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Report: New York Mother Driving During Deadly Wrong-Way Crash Drunk, High
Foxnews ^ | 8/4/2009 | Staff

Posted on 08/04/2009 10:45:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

The Long Island mom behind the wheel in a fiery wrong-way crash that killed her and seven others along a New York state highway was reportedly drunk and had high levels of marijuana in her system, authorities said Tuesday.

The findings were part of a toxicology report that was conducted on 36-year-old Diane Schuler in the wake of the deadly July 26 crash along the Taconic State Parkway in Briarcliff Manor, The Journal News of Westchester reported on its Web site.

The findings were shared with relatives of the crash victims, which included Schuler's 2-year-old daughter and three nieces.

Schuler was coming home to West Babylon from an upstate camping trip when she drove her Ford Windstar minivan against traffic for 1.7 miles along the northbound lane of the Taconic.

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To: Red in Blue PA
It gets even more bizarre . . .

Other reports released in the last day or so indicate that several motorists had previously called 911 to report a minivan (of the same make and color as the one involved in this accident) driving erratically all the way down Route NY-17 and I-87 earlier that day. Reports included a woman driving the minivan was weaving through traffic, passing vehicles on the shoulder, etc.

Based on the description of the route, it looks like this whole scene apparently unfolded over a distance of 60-80 miles on these highways.

51 posted on 08/04/2009 11:25:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Carley

She took her Brother’s kids camping. Her husband was in a seperate car and left after she did. Apparently the story kept changing that the husband was going fishing and allowed her drive home on a three hour trip with 5 kids.


52 posted on 08/04/2009 11:26:11 AM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Yes I agree, she told her brother she was going to kill herself and he called the police.


53 posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:08 AM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: dfwgator
You do realize that she was also drunk on alcohol.

That doesn't matter to the prohibitionists.

54 posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:55 AM PDT by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success.)
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To: matginzac

Actually for me, my denatured friend, I’ve been clean and sober for going on 25 years.

It’s a self imposed abstinence, as I’ve seen to many people’s lives destroyed with alcohol.

Well, that and the way people smell when they drink is nauseating.


55 posted on 08/04/2009 11:28:36 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: the invisib1e hand

I must have misunderstood you somehow. So I’ll ask, why or how did this become more tragic?


56 posted on 08/04/2009 11:28:36 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: EDINVA
Found some pictures on Google of the three men in the SUV:

Dan Longo

Guy Bastardi

Michael Bastardi

57 posted on 08/04/2009 11:30:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: NoKoolAidforMe; Carley; EDINVA; BunnySlippers; All
See Post #51.

This story is going to get more bizarre as time goes on.

There are some reports that this incident has been labeled a homicide by the county prosecutor's office, which would be highly unusual since the alleged perpetrator is dead and there would be no criminal prosecution anyway.

I am wondering if there are one or more other adults in the picture who are being investigated for a possible role in this.

58 posted on 08/04/2009 11:31:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Lord_Baltar
The tests for THC aren’t measured that way.

"Delta-9-THC peaks in the bloodstream very rapidly after ingestion, and then is fairly quickly absorbed into the fatty tissue of the body. Dr. Novak indicated that Delta-9-THC can fall below detectable levels as soon as two hours after the use of marihuana. "

http://www.courts.state.nh.us/superior/superorders/cronin.htm.

59 posted on 08/04/2009 11:32:52 AM PDT by justkate
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To: Alberta's Child

Check this one out: “Mom Drove Erratically For 60 Miles:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/08/03/2009-08-03_schuler_drove_erratically.html


60 posted on 08/04/2009 11:34:17 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Lord_Baltar

Bravo and good for you! I very much admire people who meet a challenge and succeed! /no sar All the best...


61 posted on 08/04/2009 11:34:35 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Alberta's Child

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/08/03/2009-08-03_schuler_drove_erratically.html


63 posted on 08/04/2009 11:34:45 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Alberta's Child
Do you think she had alochol in the car and drank while she was driving? Maybe she stopped at a bar and left the kids in the car. Four hours passed when the accident happened. It does not take that long from the Campground to the Taconic. Did she drink and smoke before she left?
64 posted on 08/04/2009 11:35:29 AM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Not only did her actions result in the death of the children but also the three men in the other auto.

That may be why there are homocide charges.


65 posted on 08/04/2009 11:36:07 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: justkate

That would hold true for non-regular users, however, a regular or semi regular user would show trace full term.

A heavy user will show high trace levels.

Police/Law Enforcement tests for intoxication test for trace.

Now, the Medical Examiner, working on the Room Temperature user, the tests get a bit more detailed.


66 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:39 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Alberta's Child
I'm a regular viewer of A&E's intervention. It is a real eye opener to see women who are addicted to Booze and/or pills and how they have been functioning like that for years. They drink from morning till they pass out at night. I truly believe it is an illness.

