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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: MrLuigi
Just a coincident I'm sure./s
6,851 posted on 08/05/2009 9:52:00 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: silverleaf
I think she intended to go native and deliver in Kenya- when she recognized he was a bigamist and his family hated her white guts and would never accept her, and that being a minor African “wife" to a muslim in a polygamous marriage and in a culture where men were freely accepted to bang anyone they looked at... was not so glamorous after all..the "emotional cruelty" of her "marriage" began when she landed in Kenya and found out she was nothing but a minor trophy

She tried to get home to Mama - but being heavily preggers, instead got to a Brit-run colonial hospital and then back to Hawaii (or Seattle?) as fast as she could


Yep, I can agree with all that. Others were wondering why she had him in Mombasa when Nairobi was much closer to O Sr.'s home village. Trying to get back to Hawaii (or Seattle--good point) by boat, after the airline wouldn't let her fly, explains her presence in Mombasa.

Oh, well, it's all just speculation anyway. :)
6,852 posted on 08/05/2009 9:52:39 AM PDT by HoneysuckleTN
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To: FreeAlaska32

Try reading the constitution of the U.S.

It definately requires a Natural Born Citizen, and by the definition of the day, as given in The Law of Nations, it means that both parents were U.S. citizens.

Hawiian law has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this.


6,853 posted on 08/05/2009 9:54:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Windflier
Sorry, I did not mean to be rude!

The Kenyan copy is an exactly copy of the original birth certificate!!

It is NOT a certification of life birth, it is a true copy of the B.C. We don't use all the information of attending nurses/doctors/hospitals, etc. In former years in Europe, at least in Scandinavia, people were born in their homes or also in special private birth clinics owned by midwives. Again my B.C. (1931) looks like this one, and so do the copies later on that I had to submit with my immigration application, and let me tell you, all required papers were very much scrutinized by the U.S. Consular offices abroad before accepted. You had to list every single residential address you had lived on since you were born!!!

6,854 posted on 08/05/2009 9:57:43 AM PDT by danamco
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To: BP2

You’re the best.

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6793&posts=1#M19775


6,855 posted on 08/05/2009 9:58:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: Jewels7

Try malwarebytes - it has worked for me where Norton did not


6,856 posted on 08/05/2009 10:00:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: Natural Born 54; gandalftb
Dad, who is soon to be ninety, graduated top of law class, worked as a clerk in the Federal system and practiced law for fifty years says:

The only reason Orley has petitioned the court is to establish a Chain of Possession between the origin of the documentation and it's appearance in court as evidence.

Only documentation that has this criteria established are allowed to be presented in a court of law.

There may be hundreds of copies, butare no good unless they meet this criteria to be evidential.

6,857 posted on 08/05/2009 10:01:43 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SeattleBruce

Thanks for looking it up... I’ll go and check it out... but right now, I’m off for some swimming in this hot weather, today... :-) gotta get some pool supplies, do some cleaning of the pool and then lounging around... but thanks...


6,858 posted on 08/05/2009 10:05:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: BP2

Thank you for the great work you have done.


6,859 posted on 08/05/2009 10:13:54 AM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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To: Star Traveler

The Supreme Court so far doesn’t seem that interested and that disturbs me. No one who is such a blank slate as this man, should be able to skate through the process without showing who he really is and what his life consisted of. ie college records, medical records etc.

I dunno, something just stinks. I could produce my long form birth certificate in minutes and surely it makes one wonder why such a simple thing to do would be fought against for voraciously? The cost too???? I’m not satisfied myself. CO


6,860 posted on 08/05/2009 10:34:59 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: Technical Editor

Yeah I get that TE. AS in McCain, born to two American citizens in Panama on a US Military base - NBC!! CO


6,861 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:02 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: hoosiermama

What else does Dad think about this whole case?


6,862 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think your right about that Nana. In a real revolution, all the silly labels just fly right off LOL!! CO


6,863 posted on 08/05/2009 10:39:34 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: silverleaf

Silverleaf, thanks so very much. I’m scanning now, but there’s nothing so far.


