I've read that cap-and-tax would have a negligible effect on climate even if one believes in the climate models -- and it's not clear that a small amount of global warming would be a bad thing.
I remember reading a while back that increasing level of C2O is causing our planet to become greener. It makes sense, as plants require c2o the way humans require o2.
Don’t know about the Sahara but I’m pretty sure that climate change brought an end to the Ice Age.
posted on 08/02/2009 6:45:45 PM PDT
(Stop the DemocRATS' War On America!)
Wow, 'Global Warming' is actually helping desert areas.
Simply amazing!! /sarc
posted on 08/02/2009 6:46:25 PM PDT
("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
This desert-shrinking trend is supported by climate models, which predict a return to conditions that turned the Sahara into a lush savanna some 12,000 years ago.
During the last ICE age.
posted on 08/02/2009 6:48:15 PM PDT
(Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
...deserts returning to forests?...sounds good to me...I’m already thinking about an orange grove in my backyard....and I presently live in USDA plant hardiness zone 6 (0 to -5)minimum range.
Why can’t these GW scientists admit that the earth has always changed, and species have always morphed into new species and died off.
Why did I take science in elementary school?
posted on 08/02/2009 7:03:02 PM PDT
( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
Of course there are observable climate cycles in that part of the world. All of human history verifies that. The Nile valley, for example, was one of the most lush growing areas in the ancient world.
More recently, the fall of the Western Roman empire was precipitated by (among many other things) the Vandals in their sweep through what is now Spain and their capture of northern Africa, significant because that was Rome's granary. Yes, they grew wheat there ("corn" if you're reading Gibbon), enough to support an imperial city. That was not quite 1600 years ago.
Wheat in North Africa. Wineries in Britain. These things are all a part of the historical record, and any climate model that can't account for them is simply inadequate.
Much of what is now the northern Sahara desert was part of the Numadian Empire in Hannibal's day, a mere 2300 years ago or so. The Numadians were Allies of Carthage and historians describe their land as lush and tropical. They were also the source for Hannibal's famous elephants.
I guess the chariots stirred up a lot of global warming back then.
posted on 08/02/2009 7:07:38 PM PDT
(Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
The ice caps can’t melt and submerge Washington DC soon enough!
posted on 08/02/2009 7:09:42 PM PDT
(High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
“The transition may be occurring because hotter air has more capacity to hold moisture, which in turn creates more rain, said Martin Claussen of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, Germany, who was not involved in the new study.”
Let me get this straight. The desert is already hot. But, if it gets hotter it will become greener. OK, got it.
Is this like boiling something until it freezes?
posted on 08/02/2009 7:28:29 PM PDT
by headstamp 2
(Take a fish boating.)
Interesting, that in the “end times”:
Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
posted on 08/02/2009 7:29:04 PM PDT
(Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
The climate can change for the better? Who knew?
posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:03 PM PDT
This is interesting because climate activists always need to spin climate change as a catastrophe. No matter what the situation, warming can only be destructive because, otherwise, the need for IMMEDIATE ACTION TO SAVE THE WORLD NOW!!! goes away.
Unfortunately for them, this particular story cannot be spun negatively.. The Sahara even lacks that old standby of climate-change hysteria, cute animals threatened by a greening climate. So they are forced through gritted teeth to report it straight.
Science detached from politics. What a concept.
posted on 08/02/2009 8:30:09 PM PDT
("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
Oh no not rain in the desert. This could be the end. /sarcasm
posted on 08/03/2009 3:31:25 AM PDT
(Obama's lies make Bill Clinton's lie small)
To: reaganaut1; Bender2
I don't golf but this sounds like a money maker to me. Can you imagine the golf courses and surrounding communities that could be built and sold. The courses would be very challenging...with fantastic bunkers to overcome.
"What's up doc?"
posted on 08/03/2009 3:59:59 AM PDT
("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
Cap-and-tax is not about fixing "global warming"; it is about controlling your energy use.
"Global warming"(aka "climate change") is just a tin pan that the elitists bang on to scare the sheep into the pen. Ever notice that whatever the crisis is at the moment, the solution is always the same?
Tells me that it's all about the "solution", and not about the crisis.
posted on 08/03/2009 6:46:27 AM PDT
(It HAS happened here!)
To: reaganaut1; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
I'm sure the Obama White House will announce...
it if all due to The Øbamanation's poop he left in Cairo. It was transplanted in the Sahara to jump start the transformation.
Now, if we could only get him... to pee in the ocean to complete the cure for global warming!
Hey? I'm doing... my part!
posted on 08/03/2009 7:13:22 AM PDT
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
Acacias are more like thorn bushes than trees. They are adapted to dry conditions. They resist evaporation and hoard water, making them able to survive on little. They stand up well to constant drying winds. They are small and stunted.
I have seen them everywhere on desert islands like Bonaire, NA. They remind me of our own prickly ash, useful mainly to goats and burros, of which there are lots in areas full of acacias. They make good livestock fences. I do seem to recall some sort of seed pods, which perhaps are an animal/bird feed. They will hold the soil, however, such as it is in these sorts of places, where it is mostly sand that needs to be sifted to remove the donkey dung before being amended in order to be used for anything.
But, maybe this is just to get started on NatGeo remaking its credibility.
posted on 08/03/2009 7:53:09 AM PDT
(Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
Thanks for this post! I am sending the link along to some friends of mine.
posted on 08/03/2009 8:27:21 AM PDT
by Army Air Corps
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