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Heads Up - Multiple COLBS Warning [someone swapped out the Kenya BC AFTER it was posted]
Various ^ | August 3, 2009 | Various

Posted on 08/03/2009 2:12:53 PM PDT by Calpernia

There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.

The original one posted in breaking news:

One of the modified ones:

The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.

This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP

The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.


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To: Calpernia
Message posted on Orly's site Friday, July 31st, 2009 at 10:59 a.m.:

Very important. i need verification that E. F. Lavender was British colonial registrar in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961.

A few minutes before that, at 10:44 a.m., she wrote this:

1. I need experts who can authenticate documents from Kenya.

2. I need to find people who were born in Kenya in 1961 and have their birth certificate. I need to see it, I need to see how it looks like.

3. I need to know who was the British registrar in Mombasa in 1961.

If you have info, call me XXX-XXX-XXXX. No crank calls please, and be short, please. I really don’t have any time for stories

"Pip" commented on the request for info on E.F. Lavender at 12:16 a.m. Saturday, August 1, 2009:

Do you have any other info on this guy.

Is his name Eric or Edward? Have found something relating to an Eric Lavender (Registrar) on a Aussie site.

Was he american. Did he move from Mombassa and go to Australia do you think? Any other info???

Will keep looking…….

At 12:49 a.m. Pip follows up:

Have found an Eric Lavender. Picture of him and some other family members in Uganda (Kampala)

251 posted on 08/03/2009 3:54:09 PM PDT by kristinn (Latest FR Convention info: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2303189/posts)
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To: Polarik

Interesting idea.....I see a faint image of the Queen myself.


252 posted on 08/03/2009 3:54:28 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: STARWISE; kellynla; Marine_Uncle; Jim Robinson; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; ..

Smells like someone had a plan....


253 posted on 08/03/2009 3:54:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: rolling_stone
there is a question about the 7S 6d at the top which indicates 7 shillings 6 pence (1/2 shilling) but Kenya used shillings and cents 100 so it should be 7 s 50c...we need to see an original as of now it looks bad.

Checked it out. Even the East African Currency Board issued cents. If these printings were purchased from an English printer a pad or larger quantity might have cost 7s 6d. I've seen old books marked 7s 6d.

Jpeg of book. Just a possible explanation.

254 posted on 08/03/2009 3:55:16 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: penelopesire

I understand .. but I started on that thread
at around 3:45 .. and I only saw the E.F.
Lavender not the K.F.

Maybe it was already switched that early.


255 posted on 08/03/2009 3:55:40 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: MHGinTN

It is an old typewriter with a cloth ribbon that probably had build up on the 7 but not on 6 or d. Also with non-electric typewriters some typists are weak on some letters/numbers while hit stronger on others.

My Mom had one of the old typewriters.


256 posted on 08/03/2009 3:55:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Something is seriously wrong with this. The one I downloaded from Scribbed and from Orly’s site has EF and the 44 registration number.

I just checked her site and that is what she has up....

WTH?


257 posted on 08/03/2009 3:55:49 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: penelopesire

That’s 3:45 a.m. ... not too long after the
thread was posted.


258 posted on 08/03/2009 3:56:10 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Adammon

yea.. i think the lower resolution and the font type of the E..makes it look like a k


259 posted on 08/03/2009 3:56:30 PM PDT by outlawjake
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To: MHGinTN
Someone deep-sixed a video interview with a woman claiming to be Obama's paternal grandmother (NOT the step-grandmother)and his aunt, done while Obama was in congress. The interviewer had a British accent, perhaps South African. The interview was translated into English.

That woman claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Kenya.

That video disappeared from YouTube about two months before the election along with the YouTube channel.

Hoax? Maybe. Kinda funny it was never exposed.

260 posted on 08/03/2009 3:56:48 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: penelopesire; Jim Robinson; pissant; All

Defend Our Freedoms is ONTO it:

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There are now multiple COLBs out there now with changed information

The COLB for Barack Obama that was filed with this case: http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265

http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/08/03/there-are-now-multiple-colbs-out-there-now-with-changed-information.aspx


261 posted on 08/03/2009 3:57:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Electric Graffiti

B/S. I saved a copy.


262 posted on 08/03/2009 3:58:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: STARWISE
"Was it changed ON the scribd site, which now says “Fake” boldly on the page for it ?"

Yes it was. The original scribd document page did NOT have any title at all (let alone the word Fake in it).