6,864 posted on 08/05/2009 10:42:05 AM PDT by Jewels7
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To: rolling_stone

ROFL Good one!


6,865 posted on 08/05/2009 10:42:48 AM PDT by HoneysuckleTN
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To: MHGinTN

I believe you could find out the names of the homes friend. The issue I was seeking to prove was whether Stanley Ann or Ann Dunham was a patient in the Vancouver General Hospital on the relevant dates as even a doctor with admitting privileges even today, could only get that kind of information. The only doctor that could get medical information would be her doctor. But it would be sufficient to proof if she was a patient in that hospital on the day of his birth. That basically gives you everything you need.

And yes, there was a ferry that went to the United States but I don’t recall folks not having to produce evidence of who they were tho. And also, as to unwed mothers homes, I believe these girls were admitted to them before the birth and then to the hospital for the birth, and then if necessary, back to the unwed mother’s home for a short period. All that would need to be verified however. But I trained in the 60’s (65-68) and I don’t recall there be many unwed mother’s homes.


6,866 posted on 08/05/2009 10:45:21 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: BP2

Thanks, BP2

Amazing research!

Ping.


6,867 posted on 08/05/2009 10:47:07 AM PDT by Iowan
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To: silverleaf

We’ve been following it from the beginning and I used to post his comments, until they ended up all over the websites.

In a nut shell: When the lawyers get the right defendents, with the right plaintiff, and the right premise, the right decision will be made.


6,868 posted on 08/05/2009 10:49:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Jacksonian Grouch

WOW!! That is quite the piece of writing isn’t it? And I agree, it will never be accomplished “peacefully”. This man has NO intention, in my view, of ever leaving the White House. In his perverted mind, America is now HIS to with as he pleases. Probably the most evil President to ever to be “dropped” into office.

With all the Acorn voter Fraud, and all the secrets, I’m not sure if he was even elected. How many millions of illegal votes were there? Who will ever know. And I doubt that he is even worried about the 2010 elections as Acorn is already taking care of that!! Nope, it’s too late for marching with placards. They simply laugh. THEY and HE has the reigns now. Once all the protesters are legally labelled “domestic terrorists” then they can do with YOU (plural) as they see fit. Something must be done before he institutes his own brown shirt army with all the funding and arming needed to keep the King in power. CO


6,869 posted on 08/05/2009 10:54:08 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: rxsid

Where it syas Signature of Registrar, why is B. F. Lavender’s name typed, not signed and typed?


6,870 posted on 08/05/2009 10:55:45 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Canadian Outrage
The SCOTUS cases have not been dismissed but tabled. They have been tabled because, they had the wrong defendants and plaintiffs. If the Court had heard them they would have had to rule in BO favor, which they did not want to do.

All of the cases held the officials at the state level responsible. If argued in court they would have rightfully said that this was not in their job description. And BO would have said “I won”

When a valid case comes before the judicial system and a ruling is made against BO, they will take the cases off the table and rule on them.

6,871 posted on 08/05/2009 10:56:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SatinDoll

She’s right. All that split hairs lingo they are coming out with. If they can come out and say “He was born in Hawaii”, then they can produce the evidence. Either they can or can’t provide or discuss it. It can’t be both or they are violating law one way or the other.


6,872 posted on 08/05/2009 10:59:21 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Canadian Outrage; BP2; Beckwith; Polarik; LucyT; mojitojoe; Tennessee Nana; Jim Robinson

One of the bigger lies in this birther smear is that the birthers are just trying to prove he’s not natural born so they can demand he be impeached. As you can see, someone is actually seeking the truth, wherever it may lead. Truth is the ultimate goal.

The Oval Office resident has refused to allow the American people to know the truth of this liar. Exposing the facts will be sufficient to end his endorsement by the people, sooner rather than later. If the people cease to worship this bastard, 2010 will sweep the democrats from power and give America a fighting chance to reverse the catastrophic legislation now in and being pushed through without being read by Dems or Pubbies alike!