That said, there must have been "signs" this woman abused alcohol and someone KNEW she was driving DRUNK and let her take the kids anyway.

Or she wasn't quite high yet, and someone provided her with the booze and/or pills she took while driving.

sw

67 posted on 08/04/2009 11:39:39 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Senator Pardek

Agreed


68 posted on 08/04/2009 11:41:34 AM PDT by Neets
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To: angcat
My guess is that it's about a 2-hour drive from Sullivan County to the point on the Taconic Parkway where the incident occurred.

If the elapsed time between departure and the collision was four hours, then those two "missing" hours are likely to be of great interest to the investigators.

69 posted on 08/04/2009 11:44:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Marty62
Hey Marijane is harmless.

"Marijane" is fat soluable. It can be detected in a person's body for approximately 30 days or more after the last ingestion. As a result, there is often no correlation whatsoever between the amount of marijuana in a person's body and the level of impairment. In contrast, there is a direct correlation between the amount of alcohol in a person's body and the level of intoxication.

70 posted on 08/04/2009 11:44:38 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Marty62
Hey Marijane is harmless.

"Marijane" is fat soluable. It can be detected in a person's body for approximately 30 days or more after the last ingestion. As a result, there is often no correlation whatsoever between the amount of marijuana in a person's body and the level of impairment. In contrast, there is a direct correlation between the amount of alcohol in a person's body and the level of intoxication.

71 posted on 08/04/2009 11:44:39 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: angcat

How horrible for all those whose lives were lost and whose lives were forever changed by this tragedy.

It appears there is still more to come about this story.


72 posted on 08/04/2009 11:45:33 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: the invisib1e hand

Reserve and charity in short supply, apparently.

Anger and obscenity plentiful, unfortunately.


73 posted on 08/04/2009 11:46:14 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Carley
Not only did her actions result in the death of the children but also the three men in the other auto. That may be why there are homocide charges.

There can be no criminal charges under those circumstances, since the alleged "perpetrator" is dead and can't be tried for a crime.

I'm guessing that the police are looking closely at other adults on the camping trip who may know a lot more about this than they've let on.

74 posted on 08/04/2009 11:46:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: spectre

We watch that all the time. All the relatives know when there is an addict in the family.

I wouldn’t let an addict drive my kids to the mailbox even if I thought they were sober.


75 posted on 08/04/2009 11:46:31 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama
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To: Lord_Baltar

I believe Gas Chromatography will show the level of psycho-active Delta-9-THC in blood samples. Delta-9 will fall beneath detectable levels within a few hours of marijuana use.

So we know she was using within, say, 3 hrs. of the crash. The actual level of Delta-9 THC in her blood will tell investigators how much withing that time frame.


76 posted on 08/04/2009 11:54:27 AM PDT by justkate
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To: milwguy

She was a .19. That’s pretty plastered.


77 posted on 08/04/2009 11:54:56 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: beaversmom

Heartbreaking.


78 posted on 08/04/2009 11:56:52 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Alberta's Child; angcat

Found this:

http://www.brooklyncaraccidents.com/news-content.cfm/State/NY/Article/101646/Sentate-Passes-Legislation-To-Allow.html

Sentate Passes Legislation To Allow Drunk Drivers Who Kill Be Charged With Homicide
The New York State Senate passed legislation (S.5517), sponsored by Senator Charles J. Fuschillo, Jr. (R, Merrick), that would create the new charge of aggravated vehicular homicide for drunk drivers who kill others.


79 posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:27 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: sharkhawk
She was a .19. That’s pretty plastered.

Yep. That's potentially "driving-with-one-eye-closed" drunk (So that you don't see double).

80 posted on 08/04/2009 12:04:24 PM PDT by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success.)
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To: meyer
I know her 9 year old Niece took the cell phone and spoke to her father. Too bad he should have told her to take the keys and throw them in the Hudson or across the Thruway. So sad.
81 posted on 08/04/2009 12:12:47 PM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: LucyJo

If she was in a drunken rage....She should have just pulled over on the TZ bridge and jumped...


82 posted on 08/04/2009 12:20:12 PM PDT by geege
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To: LucyJo

Right. But in this case the drunk driver is dead, so there’s no legal mechanism for a criminal prosecution. She can’t defend herself, so she can’t be charged with a crime posthumously.


83 posted on 08/04/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: geege

Nobody would have cared if she jumped. She had to make sure that her death was spectacular.


84 posted on 08/04/2009 12:22:22 PM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: justkate

justkate, please don’t get me wrong, quite frankly, as far as I’m concerned, if this imbecile had been simply whacked out on Nyquil and Benedryl, my opinion of her would be the same as it is now, regardless of the intoxicant.

That being said, I do think there needs to be a reliable test of use versus intoxication / impairment, much the same as there currently exists for alcohol.