263 posted on 08/03/2009 3:58:23 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: MHGinTN

Had not heard about the audio tape....thanks.


264 posted on 08/03/2009 3:58:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Thanks for that info....and why on the ‘alternative’ photo does the K look like a lowercase k? The number 47,6?44....the 6 or 0 looks raised and smudged


265 posted on 08/03/2009 3:59:02 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Calpernia

Excellent catch!

By the way, who on Earth photographs documents that way anymore? What’s wrong with a scan? Add a “three dimensional” view if necessary, but there should be a standard scan also.

Let’s just hope that whatever document Ms. Taitz has is being safeguarded.

And of course, NONE of this would have been necessary had Obama been “transparent.” It’s sad that people have to try and squint and read, and then do research, when it’s the responsibility of our representatives, our SERVANTS, to investigate. And the media also, of course.

This may all be a hoax. I don’t know. But the real hoax is on anyone who believes our government is working to serve us, or that the media is working to obtain the facts.


266 posted on 08/03/2009 3:59:39 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: pissant
Then you're an outright liar. Here, uploaded to Photobucket are two comparisons, the high-rez one on the left, the 'real' one on the right. I've zoomed both to make sizes relatively similar, but yet still show enough detail: I have not made ANY changes to the originals, other than zoom. Comparison 1: 47044 Photobucket Comparison 2: EF Lavender Photobucket
267 posted on 08/03/2009 4:00:15 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: khnyny

Orly better get a lawyer into court tonight if she wants to stop a off scheduled visit to Kenya.


268 posted on 08/03/2009 4:00:49 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Here’s the original source URL on the first thread posted:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265

It now redirects to:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

Yes this is true. It means the Orly Taitz site may not have been hacked but the www.scribd.com account where Orly posted the BC was hacked.

269 posted on 08/03/2009 4:01:00 PM PDT by Kells
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To: bustinchops

bustinchops: You’re a half century and a half world away. The internet isn’t as old as you think. Ask Ben Cartwright if he’s still making wagon wheels.


270 posted on 08/03/2009 4:01:46 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: Polarik

I Don’t think so. I can see an 8 pretty clearly and the rooster would stand out more clearly. There seems to be a lot more characters on the embossment. JMO


271 posted on 08/03/2009 4:02:12 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Calpernia

I was down all day, too, after reading this morning that it was a hoax. So, it appears it still has legs, so far. I hope so. I didn’t post on yesterday’s thread, but this brightens my day just a smidge.


272 posted on 08/03/2009 4:02:27 PM PDT by Ozarkie
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To: Kells

And Scribd is partnered with Obama 08???


273 posted on 08/03/2009 4:02:58 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Salamander
Yeah, but after all of that, now I look like *this*

The great thing is, after all the heat you took on the original thread, you apparently snagged the Original K.W. Lavender name......the Lord works in mysterious ways.....;)

274 posted on 08/03/2009 4:03:44 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Polarik
1966 Kenyan two shilling coin:


275 posted on 08/03/2009 4:04:02 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Jim Robinson; pissant
Well, I’ll be darned. The copy I saved after it was first posted definitely has the “K. F. Lavender” and the number is “47,644.” Someone’s working overtime."

The one that counts is the original which I assume is in Joe's possession.

On the other hand, Pissant's suggestion that it would be wise to advise Mr. Farrah that this has happened ins a good one.

276 posted on 08/03/2009 4:05:19 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Kells

Yep. I got the same thing. Deliberate redirect.


277 posted on 08/03/2009 4:05:26 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is the site I got the image from:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/


278 posted on 08/03/2009 4:05:39 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Calpernia

Do you happen to have the case# handy? I’ve got a pacer account and would like to download the original document.

I’ve spent too much time looking at the fake one someone put out.


279 posted on 08/03/2009 4:05:48 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: kristinn

Wait a minute, what if she set up that goose chase herself to throw off speculation??

Just a thought.


280 posted on 08/03/2009 4:06:08 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Calpernia

This cert has a format and language very similar to the language of docs from Australia, (possibly a common british format) particularly New South Wales. Anyone have anyway to view docs from Aust during this time?
Chrisitan name is a big hint.


281 posted on 08/03/2009 4:06:23 PM PDT by imagephreak
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To: Paine in the Neck

I saved the image to my computer at 9:58:39 a.m. CDT on 8/02/09. It clearly says E. F. Lavender and 47044.


