Posted on 08/04/2009 4:46:48 PM PDT by Libloather
RUSH: Now, somebody tell me how in the world anyone could take that out of context. That is a full 43 seconds, no edits, we didn't take sentences out of order and assemble them in a way we wanted. A single payer health care plan, universal health care plan, that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately, because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House. Now they've done that, now they're going for single payer health care. I don't know why they did this. We think of these people as brilliant in the Alinsky sense. All they're doing is calling attention his lies. All they're doing is calling attention to his deceit. All they're doing is causing people to go back and get these full fledged clips and play them all over the place, radio, television. Linda Douglass looks like a sap. Linda Douglass looks like what she is, a propagandist former employee of state-controlled media.
On page 16 of the House bill, it's right there, and you've heard people quote from it. I'm going to summarize it, page 16 : private insurance will become illegal. Insurance companies cannot write new policies, people will lose their existing policy if they change jobs, if they change coverage, or if they change prices. Once any aspect of your private health insurance changes after this bill goes into effect, you can't renew it. You have to go public option. On page 29 of the House bill, it is admitted that our health care will be rationed. On page 42, the health choices commissioner will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. Page 58, every person will be issued a national ID health card, and it will probably have that stupid logo that reminds me of World War II, frankly, when you look at it, you'll say the same thing. The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer to pay. Yes, my friends, the federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, meaning from your account to them. They will be able to debit your account for health expenses. That's on page 59, go get the bill. I'm summarizing here for you.
On page 72, all private health care plans must conform to government rules to participate in a health care exchange. Any individual who doesn't have acceptable health care defined by the government will be taxed two-and-a-half percent of their income each year. Officers and employees of government health care bureaucracy will have access to all American financial and personal records, page 195. Page 203, the tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax. I'm quoting from the actual bill. I've got numerous examples but I'm way over time here. But, Ms. Douglas, you've been made a sap on this, and you've only caused even more attention to be focused on what your boss actually intends and what is in the House bill. It's there. This campaign of fraud and deceit is exactly why the American people are up in arms, and it's exactly why you and your party are looking at them with deep contempt. This wasn't part of the plan. The American people weren't supposed to figure all this out. They are just supposed to bow down and say, "Thank you for caring about us."
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PG 195 officers & employees of HealthCare Administration (Government) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records.
Yup, buy a safe, drill it into your basement floor, remove all funds from checking and savings account and destroy the banking system in the process.
The brown shirts will come looking for people with no bank accounts (who are not illegals).
PG64 L 21-25, pg65 L 1-5 which refers to processing payment transactions by financial institutions
What does that mean in terms of scope and power of the ‘public option’?
This is what happens when evil is allowed to grow unchecked. The clueless better wake up. Zero’s DeathCare is legalized Euthanasia. A Holocaust made legal by the US Congress.
So that we and the world never forget:
http://maoz.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=maoz_holocaust_video
You can be very sure it is there. I read the whole thing just like I obtained a read a copy of Hillarycare. You have to forfeit your bank information to the feds. Big brother can debit you and if they change any rules, which is why they go to Congress each year, to tweak and tweak the rules, you may very well be debited for a FAT tax cause you eat to much!!!
I really love Rush. He is an outstanding spokesman for our cause. But, as regards, The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer to pay. Yes, my friends, the federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, meaning from your account to them. They will be able to debit your account for health expenses. That's on page 59, go get the bill. I'm summarizing here for you.
I think he's stepped in it big time. I sincerely doubt Rush read page 59 before making that statement.
Here is the entire page 59 of the bill (sorry for the formatting, they don't make it easy, emphasis mine)
59 ‘‘(H) harmonize all common data elements across administrative and clinical transaction standards. ‘‘(3) TIME FOR ADOPTION.—Not later than 2 years after the date of implementation of the X12 Version 5010 transaction standards implemented under this part, the Secretary shall adopt standards under this section. ‘‘(4) REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC STAND- ARDS.—The standards under this section shall be developed, adopted and enforced so as to— ‘‘(A) clarify, refine, complete, and expand, as needed, the standards required under section 1173; ‘‘(B) require paper versions of standard- ized transactions to comply with the same standards as to data content such that a fully compliant, equivalent electronic transaction can be populated from the data from a paper version; ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation with the related health care payment and remittance ad- vice;The item Rush is talking about is item C, just above.