The truth will set U.S. free of the demon spell Obama has over the electorate. THAT is the goal, much more so than proving he was born in Kenya or Canada! Dissolve the lies undergirding this bastard and we end his enchantment of the people. He is ‘the goblin fire’ incarnate.


6,873 posted on 08/05/2009 11:00:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: BP2

Thank you. Very helpful, and I’m impressed.

You apparently just completed a full decade on FR. Congrats.


6,874 posted on 08/05/2009 11:01:16 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: hoosiermama

Really?? I was given to understand that many of them were dismissed due to “lack of standing”. I’m glad to be wrong. CO


6,875 posted on 08/05/2009 11:02:22 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Add boiled potatoes and steamed green peas, for the extra vities and intestinal roughage. I make the potatoes into cheesy smashed taters. And add the pease to it so I can eat while reading. ... the pease stick to the taters and don't litter the floor from inattention. ;^)
6,876 posted on 08/05/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

It worries me just as much that no one cares to pursue it. Either they know something, or they are scared (of public opinion or other) to make an issue out of it.

I don’t like it either way.


6,877 posted on 08/05/2009 11:05:46 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Kevmo
Google - an extreme leftist organization...this is typical of their socialist agenda. America needs to do something about how the Internet is filtered by these left loons.
6,878 posted on 08/05/2009 11:06:02 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: TBP

Because this is a 1964 certification of information found in birth registry books from 1961. E. F. Lavender supposedly made the registration entries in 1961. He’s not issuing this certification in 1964, someone else is. The person issuing the 1964 certification signs the 1964 certification. E. F. Lavender, presumably, signed the book entry in 1961 but we don’t have that in front of us—we sure as H.... wish we did. But Obama sent Rahm over to seal it up.


6,879 posted on 08/05/2009 11:07:32 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Faith

ping


6,880 posted on 08/05/2009 11:09:50 AM PDT by Hiskid (Jesus is Lord.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

A couple we dismissed for lack of standing....”wrong plaintiffs”...but not all.


6,881 posted on 08/05/2009 11:10:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: HoneysuckleTN
Trying to get back to Hawaii (or Seattle--good point) by boat, after the airline wouldn't let her fly

Speaking of boats, apparently one of Stanley's Seattle friends mentioned that she had received a post card from Stanley on a boat in the summer of 1981. SHE LATER REATRACTED HER STATEMENT.

I believe that she is one of a handful of Stanley's acquaintances who later retracted something that they said about BHO. Sounds fishy to me.

6,882 posted on 08/05/2009 11:16:58 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

What year was that? 1981?


6,883 posted on 08/05/2009 11:18:55 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Genoa

oops, 1961!


6,884 posted on 08/05/2009 11:20:10 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

A boat to Kenya ???

With Obama Sr during the summer vacation between semesters....

To be there in the first week of August 1961...

Oh, my...


6,885 posted on 08/05/2009 11:32:03 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cheburashka

Slaves were subjects too, until Britain outlawed slavery. Before that date, slaves were subjects but not citizens.


6,886 posted on 08/05/2009 11:39:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
****Well, what I would call dense is not seeing the reality of the matter at hand — that Obama and any other candidate has *no legal requirement* to show his birth certificate and being unable to figure out what to do about it... that’s the real problem...****

The real problem isn't one of laws, it is on of morals. You can make all the laws you wish, amoral men will still choose to circumvent them.

6,887 posted on 08/05/2009 11:43:34 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Salamander

Off topic.

I still have my Dad’s Royal - dates from the early 1900’s.

When I took my first typing test on an IBM Selectric, having learned on his Royal, I typed over 100 wpm as I didn’t have to PUSH the keys and had speed instead of key-force!!!

Ok - back to the topic of Kenya, which I’ve learned more about than I ever wanted to know, and frankly, forget anyone from Chicago, I’m thinking most Kenyans don’t know the history as presented on this thread.

It’s one of the things I love about Free Republic - I learn so much.


6,888 posted on 08/05/2009 11:45:14 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (RIP Tony Snow. - praying for his family and friends.)
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To: Houghton M.

Please refer to him as SIR EDWARD F. LAVENDER.