282 posted on 08/03/2009 4:06:47 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: carcraft

nice attempt at misdirection, but that boat doesn’t float.


283 posted on 08/03/2009 4:06:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: MrDem

What about vans from “Flowers By Irene?” :D


284 posted on 08/03/2009 4:07:09 PM PDT by musicbymuzak
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To: Calpernia

What I have been asking myself for the last 48 hours is: There is no way Dr. Keyes and Dr. Orly are going to ruin their reputations with something false. Therefore, I trust what they are doing.


285 posted on 08/03/2009 4:07:31 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Adammon
You’re seeing what you want to see, not what’s actually there.

With all due respect sir, the E is darker and plainly obvious.....

286 posted on 08/03/2009 4:08:39 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Jim Robinson

I also have one saved and it is clearly K. F. Lavender (or Lavonder).


287 posted on 08/03/2009 4:08:41 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: STARWISE

I remember logging on that morning and realizing you guys had been up all night. This is all very strange and until we hear something from WND or Dr. Orly, I am not sure what to make of it other than someone is trying to hide something or confuse everyone yet again.


288 posted on 08/03/2009 4:08:43 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: imagephreak
Chrisitan name is a big hint

Not really. Common term (not used so much in this country now due to PC BS) in English speaking nations where the practice of giving a first and middle name in addition to the father's or tribal name was adopted.

289 posted on 08/03/2009 4:09:02 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: Jedidah

Mine was saved at 403 am Pacific time and has the EF on it... It happened VERY soon after the news broke. 2 hours maybe.


290 posted on 08/03/2009 4:09:23 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Calpernia

Looks like the “original” may be a fake, too.

See
http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg.

Someone posted this elsewhere:

I wanted to see if I could find any images of similar documents from Kenya around the same time period that could be compared to the certificate on the web. I spent several hours with Google image search on that before I decided to broaden my search outside of Kenya-specific documents.

It was some time later that I finally spotted a thumbnail on one of the results pages that looked very much like the Kenyan certificate. I pulled up the full size image and found that it was virtually EXACTLY the same type of document.

It was a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate.

The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document.

Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents.

The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template.


291 posted on 08/03/2009 4:09:52 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Adammon; All
In addition to the comparison, I've also done a proof of concept to see how quickly artifacting makes numbers change: On the left is the original EF Lavender and 47044 doc, as posted at Orly and here earlier. On the right is a simple JPEG-low compressed version of the same document. As you can see, the 0 easily becomes a 6, especially if we WANT to see a 6. Photobucket
292 posted on 08/03/2009 4:10:02 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: Adammon

Your mistake was to zoom the ‘real’ one to the point of illegibility. Try again, ace. Use windows picture and fax viewer. Hit the + zoom icon five or six times. It is as clear as the nose on your face.


293 posted on 08/03/2009 4:10:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kells

Someone should post a warning over at Scribd that viewers are being had.


294 posted on 08/03/2009 4:11:01 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: paulycy

Gee what an stunning coincidence. The seal and a coin both have a similar coat of arms pattern. And I thought they just picked random patterns. /sarcasm


295 posted on 08/03/2009 4:11:23 PM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: 9YearLurker
"Am I misremembering, or was the document at this web page earlier without ‘fake’ in its title or the title in the URL at all?"

Correct. Take a look at the original link posted on the other thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts

You can clearly see that the link orlytaitzesq.com has a URL of http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265
Which means the original was without a document title: http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/03118509265

296 posted on 08/03/2009 4:11:41 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: outlawjake

Look at the ‘E’ in STATES right above that line in the top copy.

They are definitely different.

Artifacts or not. There is too much difference between the two.


297 posted on 08/03/2009 4:11:41 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Calpernia

Good grief. I come back after taking a kayak paddle and walking the dogs, and now this.

I wonder if there’s any connection with the google warnings some people have been getting who visit Orly’s site?


298 posted on 08/03/2009 4:12:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Aquabird

In this case the paper copy is the only item that matters. If the judge doesn’t dodge it, then it is open to scrutiny by official experts. I just hope those experts don’t already work for DoJ.


299 posted on 08/03/2009 4:12:29 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Brytani

In the inrerview with Savage, she said she was in Tel Aviv and soon departing to Russia for hre parents’ anniversary.


300 posted on 08/03/2009 4:12:29 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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