This section of the bill is titled, SEC. 1173A. STANDARDIZE ELECTRONIC ADMINISTRATIVE TRANSACTIONS. You'll find the section heading on page 57. Pages 57, 58 (the one Rush is referring to) and 59-65 layout the guidelines for physicians filing electronic, as opposed to paper, healthcare claims.
Item C above, the one scores of people are claiming gives the Feds the right to tromp through your bank account, actually addresses electronic payment of claims to the physician, along with the remittance advice (FWIW, the payors group payments to the same physician and send one check which may be for several thousand dollars and pay for many patients. The remittance advice is a break down of which procedures for which patients the check is for).
I urge everybody to get a copy of the bill and read it for yourself (not an easy task, I can guarantee that). If you can't read all of it, at least read the salient parts people are using to try and back up outrageous claims like the one above.
You can get a copy of the bill here. It is in PDF format and is about a 1.7MB download.
For further reference, see this FR thread.
Can someone explain, in layman’s terms, the provision that makes it illegal to change your health insurance after this is implemented?
Need to rewrite: "Oysters are smarter than Democrat voters and Republicans who didn't vote"
Good point.
Time to cash out!
When it comes to the gubbermint we are the greatest scam artists in the world. We must now join our 'rat brethren in considering this a virtue.
You’re probably right.
It’s like a new IRA - only not as nice...
Have you read page 195 or are you just parroting something you got from someone else?
Here is all of page 195 (sorry for the formatting, they don't make it easy)
195 Health Choices Act of 2009, shall disclose to of- ficers and employees of the Health Choices Ad- ministration or such State-based health insur- ance exchange, as the case may be, return in- formation of any taxpayer whose income is rel- evant in determining any affordability credit de- scribed in subtitle C of title II of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009. Such return information shall be limited to— ‘‘(i) taxpayer identity information with respect to such taxpayer, ‘‘(ii) the filing status of such tax- payer, ‘‘(iii) the modified adjusted gross in- come of such taxpayer (as defined in sec- tion 59B(e)(5)), ‘‘(iv) the number of dependents of the taxpayer, ‘‘(v) such other information as is pre- scribed by the Secretary by regulation as might indicate whether the taxpayer is eli- gible for such affordability credits (and the amount thereof), and ‘‘(vi) the taxable year with respect to which the preceding information relates or,Please highlight the section where, "officers & employees of HealthCare Administration (Government) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records."
We have GOT to stop spreading misinformation like this. It makes us look like fools. We need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. This is killing our credibility.
do people realize that the govt will simply TAKE a portion of your money whenever?
everyone better realize that the "rates" will be different for different people.....if you are considered "rich" because you have a few bucks in your retirement account, you may pay three times what some schmuck pays that has no money saved.....
we are getting the shaft again....
the govt will be able to track everything you do....
I guess NOW would be the time to stop using credit cards or debit cards or checks.....eliminate a trail that the feds can follow up on......cash your paycheck immediately and claim you're a gambling addict or a drunk, or similar...how can they prove differently?....at least you'll have a few bucks to give to our kids.....
the govt will be able to track everything you do....
I guess NOW would be the time to stop using credit cards or debit cards or checks.....eliminate a trail that the feds can follow up on......cash your paycheck immediately and claim you're a gambling addict or a drunk, or similar...how can they prove differently?....at least you'll have a few bucks to give to our kids.....
I the language from the flecksman twitter page.
Officers language
“...shall disclose to of- ficers and employees of the Health Choices Ad- ministration or such State-based health insur- ance exchange, as the case may be, return in- formation of any taxpayer whose income is rel- evant in determining any affordability credit de- scribed in subtitle C of title II of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009.
IRS information:
“‘‘(i) taxpayer identity information with respect to such taxpayer, ‘‘(ii) the filing status of such tax- payer, ‘‘(iii) the modified adjusted gross in- come of such taxpayer (as defined in sec- tion 59B(e)(5)), ‘‘(iv) the number of dependents of the taxpayer.
Relevant clause on financial information:
“v) such other information as is pre- scribed by the Secretary by regulation as might indicate whether the taxpayer is eli- gible for such affordability credits (and the amount thereof)”
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