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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Red Steel

Anyway the OBAMAO bashing must go on...

And BTW that rule of the US soil birth looks rather inappropriate above all to be POTUS !
Both parents should be US citizens that’s all !

The case should be closed for OBAMAODINGA


451 posted on 08/02/2009 4:08:51 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Red Steel
You should see this:

Your link is the Constitution with consolidated amendments to 1999. The dates and content of prior amendments is not indicated. We will need to review the 1963 enactment, if it is online. One hint, however, is that several provisions in the 1999 consolidation indicated that certain changes were to become effective December 12, 1964. The country's name was likely another one of those December 12, 1964 changes. I will keep searching.

452 posted on 08/02/2009 4:08:59 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: Fred Nerks
Here is a really poor copy of the PDF picture of it. I was in a hurry and tired. Photobucket
453 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:29 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Daisyjane69
That would make my mother so mad. She would tell me some news and I would respond and add so much more detail that she didn't know. At first she would ask how I heard it and where I got the additional info. I would list the articles and then say it is compiled at Free Republic. LOL! Mom was a lib.
454 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:38 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Caligula is pure evil.)
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To: EBH
The MSM (State Run Media) is our greatest enemy here. They have been on a steady propaganda mission to degrade Conservatives or people trying to stop the Democrats and Dear Leader.

If anything, they will attack us with the politics of personal destruction like they did Joe the Plumber, Sarah, etc. They already have established that any angle of the so called “Birthers” is purely motivated by racial hate, etc,,.

The American Public is also our greatest obstacle. 90% of them have no clue that this investigation exists, or they don't know what it is about, nor do they care.

I hope that things will change, but this country is in the shape it is in today because of the generally lazy American Public. It seems like it will take something far more catastrophic than events like this, to wake them up from their coma.

455 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:51 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: djf

the original,since this is a copy,most probably stated he was a subject of great britain. this doc would be a source of pride for his father. many probably had these reissued for that purpose.(assuming its real)


456 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:52 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: Kevmo
It does make him de facto qualified. It will take an act of impeachment to remove him now.

Kev, this is a country of laws. If Obama is proven to be ineligible to hold the office of President in a court of law, he will likely be escorted from the White House by US Marshalls.

There won't even be an impeachment proceeding, because he was never President to begin with. Everything he signed will be null and void, including all legislation.

Please, you're trying to make an untenable argument that doesn't stand up to the Constitutional standard.

457 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:53 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EBH

The Three Percent in 1775.

During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.

The Three Percent today are gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will no longer back up at the passage of the next gun control act. Three Percenters say quite explicitly that we will not obey any further circumscription of our traditional liberties and will defend ourselves if attacked. We intend to maintain our God-given natural rights to liberty and property, and that means most especially the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders’ Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic.

We are the people that the collectivists who now control the government should leave alone if they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption. We are the Three Percent. Attempt to further oppress us at your peril.

To put it bluntly, leave us the hell alone.

Or, if you feel froggy, go ahead AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Temp/Temp-3Percenters-Semper5.htm


458 posted on 08/02/2009 4:09:59 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: STARWISE

Oh, that is sad. I’m sorry to learn that. I was hoping for a miracle.


459 posted on 08/02/2009 4:10:40 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Caligula is pure evil.)
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To: rxsid

Wow thank you.


460 posted on 08/02/2009 4:11:06 AM PDT by Katarina (Sarah Palin and ElRushbo the true conservatives. Thank God for Conservative talk radio.)
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To: presently no screen name
How soon before it happened in Dec 64 did they know? There’s a 10 month difference. Do you think they could do to official documents - when it really wasn’t ‘official’ yet.

Quite some time. The British did not just cut their colonies loose. In this case, the Republic of Kenya was declared on December 12, 1963 when they ratified their constitution by a 63% vote.

461 posted on 08/02/2009 4:11:34 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: DaveTesla

It’s not showing any problems right now, but that isn’t to say that it won’t be a problem again.

If you don’t have to go to this site you probably shouldn’t.


462 posted on 08/02/2009 4:11:49 AM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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To: Windflier
I'll bet dollars to donuts that Book 44B is already missing from the Coast Province Registrars Office.

I'll bet someone dies over this.

463 posted on 08/02/2009 4:11:50 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: Red Steel

Hi Red Steel! Did you somehow fail to notice the document you are citing from was amended in 1999?

You are looking at a modern, amended form of the constitution, and falsely suggesting that it is the original constitution of 1963.

If you look at Kenya’s original constitution, it does not call Kenya a Republic. This is hardly surprising, Kenya was not a republic until 1964. Documents before 1964, such as the original 1963 constitution, would not be expected to call kenya a republic. Documents after, such as the 1999 you cite, would call it a republic.

You can review the original 1963 constitution here.

http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf


464 posted on 08/02/2009 4:11:54 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: greeneyes

Yes, me too. I am working hospital midnight shift. I was sitting here reading the same threads over and over. I have been glued to FR in the last few months just waiting for something like this to pop up. Something to give me real hope, that is authentic 100% USDA HOPE, not Kenya fake hope.


