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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: FreeAlaska32

“It was a response to the belief that the children of a foreign national male are not US citizens regardless of the citizenship of the mother.

How ‘bout reading the thread before making knee-jerk comments. Hmmm?”

I read more than you know. But even though we may be on different pages or whatever, a NBC must have citizen parents. Even if the parents became citizens one hour before the birth.


6,961 posted on 08/05/2009 3:07:06 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: ghettofinger
Actually, it is retroactive.
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g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (
A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date.

Applies only to the part after ":Provided". That is what is meant by "this provision". If it applied to everything in subsection "g" it would have said "this subsection".

But don't believe me. Take a look at the notes section. It says:

Section 23(d) of Pub. L. 99–653, as added by Pub. L. 100–525, § 8(r), Oct. 24, 1988, 102 Stat. 2619, provided that: “The amendment made by section 12 [amending this section] shall apply to persons born on or after November 14, 1986.”

It also says :

1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.

The very law that changed the "residency requirement", also stated that it was only effective for children born after November 14, 1986.

But, nice try.

6,962 posted on 08/05/2009 3:11:38 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EternalVigilance
Two, California has thrown a presidential candidate, Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver, off the ballot before because he did not meet the constitutional test.

I did not know that. In what way did he not meet the Constitutional requirment?

6,963 posted on 08/05/2009 3:13:17 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
"A Republic, if you can keep it."

BINGO! You caught me and discerned where I found my screen name! ;)

6,964 posted on 08/05/2009 3:14:43 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JimColt
“Sir Edward F. Lavender Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library

Sign up just to post that? It's your only post so far after signing up today.

While interesting, it needs expansion. It's a might on the cryptic side.

6,965 posted on 08/05/2009 3:16:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Since his arrival at the White House, Barack Obama has been touted as `King of the World’ rather than USA president.

As King of the World, does Obama really need born-in-USA status? On the occasion of their president’s 48th birthday yesterday, Americans still don’t know for certain from where he came, only where he is leading them.

There was a mammoth picture of the Birthday Boy on display outside the White House, but no pictures of him pursing his lips to blow out the candles on a birthday cake, which may have served as a reminder that this is a president already well on his way to blowing out the lights of the Free World.

Thus far the only `proof’ of Obama’s murky past comes from the romantic version of his life as spun in his book, Dreams of My Father.

Some people’s dreams are other folk’s nightmares.

Global citizens and Kings of the World find home at the United Nations, which operates as a law unto itself.

When Obama emerges to his rightful throne as King of the World, will his missing birth certificate and school records be swallowed up by UN diplomatic immunity?

The long-awaited debut of Obama at the UN is happening right on schedule. Obama will chair “a special meeting of the U.N, Security Council on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament”. According to U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice, that meeting will take place on Sept. 24 during the annual summit of the U.N. General Assembly.

There is no doubt that the sovereignty of the US, notwithstanding, the United Nations is a law unto itself.

A pig sty of corruption, and a body that blows its time on incessant talk while people die in genocides, the UN is also the main source of this summer’s “you’re all going to die” pandemic predictions that have yet to lead to the public panic needed to invoke martial law.

Most fittingly to some, UN headquarters originated on the grounds of an abattoir where screams of animals being led to slaughter could be heard, as a “gift” from Rockefeller family money.

Diplomatic Immunity, which could only have originated at the UN, has created virtual untouchables. According to Reader’s Digest, “The UN rarely gets much done, but somehow its officials are still too busy to park legally. Between 1997 and the end of 2002, foreign diplomats racked up more than 150,000 unpaid parking tickets—totaling a staggering $17 million. But thanks to diplomatic immunity, the city has no power to collect.

Is it a foregone conclusion that the UN granted Obama the unassailable right to be a law unto himself, with or without the personal documents proving who he really is?

BHO began identifying himself as a “global citizen” even before election. Perhaps rather than coming off as grandiose, he was really telling the truth.

UN-bestowed diplomatic immunity has protected other high rollers in the now all but forgotten Oil for Food Scandal.

Some of those high rollers are now part of the Obama team of czars. Paul Volcker, charged by personal friend, former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan to investigate the scandal, only added to the level of frustration.

UN Poster Boy numero uno, Canadian Maurice Strong who accepted a $1 million cheque courtesy of oil-for-food main player Saddam Hussein (although he contends he did know at the time the money came from Hussein) went on to invest in the Chery car company, stated intention of which was to bring America’s auto industry to its knees with the likes of Obama bagman George Soros.

Soros has close ties to former UN Deputy Secretary General Baron Mark Malloch-Brown.

Is Obama thumbing his nose at Americans who want to see his birth certificate because he knows his back is covered by UN diplomatic immunity?