85 posted on 08/04/2009 12:25:13 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Neets

You know that area - simply impossible.


86 posted on 08/04/2009 12:31:56 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek

My daughter totaled her car on that very road,( a few miles north of this incident, ) about a month ago. Her first comment when she heard the woman was going the wrong way would be in agreement with you and I.


87 posted on 08/04/2009 12:45:15 PM PDT by Neets
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To: milwguy
I am sure it was the booze and not the potent weed she was smoking that made her disoriented. At 1:30 in the afternoon how drunk you think she was? What was the BAC reported to be?

Look for more of this if California is stupid enough to legalize pot.

"Schuler's blood-alcohol level was a eye-popping 0.19 -- nearly 2½ times the legal limit of 0.08, according to the report."

88 posted on 08/04/2009 12:59:53 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: Alberta's Child

True. But, it’s interesting that homicide charges have been filed despite her death.

Can a person be charged for knowingly allowing someone to drive in that condition when it results in those circumstances, I wonder? Even so, it would be tricky to prove, I guess.

Maybe it has something to do with civil suits that might be filed. I have no idea.


89 posted on 08/04/2009 1:27:40 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: angcat

As useless as it is, I keep wishing those kids had gotten out of the car when she stopped and refused to get back inside until their dad showed up. I wonder why they didn’t. One of the children talked with her dad after the driver called her brother. Why call him instead of her husband?

It surely sounds like there had been something that happened before she left the campground.


90 posted on 08/04/2009 1:37:08 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Lord_Baltar

Yes Chicago needs to give those ganstas shovel ready jobs. We know it worked in the 20’s.


91 posted on 08/04/2009 2:14:41 PM PDT by Marty62
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To: LucyJo
I should be more clear about this . . . no formal charges have been filed against anyone at all, but the county prosecutor has apparently indicated that this is a homicide investigation at least for now.

He certainly can't be charging the dead driver with anything, but there may be legal reasons to list this as a homicide investigation.

92 posted on 08/04/2009 2:52:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Ok, thanks. That does make it clear. (Not your fault that I was so dense. lol.)


93 posted on 08/04/2009 3:16:40 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

A bottle of Absolut vodka was recovered from Schuler’s car, police said.

Investigators said Schuler drank the equivalent of 10 drinks of vodka, although State police was not sure what time she began drinking.

State police also said Schuler smoked marijuana 15 minutes to an hour before the crash — meaning she was drunk and using drugs while with the kids.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08042009/news/regionalnews/wrong_way_driver_was_drunk_and_high_182966.htm


94 posted on 08/04/2009 3:40:50 PM PDT by angcat (GOOD LORD PLEASE HELP THE USA!)
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To: angcat

It’s inconceivable that a sane mother could endanger the lives of her children and her brother’s children in that way, not to mention the lives of others. It’s inconceivable that her husband would allow her to leave with the children if she was drinking, smoking dope, or upset enough to trigger that type of behavior.

I know drunks endanger lives every day, but, something about this story seems to be missing. If my own sister or s-i-l had a history of this type of behavior, there is no way I would let my children get into a vehicle with her. If she were a family member, I would certainly do all in my power to see that she didn’t harm her own children.

It just boggles the mind.


95 posted on 08/04/2009 4:35:49 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

One of those instances in life where I wish people had a chance for a do-over.


96 posted on 08/04/2009 10:52:44 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I know, and my heart just breaks for everyone involved. There are always “if onlies” after tragedies.


97 posted on 08/04/2009 10:59:54 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Senator Pardek

My guess is she was really upset that her husband was going on a fishing trip. She probably thought he was cheating.


98 posted on 08/04/2009 11:00:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: LucyJo
Absolutely true - I figure we'll find out more of this story and her history/behaivor and apparent “high tolerance” for alcohol because most women would've passed out way before her level which equaled 10 drinks of vodka....and adding marijuana into the mix - This woman and anyone who KNEW she was impaired or her history to drink and smoke POT while driving....it's criminal.

I don't know how her family - her brother and sisterinlaw can cope with this devastation

99 posted on 08/05/2009 5:03:57 AM PDT by SunnyUsa (I'm not one of those "who are we to judge?" people)
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To: SunnyUsa

I’m visiting NH and this story is big up here. There is definitely something fishy about it. Who drinks at 9 in the morning, and if it was a habit her husband and brother would surely have known it and not let her drive. Why wouldn’t you notice if you were going the wrong way on a highway? Wouldn’t all the people swerving and honking at you give you a clue? The kids must have been going crazy, it’s too bad one of them couldn’t have gotten control of the wheel. If she wanted to commit suicide, why would she also kill her kids and her brother’s daughters? It is a true tragedy and I feel incredibly sorry for the families of all those killed so senselessly.


100 posted on 08/05/2009 12:33:49 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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