives in the villiage far from the hospital as you have said.

It’s a mystery! Hopefully a judge will have the courage and character to get to the bottom of it.


4,272 posted on 08/02/2009 8:27:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Eye of Unk

I’m with you. There are several interesting challenges out there, but this item, if it’s a forgery, is a very artful one indeed.


4,273 posted on 08/02/2009 8:27:44 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: Eye of Unk

The only thing I notice, is that the paper is very, very white. 48 year old paper is usually more yellow....


4,274 posted on 08/02/2009 8:28:37 PM PDT by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

While I’m thinking about it ... lest we forget

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“The chairs and microphone were all set up in one of the biggest hotels in Nairobi, the capital. Many journalists had crowded in to hear what Mr. Corsi would say about Mr. Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate whose father was Kenyan and who is adored here like a native son.

But it was not to be.

A few minutes before Mr. Corsi was to speak, more than 20 Kenyan immigration agents swooped into the hotel and arrested him. He was whisked off to the immigration office, where officials said he had misled them on his entry papers. By the end of the day, Mr. Corsi’s aides said that he was being booted from the country.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/world/africa/08kenya.html


4,275 posted on 08/02/2009 8:29:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: mkcc30

My husband was a Navy communications officer. Guess it’s a math-oriented comm officer thing!


4,276 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:00 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: phil.jberg

You are misusing “Trojan horse.” A Trojan horse has something hidden inside it. That’s the point. Nothing harmful is in plain sight — it’s inside the horse.


4,277 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:07 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Yes, thank you. Did you see this document from the UK?

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1963/cukpga_19630054_en_1

Kenya Independence Act 1963
1963 CHAPTER 54
An Act to make provision for, and in connection with, the attainment by Kenya of fully responsible status within the Commonwealth, including provision for terminating the giving of financial and other assistance to the East African Common Services Organisation under the Colonial Development and Welfare Act 1959.

[3rd December 1963]
.1 Provision for fully responsible status of Kenya.(1)On and after 12th December 1963 (in this Act referred to as “the appointed day”) Her Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom shall have no responsibility for the government of Kenya or any part thereof..

(2)No Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed on or after the appointed day shall extend, or be deemed to extend, to Kenya, or any part of Kenya, as part of the law thereof; and on and after that day the provisions of Schedule 1 to this Act shall have effect with respect to legislative powers in Kenya..

(3)In this Act “Kenya” includes the territories comprised immediately before the appointed day in the Kenya Protectorate..

4,278 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:38 PM PDT by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: phil.jberg

bad link


4,279 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:53 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Pamela Atlas Shrugs

You know something we don’t know ?


4,280 posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:59 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: luvEastTenn

I believe that was invented by the french many generations ago and gradually was adopted by scientists everywhere. Americans are likely the only people on the planet that don’t use it.


4,281 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:01 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Diggity
Posted: August 02, 2009

7:18 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama's short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org.

Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Chiyome Fukino's initial press release last October and subsequent press release last week also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents.

In June 2008, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, released the initial short-form Obama COLB to various newspapers including the Los Angeles Times declaring, "This is Sen. Obama's birth certificate."

This short-form Obama COLB was released as a .jpg Internet image, displaying no signs of having been folded or of carrying an official State of Hawaii embossed seal.

COLB image released by Obama campaign June 2008

As demonstrated by a poster on Free Republic identified as "musicman," the COLB the Obama campaign released in June 2008 apparently had a date stamped on the back that bled through to the document's front side.

Date stamp bleeding through

When magnified and reversed, the date "JUN 8 2007" appears to be legible.

Close-up of stamp bleeding through

Image magnified and reversed

When this short-form COLB was released, the Obama campaign did not explanation who obtained the document from the Hawaii DOH or why the document had been held for a year before being released to the public.

Anomalies in this version of the Obama COLB, however, raised several questions among skeptics:

The printing on the document clearly appeared done by a laser printer, not by any printing device available in 1961.

The father's "race" was listed as "African," not "Negro," the more expected designation in the less politically correct environment of the early 1960s.

As noted above, the document evidenced no embossed seal from the State of Hawaii.

The lack of folds on the document raised questions if and how the document had been mailed by the Hawaii DOH to the requesting recipient. Two months later, however, on Aug. 21, 2008, FactCheck.org, an organization funded by the same left-leaning Annenberg Foundation that also employed Barack Obama and former Weatherman radical bomber Bill Ayers, produced a short-form Obama COLB that was very different in appearance.