Is there a Grand Plan keeping the the most anti-American president ever elected in the White House?

Barack Obama is a self-admitted global citizen who can do whatever he wants to America, and just like the organization which foments for One World Government that spawned him, is really a power until himself.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13403

SEPT 24TH YIKES!!


6,966 posted on 08/05/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: BP2

I find it interesting that after Madelyn retired from the banking field, in 1982 I believe, she either volunteered or worked in/for the courthouse. Just came across that tidbit the other day in an article from a few years ago.


6,967 posted on 08/05/2009 3:24:41 PM PDT by Prince of Space ("I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the court-appointed psychiatrist is our friend")
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To: null and void; Lurking Libertarian

From null and void, tracing the path of the Kerry subthread: “machogirl 5548> null and void 6022> machogirl 6039> Bikkuri 6135> machogirl 6285> Bikkuri 6293, 6302> machogirl 6329, SeattleBruce 6912> Eagle Forgotten 6925>”

Wow, you have a lot of patience to reconstruct that. It’s the kind of attention to detail that Orly Taitz might need a little bit more of.

You worked out the chain of a digresson on FR but she’s going into court without stating the chain of custody of a critical document. I agree with the posts by LurkingLibertarian that this is going to be a problem for her.

(Just trying to steer this Kerry thing back on-topic....)


6,968 posted on 08/05/2009 3:26:24 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: freedommom

Since his arrival at the White House, Barack Obama has been touted as `King of the World’ rather than USA president.


One day he will answer to the King of Kings!!


6,969 posted on 08/05/2009 3:30:05 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SeattleBruce

He would have only been 34 on Election Day. So, even though CA had let him on the ballot, when his age was discovered, they threw him off.

Separate requirement. Same part of the Constitution that governs this case.


6,970 posted on 08/05/2009 3:35:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: SeattleBruce
Does ‘citizen at birth’ mean ‘natural born citizen?’ That is something I think the SCOTUS must decide. I’m not sure if they have the guts to take this on.

Not in the sense that "citizen at birth" is defined under a naturalization statute, passed pursuent to the Congress' power to define a uniform rule of naturalization, while "natural born citizen" is a Constitutional term. It means whatever it meant in 1787. It cannot be changed by statute, any more than the meaning of "solider" or "house" could be in regards to the meaning of the third amendment.

6,971 posted on 08/05/2009 3:39:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EternalVigilance

THANKS FOR EXPLAINING, EV. (Ooops, hit the Cap key by accident.)


6,972 posted on 08/05/2009 3:41:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SeattleBruce
Are you basing that on Ann Dunham not meeting the qualifications of the US Statute in 1961, if BO were born in Kenya, or the subsequent law, which she does seem to qualify under, and is retroactive to 1952 births. Perhaps David can clarify that.

That provision was not retroactive, only a provision counting time spent overseas in the miltary or the employ of the US government as time in residence in the US. Thus someone who's father was shipped to Germany in 1953 and married his German mother there and was born in Germany after his father's 19th birthday, would be a US citizen, as of 1986 when the law was passed, but would not have been before.

6,973 posted on 08/05/2009 3:45:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Placemark/


6,974 posted on 08/05/2009 3:46:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MHGinTN

“Dissolve the lies undergirding this bastard and we end his enchantment of the people. He is ‘the goblin fire’ incarnate.”

Well said!


6,975 posted on 08/05/2009 3:48:06 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: SeattleBruce
Can you remind us, or point us to, the specifics in that case?

Cleaver was 33 years old.
6,976 posted on 08/05/2009 3:50:12 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: El Gato; JimColt; Andy from Chapel Hill; BP2

Check post 6889 by Andy from Chapel Hill.

Note though that I tried to search the Australian Library as well as the British Library on line for “Kenya Dominion Record” and came up with zero. Don’t know if any Freeper in good standing has been able to verify this. Not all books are available on the net, and some research must be made by foot or phone (see BP2’s post 6799).


6,977 posted on 08/05/2009 3:52:55 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SeattleBruce

I’m pretty sure Nicaraguan socialist Roger Calero was also removed from a couple of states’ ballots last year, since he is not an American citizen, much less natural born.

The sad thing, and most telling about where we are, is that Calero actually made it ON a few states’ ballots.


6,978 posted on 08/05/2009 3:55:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just say NO to national socialism!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I did not know that. In what way did he not meet the Constitutional requirement?

Cleaver was too young to hold the office.

I guess he showed his BC...

6,979 posted on 08/05/2009 4:02:21 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 196 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: EternalVigilance

In a way that’s quite helpful. because it shows how woefully inadequate the present screening of the candidates is.


6,980 posted on 08/05/2009 4:03:19 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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