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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
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This is completely nuts. Over 4600 posts to a thread which begins with nothing but yet another in a long parade of evidence-free claims that some self-promoter has come up with “proof” that Obama is not eligible to be POTUS! Did any of the 9/11 threads even get this long?
I really worry about the direction FR is heading in. There’s nowhere near this much interest in Obama’s health care proposal, which is 100% real and could do serious and irreparable harm to our nation.
Na - na - what did we agree to a couple days ago???
I was rather surprised ... staples have been around a LONG time ... and became more common after WWII.
1870s ~ Individual Preformed Staples: The first desktop machine designed to fasten papers by inserting and clinching metallic staples was patented in 1877 (US. Patent No. 195,603). A number of the earliest machines held only one preformed wire staple at a time and had to be reloaded each time they were used. The photo to the right shows one such machine, a McGill Single-Stroke Staple Press No. 1, which was patented in 1879 and advertised during 1880-1909. To see several single-staple machines, click here.
OldStaplers.com reports that in 1868 and 1874, before the development of machines that both inserted and clinched staples, two patents were issued for machines that inserted, but that did not clinch, staples.
I have decided to stop doing the anonymous donations and just own up to my addiction with a Monthly donation of 30 bucks. It beats the crappola x2 out of world of WarCraft! LOL
Well, it's closing in on 5,000 posts.
But the question is really simple. The questioned document cites a book and a page and declares certain facts are contained therein. Thus, we don't really have to question the document. All we have to do is find the cited book and page and see if it asserts the claimed facts.
The reason the thread is so damned long is, nobody is content to wait for Orly to go across the pond and fail to find the cited document. Instead, everyone is convinced they already know the outcome.
Did I miss a “No love boat” restriction or something?
If Obama does come up with his “original” HI BC, it’ll have Obama’s mom’s sig on it, right? So what you’re saying is we’ll want handwriting samples of Obama’s mom and Obama’s grandma? We’re thinking that Obama’s mom’s handwriting is gonna look a lot like Obama’s grandma’s handwriting?
As to the first question, it is a fraudulent graphical political joke... the watermarked security paper says, in Dutch or Afrikaans, "This is not a legitimate government document. It is political commentary."
as for who needed one, most likely Ann. But its hard to say, could have been Sr.
I did not say she did not attend.
I dispute the dates.
It was something around 4waypasttotalcoherence .. AM this morning .. LOL
It’s 1:30am .. like 21 hrs. since this started .. and I’m just HALFWAY thru the dang thread @!!
I haven’t checked the other “might be fake bc” thread .. anything new about that ?
Hillary is using Book 44B as a coffee table?
No, what others think of him means nothing. It's only what he thinks of himself that matters.
Eyes are almost swollen shut. Pick it up here for tomorrow.
“A woman, even an elderly grandmother wouldnt satte that she was present when her son was born you fool! “
yet that is what the birthers claim she said.
What the full interview said is she said he was born in Hawaii. that is the truth.
That is the kind of B.C. I ONLY could present to with my immigration application papers!!
If we had had COLBS like in the U.S., my application would never have been accepted, so please get of the horse that this is only a Colb!!!
Not really. Other than what I Could research on my own today. Lavender is not an uncommon name in England. To an Eric Frank Lavender is not out of the realm of possibility. I don’t know that is what the EF stands for. But again, the names ought to be rather easy to track down on an official level, buy employment records.
There will be other records in the area as well of such a person, other avenues of search other than just the Government.
This is the process. If this is a rabbit trail, it's a rabbit trail. What, better to dismiss a question that nobody has adequately answered, least of all the man himself?
For the record, I remain agnostic on the BC issue (though this development is tempting). I suggest reading the Andrew McCarthy (hope I got his name right) piece in NRO a few days ago. It really isn't about the birth certificate, ultimately. It's about the president's accountability to the people and to the constitution.
The very onslaught of obfuscation from the those who say the birthers are fruitcakes is enough to demand an open mind.
Thanks! That helps. The goal post on this thread keep moving. Almost at the end.
Ha. I can picture that. He must have something damning on the Clintons. I thought for sure Hill was a shoo-in for the nomination. Whatever Barry had trumps BC.
He was quoting other posters.