From another thread:To: pissant
So much going on.. not sure if this was already caught:

From TexasDarlins blog:

on August 3, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Reply lev8mysoul I asked a british history buff I know if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961. He called me up a few minutes ago and said “Sir Edward F. Lavender Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library”

Interestingly also a Yahoo question by the same person(?)

Africa & Middle East > Kenya > Resolved Question Lev8myso... Member since: October 28, 2007 Total points: 9979 (Level 5) Add to My Contacts Block User Resolved QuestionShow me another » Who was British colonial registrar in Mombasa Kenya in 1961? I’m trying to find out the name of the registrar in Mombasa in 1961, who would have registered the births, marriages, etc. at that time.

3 days ago Report Abuse

by larry Member since: August 03, 2009 Total points: 113 (Level 1) Add to My Contacts

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Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Sir Edward F. Lavender Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library 2 days ago
203 posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:09:16 AM by RubyR
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6,889 posted on 08/05/2009 11:49:26 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: BP2

Excellent post (6977). Just wanted to remind folks that the Kenya Grandmother also testified that she was at BHO birth in Kenya!


6,890 posted on 08/05/2009 11:50:25 AM PDT by txoilman
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

And, unless SIR EDWARD F. LAVENDER (I need to learn how to increase the font, bold it and make it flash red)

has a relative on his father’s side who has the exact same job in Australia, then the Kenyan COLB is more authentic that the Aussie one.

I love the sleuthing skills of FR!


6,891 posted on 08/05/2009 11:53:44 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: hoosiermama

IF an honest judge ever allows a case to go into discovery, Eric Holder’s Justice Department will instantly seal it and take it over as a federal matter of national security. Not a single case is going to be allowed to come through discovery and reveal the truth to the American people. There are too many lies and fabrications in Barry’s past to allow truth to come out on him from a lowly court case.


6,892 posted on 08/05/2009 11:54:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: hoosiermama
The only reason Orley has petitioned the court is to establish a Chain of Possession between the origin of the documentation and it's appearance in court as evidence. Only documentation that has this criteria established are allowed to be presented in a court of law.

The problem is that Orly's motion doesn't say where she got this copy. So the chain of custody is already broken.

The document presented to the Court is also completely unauthenticated, and thus violates Rule 901(a) of the Federal Rules of Evidence. You cannot just go into federal court and say "this is a piece of paper and I want to conduct discovery to find out if it's genuine." There first has to be a showing of where the alleged copy came from sufficient to give the court a reasonable basis to conclude that it might be genuine.

My prediction (based on 31 years' experience practicing law in federal court) is that the court will reject it out of hand based on Orly's failure to present any evidence of where or how she got it.

6,893 posted on 08/05/2009 11:56:11 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: txoilman

The post number should be 6799...


6,894 posted on 08/05/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by txoilman
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To: FreeAlaska32; voveo
The plural does not refer to two parents.

You can't possibly be that dense and still function.

6,895 posted on 08/05/2009 12:04:47 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: BP2

I nominate you for the Presidential Medal of Freedom to be awarded during the Palin administration.


6,896 posted on 08/05/2009 12:07:12 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: gandalftb

That person won’t be safe until there is other evidence in hand authenticating the document such as the matching entry from the birth registry. Also, if I were in that person’s shoes, I would wait to see what the judge does with the case.


6,897 posted on 08/05/2009 12:07:25 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: Canadian Outrage

I drove to Vancouver BC back in the early ‘80s. The border check consisted of a Mountie asking my nationality on the way into Canada and a BP agent asking the same question on the way back into the USofA. Neither asked for ID. I guess I have an honest face?


6,898 posted on 08/05/2009 12:10:24 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
And, unless SIR EDWARD F. LAVENDER (I need to learn how to increase the font, bold it and make it flash red)

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6,899 posted on 08/05/2009 12:14:49 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The problem is that Orly's motion doesn't say where she got this copy. So the chain of custody is already broken.

Yes. That is precisely why she asked the court to request a certified copy from Kenya/England.

That certified copy would have an unbroken evidentiary chain.

6,900 posted on 08/05/2009 12:17:25 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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