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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Try reading the constitution of the U.S.
It definately requires a Natural Born Citizen, and by the definition of the day, as given in The Law of Nations, it means that both parents were U.S. citizens.
Hawiian law has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this.
The Kenyan copy is an exactly copy of the original birth certificate!!
It is NOT a certification of life birth, it is a true copy of the B.C. We don't use all the information of attending nurses/doctors/hospitals, etc. In former years in Europe, at least in Scandinavia, people were born in their homes or also in special private birth clinics owned by midwives. Again my B.C. (1931) looks like this one, and so do the copies later on that I had to submit with my immigration application, and let me tell you, all required papers were very much scrutinized by the U.S. Consular offices abroad before accepted. You had to list every single residential address you had lived on since you were born!!!
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The only reason Orley has petitioned the court is to establish a Chain of Possession between the origin of the documentation and it's appearance in court as evidence.
Only documentation that has this criteria established are allowed to be presented in a court of law.
There may be hundreds of copies, butare no good unless they meet this criteria to be evidential.
Thanks for looking it up... I’ll go and check it out... but right now, I’m off for some swimming in this hot weather, today... :-) gotta get some pool supplies, do some cleaning of the pool and then lounging around... but thanks...
Thank you for the great work you have done.
The Supreme Court so far doesn’t seem that interested and that disturbs me. No one who is such a blank slate as this man, should be able to skate through the process without showing who he really is and what his life consisted of. ie college records, medical records etc.
I dunno, something just stinks. I could produce my long form birth certificate in minutes and surely it makes one wonder why such a simple thing to do would be fought against for voraciously? The cost too???? I’m not satisfied myself. CO
Yeah I get that TE. AS in McCain, born to two American citizens in Panama on a US Military base - NBC!! CO
What else does Dad think about this whole case?
I think your right about that Nana. In a real revolution, all the silly labels just fly right off LOL!! CO
Silverleaf, thanks so very much. I’m scanning now, but there’s nothing so far.
ROFL Good one!
I believe you could find out the names of the homes friend. The issue I was seeking to prove was whether Stanley Ann or Ann Dunham was a patient in the Vancouver General Hospital on the relevant dates as even a doctor with admitting privileges even today, could only get that kind of information. The only doctor that could get medical information would be her doctor. But it would be sufficient to proof if she was a patient in that hospital on the day of his birth. That basically gives you everything you need.
And yes, there was a ferry that went to the United States but I don’t recall folks not having to produce evidence of who they were tho. And also, as to unwed mothers homes, I believe these girls were admitted to them before the birth and then to the hospital for the birth, and then if necessary, back to the unwed mother’s home for a short period. All that would need to be verified however. But I trained in the 60’s (65-68) and I don’t recall there be many unwed mother’s homes.
We’ve been following it from the beginning and I used to post his comments, until they ended up all over the websites.
In a nut shell: When the lawyers get the right defendents, with the right plaintiff, and the right premise, the right decision will be made.
WOW!! That is quite the piece of writing isn’t it? And I agree, it will never be accomplished “peacefully”. This man has NO intention, in my view, of ever leaving the White House. In his perverted mind, America is now HIS to with as he pleases. Probably the most evil President to ever to be “dropped” into office.
With all the Acorn voter Fraud, and all the secrets, I’m not sure if he was even elected. How many millions of illegal votes were there? Who will ever know. And I doubt that he is even worried about the 2010 elections as Acorn is already taking care of that!! Nope, it’s too late for marching with placards. They simply laugh. THEY and HE has the reigns now. Once all the protesters are legally labelled “domestic terrorists” then they can do with YOU (plural) as they see fit. Something must be done before he institutes his own brown shirt army with all the funding and arming needed to keep the King in power. CO
Where it syas Signature of Registrar, why is B. F. Lavender’s name typed, not signed and typed?
All of the cases held the officials at the state level responsible. If argued in court they would have rightfully said that this was not in their job description. And BO would have said “I won”
When a valid case comes before the judicial system and a ruling is made against BO, they will take the cases off the table and rule on them.
She’s right. All that split hairs lingo they are coming out with. If they can come out and say “He was born in Hawaii”, then they can produce the evidence. Either they can or can’t provide or discuss it. It can’t be both or they are violating law one way or the other.
One of the bigger lies in this birther smear is that the birthers are just trying to prove he’s not natural born so they can demand he be impeached. As you can see, someone is actually seeking the truth, wherever it may lead. Truth is the ultimate goal.
The Oval Office resident has refused to allow the American people to know the truth of this liar. Exposing the facts will be sufficient to end his endorsement by the people, sooner rather than later. If the people cease to worship this bastard, 2010 will sweep the democrats from power and give America a fighting chance to reverse the catastrophic legislation now in and being pushed through without being read by Dems or Pubbies alike!
The truth will set U.S. free of the demon spell Obama has over the electorate. THAT is the goal, much more so than proving he was born in Kenya or Canada! Dissolve the lies undergirding this bastard and we end his enchantment of the people. He is ‘the goblin fire’ incarnate.
Thank you. Very helpful, and I’m impressed.
You apparently just completed a full decade on FR. Congrats.
Really?? I was given to understand that many of them were dismissed due to “lack of standing”. I’m glad to be wrong. CO
It worries me just as much that no one cares to pursue it. Either they know something, or they are scared (of public opinion or other) to make an issue out of it.
I don’t like it either way.
Because this is a 1964 certification of information found in birth registry books from 1961. E. F. Lavender supposedly made the registration entries in 1961. He’s not issuing this certification in 1964, someone else is. The person issuing the 1964 certification signs the 1964 certification. E. F. Lavender, presumably, signed the book entry in 1961 but we don’t have that in front of us—we sure as H.... wish we did. But Obama sent Rahm over to seal it up.
A couple we dismissed for lack of standing....”wrong plaintiffs”...but not all.
Speaking of boats, apparently one of Stanley's Seattle friends mentioned that she had received a post card from Stanley on a boat in the summer of 1981. SHE LATER REATRACTED HER STATEMENT.
I believe that she is one of a handful of Stanley's acquaintances who later retracted something that they said about BHO. Sounds fishy to me.
What year was that? 1981?
A boat to Kenya ???
With Obama Sr during the summer vacation between semesters....
To be there in the first week of August 1961...
Slaves were subjects too, until Britain outlawed slavery. Before that date, slaves were subjects but not citizens.
The real problem isn't one of laws, it is on of morals. You can make all the laws you wish, amoral men will still choose to circumvent them.
I still have my Dad’s Royal - dates from the early 1900’s.
When I took my first typing test on an IBM Selectric, having learned on his Royal, I typed over 100 wpm as I didn’t have to PUSH the keys and had speed instead of key-force!!!
Ok - back to the topic of Kenya, which I’ve learned more about than I ever wanted to know, and frankly, forget anyone from Chicago, I’m thinking most Kenyans don’t know the history as presented on this thread.
It’s one of the things I love about Free Republic - I learn so much.
Please refer to him as SIR EDWARD F. LAVENDER.
From another thread:To: pissant
So much going on.. not sure if this was already caught:
From TexasDarlins blog:
on August 3, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Reply lev8mysoul I asked a british history buff I know if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961. He called me up a few minutes ago and said Sir Edward F. Lavender Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library
Interestingly also a Yahoo question by the same person(?)
Africa & Middle East > Kenya > Resolved Question Lev8myso... Member since: October 28, 2007 Total points: 9979 (Level 5) Add to My Contacts Block User Resolved QuestionShow me another » Who was British colonial registrar in Mombasa Kenya in 1961? I’m trying to find out the name of the registrar in Mombasa in 1961, who would have registered the births, marriages, etc. at that time.
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by larry Member since: August 03, 2009 Total points: 113 (Level 1) Add to My Contacts
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Sir Edward F. Lavender Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library 2 days ago
203 posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:09:16 AM by RubyR
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Excellent post (6977). Just wanted to remind folks that the Kenya Grandmother also testified that she was at BHO birth in Kenya!
And, unless SIR EDWARD F. LAVENDER (I need to learn how to increase the font, bold it and make it flash red)
has a relative on his father’s side who has the exact same job in Australia, then the Kenyan COLB is more authentic that the Aussie one.
I love the sleuthing skills of FR!
IF an honest judge ever allows a case to go into discovery, Eric Holder’s Justice Department will instantly seal it and take it over as a federal matter of national security. Not a single case is going to be allowed to come through discovery and reveal the truth to the American people. There are too many lies and fabrications in Barry’s past to allow truth to come out on him from a lowly court case.
The problem is that Orly's motion doesn't say where she got this copy. So the chain of custody is already broken.
The document presented to the Court is also completely unauthenticated, and thus violates Rule 901(a) of the Federal Rules of Evidence. You cannot just go into federal court and say "this is a piece of paper and I want to conduct discovery to find out if it's genuine." There first has to be a showing of where the alleged copy came from sufficient to give the court a reasonable basis to conclude that it might be genuine.
My prediction (based on 31 years' experience practicing law in federal court) is that the court will reject it out of hand based on Orly's failure to present any evidence of where or how she got it.
The post number should be 6799...
You can't possibly be that dense and still function.
I nominate you for the Presidential Medal of Freedom to be awarded during the Palin administration.
That person won’t be safe until there is other evidence in hand authenticating the document such as the matching entry from the birth registry. Also, if I were in that person’s shoes, I would wait to see what the judge does with the case.
I drove to Vancouver BC back in the early ‘80s. The border check consisted of a Mountie asking my nationality on the way into Canada and a BP agent asking the same question on the way back into the USofA. Neither asked for ID. I guess I have an honest face?
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Yes. That is precisely why she asked the court to request a certified copy from Kenya/England.
That certified copy would have an unbroken evidentiary chain.