Oh it’s worse than that. Hedge fund shorts like Soros, John Paulson, Flowers, D.E. Shaw etc where waiting to attack to take the banks and financial svcs companies down. Rham and Gorelnick had been at Fannie and Freddie post Clinton to por the gasoline everywhere; leave and light the match before going out the door. Summers was working at D.E. Shaw. They all knew the garbage the banks were stuffed with.
The match was lit in the late summer of 2008. The pressure in the markets to destroy these companies coul dbe magnified in Chicago at the CBOE, CBOT, CME, etc. with options, futures and credit default swaps. They wiped out the markets, McCain and made tens of billions.
Just because Brits didn’t use staples in ‘64 doesn’t mean that sometime in the past 40+ years it wasn’t stapled to something.
Stop that! You’re making me want snickerdoodles ... and it’s too late here to be eating cookies and drinking milk!
You want to give your WOW tokens or whatever they are called, to my boys?
Supposedly people in China play it all day to get as many “whatevers” they can and then they “sell” them black market.
It really has been.
Instead of the thread descending into a battle royale over minutiae and previously debunked claims, people have been able to peacefully contribute to the slow but steady process of intelligent analysis, which is predictably yielding results.
Man the phones tomorrow, use faxzero.com for 2 free faxes per day contacting in-state and DC offices. Do it every day and get friends, relatives, neighbors and others doing it.
Also go to townhall meetings and bring everyone you know especially seniors.
Also stop whining about the BC.
I have learned more about staples than I could have dreamed of. ;)
Joe, did you read what this excrement wrap tried to claim now?
I dunno about the name change. I didn’t have the option to take back my original last name because “it just wasn’t done” and then there would have to be explainations of my school papers and vaccinations and such. Mother kept his name as well. I suppose Ann could have changed hers and Hussein’s back but divorce still hadn’t become the norm as it is today. Then again, from what we know of Ann, she could have taken it upon herself to revert back to Obama without any legal decree. Who knows if Lolo legally adopted him and legally changed his name? That’s another locked door. As much as I want Hussein out, I can’t see showing him the door over illegally using Obama instead of Soetoro... I’d like to since it’s fraud but I’d let it slide since he didn’t have any say in the matter.
And credit to Fred Nerks...
Is the the 2nd American Revolution starting already?
screenshots are good. PDF’s might be even better. File, print, Adobe PDF, if you have the capability to do so.
Where do you see that on the watermark?
It was resolved. Go back and read the thread.
***Copout. The thread is 4500 posts. I don’t have time and won’t read the whole thread. I hope Danae and Polarik bring me up to speed.
Barry got what Hill had -- the support of George Soros.
Sometime in 2006 or '07, Soros switched horses in mid-stream.
Hill, who had money to burn, was caught in a case of the shorts. Meanwhile, Barry had the money machine at his back.
Beg to differ, but this situation is unprecedented in our history. We have to look to how our traditional law functions in similar instances to determine how to proceed if he's found to have committed actual fraud against us.
In any similar instance, I don't believe that any court would find that because a person was elected and sworn in, that that somehow mitigates the fact that they were never entitled to the office to begin with. There is no retroactive immunity from logic and reason in this regard, in my personal opinion.
Only a qualified President can be impeached, per the Constitution. If Obama is proven to be unqualified, and therefore ineligible to hold the office of President, then it just does not follow that he must be impeached. Logically, and legally, I don't believe he can be, as he was never the President to begin with (even though that fact is discovered after the election and swearing in).
Again, I believe that we have to look to how any other fraud of this type would be prosecuted, to divine the answer.
talking about ann dunham not Orly I know she is a member in good standing of the Calif Bar. thanks for standing up for her.
It's not the Brits I'm talking about, it's their colonial heirs. And it isn't that they didn't use staples in 1964, they were still using straight pins exclusively well into the late 1990's to my personal knowledge.
And it was stapled to something - that's MY point, not yours.
The significant point is that if it WAS stapled to something it would have been stapled somewhere that officials use staples.
Like the USA, for example.
..better twice than never...you have mail
There won't be any trees left. Just parched baren earth once he gets through cleaning up with deforestation.
more name-calling. talk to the hand.
My info came from the respected magazine, The Economist: