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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping.


10,841 posted on 10/22/2012 10:31:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: bitt
And this from the local (Indiana) attorney:

"from attorney Greg Black regarding today’s hearing (Dr. Taitz's site)

Greg Black 1:02 PM (52 minutes ago) to me, Karl Orly fine job. I will have proposals to you by sometime in a.m. Thanks to each of you for bringing me in. What a thrill. Chris, Mr. Papa, Paul, were A # 1 and Orly hit a big big home run with Paul. NO evidence against us. Greg"

10,842 posted on 10/22/2012 10:37:33 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: bitt

Perhaps this is the “big October Surprise” Donald Trump is referring to. Perhaps not. I’m half awake at this point, as I indicated in my personal email to you. I did take note of the large increments over time as this post has grown. Now it appears Attorney Taitz may have finally made some real headway on this issue, being where BHO really was born.


10,843 posted on 10/22/2012 11:37:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: bitt

Hmmmmm........looks promising. Thanks for the ping.

The truth always rises to the surface and it will eventually here too.


10,844 posted on 10/23/2012 6:48:25 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


10,845 posted on 10/24/2012 9:05:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping to the long thread. FWIW

Allegedly, BO Sr's. April 29, 1959 British passport has been uncovered:

Notice the date of birth - 18.6.1934. (June 18th, 1934).

Didn't he mention sometime later, that his DOB was June 18, 1936 (2 years difference)?

Also, no wife or children are listed, even though BO Sr. is alleged to have married his first wife Kezia in 1954 and their first son Roy was born March 15, 1958. Both in time to be listed on the 1959 passport, but aren't.

10,846 posted on 04/11/2013 10:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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rxsid, I suspect Obama, Sr’s first wife/child aren’t listed on the passport because he was traveling alone. I don’t know how it’s handled now in a post-9/11 world, but back in the 60s, a single passport would be issued for an entire family under the assumption that they would travel together as a single unit.


10,847 posted on 04/11/2013 11:03:20 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rxsid

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IMMIGRATION FILE

So the kenyan student was 25 years of age in September 1962 and he was 25 years of age in August 1961 according to the 'birth certificate' for his 'son' born in Hawaii.

But in April 1964 he shows his birth year as 1936 - and if you study the form carefully, you'll find that he, in his own hand, has named his wife as Ann Obama - and has no son.

And now, to make it all a little more interesting, we need to study this Memo:

Look carefully. The same hand which completed the form dated April 21, 1964 - wrote the name Barack Obama TWICE on the memo in August 1961.

10,848 posted on 04/11/2013 2:22:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: rxsid; LucyT; Fred Nerks; David
Didn't he mention sometime later, that his DOB was June 18, 1936 (2 years difference)?

He never mentioned anything different. His INS documents also showed June 18, 1934.

It was his tombstone that was mismarked. That's why the wrong age was placed on the forged BC.
10,849 posted on 04/11/2013 4:08:31 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; David

It’s a little more complicated than that...he used both years.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=10848#10848

But he didn’t use 1936 until three weeks after the miracle birth in Hawaii...and THAT coincides with the 25 years of age on the forged BC.


10,850 posted on 04/11/2013 5:02:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: rxsid; LucyT; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; cripplecreek; SunkenCiv; stockpirate; ckilmer; ...
Also, no wife or children are listed...

I think it's quite obvious that the main purpose of Barack Sr.'s obtaining that passport at that time was to come to Hawaii as a student. And knowing of his lifestyle once he arrived on American soil, it's a safe bet to assume that he didn't want any of his new friends in the US to know about his family in Kenya. So he conveniently neglected them on his passport. That's the simplest explanation.

10,851 posted on 04/11/2013 5:25:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred,

Also, in the memo, the “Barack” is written in longhand, while the “Obama” is printed.


10,852 posted on 04/11/2013 5:35:37 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93

Sounds quite possible.

Possible he lied about age

Is the doc with the “1936” birthdate date- stamped later than the one with the “1934”.

I.e. does it show he wanted to be “younger” to stay here longer?


10,853 posted on 04/11/2013 5:46:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93; Fred Nerks

Woah,

the 1962 doc has 1934 for the birth year.

Two years later....

the 1964 doc has 1936 filled in for the birth year!

Yup, lied to buy himself more time!


10,854 posted on 04/11/2013 5:51:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93
There's another 'simple' explanation...he simply wasn't married to Kezia and he had no children. In 'Dreams' words are put into the mouth of Auma; 'granny' Sarah tells them, as they dispute who should inherit, none of you are his children

Now why would that be included in 'Dreams' unless is was common knowledge and had to be dealt with? When Auma speaks again, she explains that the outburst was due to 'granny' Sarah's jealousy.

There was no reason for Sarah to be jealous. She's the mother of Yusuf, one of the surviving sons of Onyango, and it's Yusuf who is the Clan Elder.

10,855 posted on 04/11/2013 5:59:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

Or he adjusted his birth year to coincide with the fake birth certificate that was created at the same time as the birth announcements were published...Mr & Mrs Obama, a Son. Remember?

He used 1934 as his birth year right up until he ‘became’ a father, as far as I can see.


10,856 posted on 04/11/2013 6:06:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

“It’s a little more complicated than that...he used both years.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=10848#10848

But he didn’t use 1936 until three weeks after the miracle birth in Hawaii...and THAT coincides with the 25 years of age on the forged BC.”

I have a question on this part:

“But he didn’t use 1936 until three weeks after the miracle birth....”

OK, youre saying the first time he started using “1936” was in 1961?

And does that mean the forging started (matching the COLB birth year) back then?


10,857 posted on 04/11/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

Why would he adjust his birth year to match a forged b.c.?

Why wouldn’t the forgers put his birth year into the forged b.c.?


10,858 posted on 04/11/2013 6:10:00 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

That’s what it looks like. But don’t take my word for it, I posted the link to the immigration file, check it out. You might also take a closer look at the ‘Woods Memo’ - why does the handwriting of a memo dated August 31, 1961, match the handwriting on a document from 1964?

There are no easy or quick answers, you need to become familiar with the contents.


10,859 posted on 04/11/2013 6:12:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57
Why wouldn’t the forgers put his birth year into the forged b.c.?

Maybe they knew something we don't know. There were two brothers, one was two years older than the other. I can't tell you what went on, I can only show what I can see.

If he was born in 1934 he would have been 27 in 1961.

10,860 posted on 04/11/2013 6:20:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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