465 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:11 AM PDT by mel
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To: Swordmaker

we need to research the history,but i do seem recall some other countries or territories had a transition period. you have partial autonomy with full independence at a later date.


466 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:12 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: STARWISE

Oh I am so sorry to hear that. And relieved. and angry.

God Bless your Military!


467 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:23 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: snowsislander
Could Google be mistaken? Yes, they certainly could. But I think the odds are good enough that there is a problem that I don't hesitate to call it infected.

Thanks for the data. Just to be safe, I'm going to run Malwarebytes anti-malware program before I shut down.

468 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:40 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Salamander

get that in comics as well.


469 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:50 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: bustinchops

Most people cannot understand intel and counter intel much less playing the game of passing on intel to make the other intel services either pursue it or to make them believe it false in order to create faith in a different direction.

The Russians are very good at this as they are chessplayers, America is not so subtle and often just uses a simple frontal effect when giving out propaganda.

Its just a little hobby of mine.

Always assume the other side knows the same thing as you do.


470 posted on 08/02/2009 4:12:57 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Windflier; jellybean

Thank you .... I forgot that .. I’m
always on yahoo, so that’s where I
naturally go.


471 posted on 08/02/2009 4:13:00 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: SE Mom; Swordmaker
So far I gather there MAY be a COLB for him from Kenya- but it makes him three years younger than we thought AND it’s not clear this IS authentic.

Here's the document in question (courtesy of SwordMaker's quick work extracting it):

The document itself purports to be from 1964, and it shows an ostensible Obama birth in 1961.

It has quite a bit of control information so it should be possible to search through the original records and see if the document's information is accurate.

472 posted on 08/02/2009 4:13:15 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Kennard

I’ll concede the point for now, but that’s not enough determine that this document is fraudulent. It may very well have been common practice for the Kenyan government in 1964 in anticipation by placing the ‘Republic of Kenya’ on their letterhead.


473 posted on 08/02/2009 4:14:04 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SE Mom

More coffee, ladybug!

His DOB isn’t in question.

(not yet, at least)

LOL


474 posted on 08/02/2009 4:14:28 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Mount Athos

I did a word search for the term “Republic” on that PDF file.

You are correct, in that version “republic” does not appear.


475 posted on 08/02/2009 4:14:58 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: 2111USMC
See Post 258.

They used the word “Republic” in their Constitution.


Only if you are looking at a version of Kenyas constitution as amended after 1964... Look at their original constitution of 1963, it doesn't call Kenya a republic.

http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf
476 posted on 08/02/2009 4:15:08 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Read post 473.


477 posted on 08/02/2009 4:15:19 AM PDT by Red Steel
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As Scarlett said:

Tommorrow is another day

Dam Im wasted


478 posted on 08/02/2009 4:15:55 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Marguerite

I’m not even going to bother to read all those ‘reports’ again, I know them all off by heart. The address in the Polk Directory, in the name of Anna Obama is ‘confirmed’ by a woman named Mary Toutinghi who says she lived in a next door apartment, her husband’s name was Joseph, she said she used to babysit, she said the child never fussed, blah blah blah...and Susan Blake, she’s made her speech, (she changed the nappy,) sounding like she was reading from a script written by a journalist, the same Susan Blake who spent 10 years on the board of the Mercer Island School...right?

And Mary Toutinghi swears she never voted for obama, oh no no no...yet here she is, complaining about what happened to the obama sign in her yard:

http://redoubtreporter.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/sign-of-the-times-campaign-propaganda-disappears-from-central-peninsula-yards-roadsides-3/

No wonder there’s a marxist in the White House!


479 posted on 08/02/2009 4:16:18 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Kennard

They called themselves a republic in their 1963 constitution, as per http://www.constitutionnet.org/en/vl/constituion-kenya


480 posted on 08/02/2009 4:16:30 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Daisyjane69; snowsislander

More coffee indeed! Thanks for the clarification and for the picture. Do you know yet how this came to be discovered by Orly?


481 posted on 08/02/2009 4:17:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Red Steel

Maybe his mother requested it in order to secure U. S. citizenship because they were divorcing and she was afraid Hussein sr would try to take her son back to Kenya or wherever he went after the divorce.

The green document looks brand new, hot off the press.


482 posted on 08/02/2009 4:17:27 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Daisyjane69
thanks. You said it better than I did.

It just amazes me that all of us are sitting here, typing on the world's greatest research tool every created, and so few of us bother to take the time to do a little basic research! I always base my posts on researched facts... and not post picked-out-of-my-nose assertions, based on mere assumptions, that could be confirmed or falsified by a couple of minutes of Googling (Lately it's gotten harder to find useful data on Google, especially about this issue). I was please to see your posts showing someone besides me was doing that basic vetting. Thanks, right back at you.