(Story continues below)

[link to www.wnd.com]

4,282 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:16 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: mkcc30

If only his birth had been handled as he wishes - burdensome thing left on the table to die after live birth. Can’t saddle these young girls with the burden of a child.
Gosh it’s getting late but what a learning experience this has been and may it continue until the right document is found. The fraud deserves a ride home.


4,283 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:46 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: Plutarch

Someone doodled a star at “maiden”, it looks like it has been folded for some time and you can see the star has mirrod itself above the foldline. Who and when was this doodled?


4,285 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:48 PM PDT by imagephreak
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To: Diggity

Im not sure if I get your point, but not knowing if its real or not I willing to chalk this up as just a typo or clerical error. You ever seen a ...., oh never mind.


4,286 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by stevejwn (The Constituion comes first...)
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To: STARWISE

well she sent it to the DOJ


4,287 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by vrajavala (naturalborncitizen)
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To: Kevmo

when someone swear to uphold the Constitution and is really trampling the Constitution, that is not a legal defense. Just like if someone swears to tell the truth under Oath and then perjures himself, he/she is guilty of perjury.


4,288 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by vrajavala (naturalborncitizen)
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To: Free State Four
Coincidences do happen. My daughter died on 1-26-2003. She had one debit card in her wallet. It expired on 1-26-2003. Unsettling yes, but not an omen. I don't believe that the numbers 47044 have anything to do with a hoax. We can find meaning in anything if we look hard enough, but that does not make it true.
4,289 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by CherieDawn
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To: sometime lurker

RE flight schedules, why a flight from London? Besides the boat option, why not fly from Hawai’i around the other way, changing planes at other friendly places? [not sure of the max. long-haul flights at the time.]


4,290 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:49 PM PDT by FreeStateYank
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To: mojitojoe

LaRouche also says he can be impeached because he is pushing the same “death policy” that Hitler pushed the “Tiergarten Policy” september 1939. The doctors and others who promoted it were tried by the Nuremburg trials and hung.


4,291 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:50 PM PDT by vrajavala (naturalborncitizen)
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To: Diggity

47O44 might be a coding system relating to the original file locations? Done with real property- plat/folio.


4,292 posted on 08/02/2009 8:31:51 PM PDT by FreeStateYank
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To: saquin

Who would get preggers out of wedlock at eighteen with a Kenyan Muslim? Stanley was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Given that, I can see her jumping on a plane to Kenya if daddo demanded it. I can see her frolicking on the beach ‘til her water broke. Ditz.

Then she married an abusing Muslim from Indonesia and abandoned Barry to live with his grandparents...


4,293 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Just heard that Michelle Malkin has a brand new book out about that called “Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies”

http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Corruption-Cheats-Crooks-Cronies/dp/1596981091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249269675&sr=8-1


4,294 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:24 PM PDT by deks (Obama Birthplace National Monument http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2169571/posts (:)
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To: appeal2

Unlike the razzle-dazzle, perfect Hawaiian COLB, this seems to have the “character” and “personality” of an aging document. Looks much like all of the important family papers I’ve kept from decades ago.


4,295 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:27 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: tuckrdout

Not if it was high rag content paper.


4,296 posted on 08/02/2009 8:32:34 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: autumnraine

Yeah, that’s my fault, I was thinking in terms of BHO Seniors mom’s mom who made the announcement. I was trying to make sense as to why a mom would announce she was at her sons birth. But that would make it baracks great-grandmother. At the time I posted that it made sense to me, now I see the error or my judgment. Damn, I am losing my mind over this, been at my computer all day...I need some rest.


4,297 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:23 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: cookcounty
cookcounty: (my condolences)

You are correct. I travel to India frequently. I am often used as the “interpreter” amongst Indians and their various dialects, but English is the only common language.

4,298 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:27 PM PDT by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: deks
Published July 27, 2009 Image and video hosting by TinyPic
4,299 posted on 08/02/2009 8:33:58 PM PDT by deks (Obama Birthplace National Monument http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2169571/posts (:)
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To: STARWISE

Well, he was in Nairobi. He should have been in Mombasa. They immigration agents were just trying to help him out a bit in his quest for the Birther Grail! :)


4,300 posted on 08/02/2009 8:34:01 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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