483 posted on 08/02/2009 4:17:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Eye of Unk

Heck, that’s sometimes even done in political campaigns/sides. E.g., Democrat oppo research given to someone in the Republican party to use/reveal.


484 posted on 08/02/2009 4:17:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jemian

Ya know, it’s ..... all .... too ...... possible.

GULP!

I’m anxiously awaiting with ya, Jem .. all the way.... smooch!


485 posted on 08/02/2009 4:17:36 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Daisyjane69
Here’s what I usually say to my sweetie: “Sorry I overslept, babe. I was just doing my small part to save the Republic.” LOL

She's a red-blooded American gal. Maybe it'll work this once. LOL

I might even try the other technique. She'd like that!

486 posted on 08/02/2009 4:18:20 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rxsid

Oh shucks, we were getting so used to getting screwed by our gov’t over this and other matters, and now this comes along.


487 posted on 08/02/2009 4:18:52 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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To: wiggen

didn’t the british turn over some country in the Pacific within the last twenty years? I can’t remember the exact country.


488 posted on 08/02/2009 4:20:25 AM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: TChad

“So maybe it can be checked against the original.”.

Maybe, unless it’s been “disappeared”. Remember, Odingo or whatever the name of Kenya’s president is is a buddy of ostammer’s.


489 posted on 08/02/2009 4:20:39 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Boucheau
You don't suppose someone is trying to scare people from reading her site? I scanned the site 2 days ago and today with Endpoint and it is clean.
490 posted on 08/02/2009 4:20:46 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: politicalmerc
Hey guys, it doesn't matter if this is a COLB OR A BC. This says specifically where he was born!

True, true. There may be less reason to worry over what the doc is called, though. Check John Valentine's post at #284 for an excellent explanation of why.

491 posted on 08/02/2009 4:20:53 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Can you believe this many people are up in the middle of the night

And people in the east are getting up now. The numbers on this are going to go wild.

492 posted on 08/02/2009 4:21:06 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama - fooling fewer people every day.)
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To: STARWISE

I’m beginning to swing toward cautiously optimistic.

I’ll be waiting, but from horizontal position with my eyes shut. I gotta get some sleep ~~ but in a little bit. This is very interesting.


493 posted on 08/02/2009 4:21:06 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Caligula is pure evil.)
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To: rxsid; pissant; Polarik

whew! Possible game changer?

POLARIK - kindly train your experts eye upon the link labeled “Barry’s Kenyan B.C.??”... looks like something you could help here with.

JG


494 posted on 08/02/2009 4:21:14 AM PDT by Jacksonian Grouch (God has granted us Freedom; we owe Him our courage in return)
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To: Swordmaker
Quite some time. The British did not just cut their colonies loose. In this case, the Republic of Kenya was declared on December 12, 1963 when they ratified their constitution by a 63% vote.

I see you are still spreading a falsehood despite having had the facts shown to you.

What's up with that?

Kenya declared independence in 1963. They were not a republic at that time.

They declared themselves a republic in december of 1964.

This means that Kenya was not a republic, when this document stamped as "republic of kenya" was made.

Feel free to inspect the original constitution of kenya in 1963, and notice that the word republic does not appear anywhere in it.

http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf
495 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:07 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Lobbyist

hong kong


496 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:12 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: Windflier

Well, we will learn what we will learn (if this document is authenticated) and it is this:

Are we who we always believed we were, or are we now an official banana republic?

The thing that made this country unique to its time, and perhaps unique to all times is that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. The notion that regular citizens were equal to the rulers, in the eyes of the law, was positively revolutionary at the time.

This isn’t some third world rathole, where there are rulers and the ruled. In this country, a poor minority or single mom, or immigrant is SUPPOSED to have equal weight before a judge as anyone else. Period.

This is going to be our time to find out, perhaps. It’s on.


497 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:19 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: politicalmerc
...and she would promptly KILL HIM and eat his head

...And then Cankles would get feet in mouth and any other prion based neurodeficit she could catch. It would be an interesting meltdown...

498 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: woofie

We need to find the Links but this is CRITICAL!:

Back in the Spring of 2007 when OBOZO was alrady running for TOTUS! Sen. FEINSTEIN introduced Legislation that would allow NON-Natural Born Citizens run for and be eligible to be President of the United States! Six other Demorat Senators joined her in Co-sponsoring this Bill. One of the Co-Sponsors was B. HUSSEIN OBAMA, himself! This indicats to me that the RATSknew about this “problem”and were trying to eliminate it before it reared it’s ugly head. That is why they tried to prove McCain , the WAR Hero, would be ineligible by this “Stupid Rule” as well and hoped to get the Republican Backing to eliminate one more key facet of OUR CONSTITUTION!! The significance is that this push shows the RATS had somebody(HUSSEIN) they wanted to run and they knew from the start that the IDIOT was born in KENYA and was just as Ineligible to run as is Shwarzzenegger orHenry Kissinger or George SOROS!


499 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:50 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Swordmaker

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500 posted on 08/02/2009 4:22:59 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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