and terrorizing elected representatives. Mobs like this one:
Hat tip: Dana Loesch at http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/
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Posted on 08/08/2009 6:38:12 AM PDT by kellynla
The Army National Guard is now recruiting individuals to fill job positions described as an internment/resettlement specialist according to job postings on Monster.Com and other employment based Internet sites such as one listed here. In other words, they are recruiting individuals to man facilities that could be used to house political dissidents, so-called terrorists and other individuals that the government doesn’t like. The term “resettlement” indicates that individuals holding this job position could also be responsible for moving people to other locations against their will. It is a documented fact that the U.S. government has numerous facilities at their disposal that could easily be used to house large numbers of people. Combine that, with this new job posting by the Army National Guard, and it seems as if the U.S. government is continuing to prepare for an eventual popular uprising.
Let’s look at some of the evidence we have of the U.S. government’s intentions to establish the infrastructure that could be used to house large numbers of political dissidents, so-called terrorists and other individuals the U.S. government wants locked up.
HR 645 the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act is a proposed bill in the U.S. House of Representatives that would authorize FEMA to build no less than six National Emergency Centers throughout the U.S. on closed or open military facilities. These facilities are to be designed to house large numbers of people. Why would emergency centers need to be built on closed or open military facilities unless there was a need to keep people from coming in and out of them?
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Do you really think that most of the National Guard would be likely to follow orders to do this? I may be slightly optimistic, but I believe much of the National Guard is there because they hold freedoms of US citizens at the very heart of their enlistments.
If you read the proposed bill, you will see it covers exactly what taxtruth says.
In light of the recent activities against citizens protesting his precious health care plan, my skepticism is waning, infortunately.
“Our troops have nothing to do with the political orders that come down from above.”
Indeed. But they have everything to do with executing said orders. Your comment begs to question of what “our troops” will do when directed to execute an unconstitutional order “from above”. It is a rather pregnant question that cannot (and must not) be ignored.
In your opinion, how would this be aswered?
Hat tip: Dana Loesch at http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/
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All of those pesky seniors who were protesting Obama’s socialist health care legislation can now be relocated to these camps. That way they can keep them off the streets and out of his face. Once there, Obama can give them mandatory “end of life counseling.”
What’s tin foil hat about this?
What does it say?
Do you have link to the “proposed bill” so I can read it? I thought this thread was about a job opening/recruiting ad for the National Guard.
Was there a job ad like this under George W. Bush?
Here’s the job ad.
I guess it is all in how you define “Internment” and “Resettlement” Why have a whole job category for a few terrorist here and there?
For those who have not been in the military epically our Canadian friends this is the description for the 31E MOS been around for a long time and easy to verify with a 2 second Google search. For you civilians out there the military talks funny...
This is health care reform. Free!!! Come on folkes. Free education and free food and free health. (sarc off)
You know, I don’t believe every German person was evil and maniacal. Somehow though, they managed to do what no rational person would ever think they would do in an irrational time.
I never thought I’d see the President call a police officer stupid for arresting his friend on national TV during a press conference. I never thought I’d see members of an administration encourage people to bring a ‘gun to a knife fight’, or ‘get in their face’, or even use terms like ‘punch back’ when encouraging their base to work on a bill they wanted passed.
There are a lot of things that have occured in the past six months that even I couldn’t comprehend, even as bad as I imagined Obama to be. He has surpassed anything I ever imagined. So it’s not unreasonable when we see actual ads for our military for ‘interrment camps’ to become a little frightened.
I would HOPE our military would fight back against these orders, but forgive me for not being as confident as I was 7 months ago.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but I'm really getting tired of seeing people on this website accusing our military of recruiting people to throw them in reeducation camps as they risk their lives defending freedom. This is not a job directly under White House supervision. You are accusing our current military leadership of condoning and actively supporting the internment and reeducation of our citizenry.
As in the above quote, the job qualifications require the ability to communicate with the expected prisoners.
Yet they do not appear to require proficiency in other languages. So it must be that they expect the "individual prisoners" to be english speaking.
It isn't too hard to connect these dots, is it?
"Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish at least six national emergency centers on military installations to use existing infrastructure to provide: (1) temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster; and (2) centralized locations for the training of first responders and the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts.
"Lists minimum requirements for sites for such centers, including that they be capable of: (1) meeting for an extended period the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian, and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected; (2) being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures; (3) housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during non-disaster periods; and (4) hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs.
"Sets forth center location requirements, including requiring the Secretary to designate closed military installations as sites whenever possible and to designate portions of existing military installations as centers otherwise."
If its stalled, then why are they recruiting people?
You are accusing our current military leadership of condoning and actively supporting the internment and reeducation of our citizenry.
Please show me where I did that.
I am asking questions. Just like alot of other folks.
They have been recruiting people for these jobs on and off for several years, beginning in the Bush administration. The legislation you cited is to authorize (not fund) construction. It does not deal with National Guard recruiting in any way, authorization or appropriation, indeed, it does not mention it at all.
“........ I believe much of the National Guard is there because they hold freedoms of US citizens at the very heart of their enlistments.”
I would hope that what you say is true. However, the thread seems to be revolving around what the National Guard would actually DO in such a situation. As an arm of the government, that could include executing unconstitutional measures against the country’s own citizens. Would the NG actually follow such orders?
Historically, the west coast US citizens of Japanese extraction might speak to what the military has done in the past. The outlines of those internmnent camps (they were NOT POW camps), can still be seen from the air in eastern Colorado. It has not been that long ago since the rights of US citizens were violated by their government through the actions of the military. Unfortunately, I am not nearly as optimistic about the NG’s concern for individual rights (though some within the ranks might decide to have nothing to do with such orders, I fear that the majority would comply as they have in the past).
Maybe they’d come through shining, but history does not support such a blue sky assumption.
This is not a "story that has appeared before".
This is an actual ad from monster.com.
Its all tied together. Considering the current administration, I don’t trust them to adhere to the ‘magnanimous’ intent of the bill, do you?
Of course, blind faith that the government is the final arbiter of what is a threat to the Constitution was implicit. I would venture to say that it was inconceivable to these guys that they themselves might be the 'domestic threat' referred to in the Constitution.
What ever. I know a lot of people in the National Guard, and I can’t think of one person who would do this. Are you saying our National Guard is a covert round ‘em up and intern ‘em organization set up to violate the Constitution? And please do a little reading. There WERE JAPANESE SPIES and many sympathizers in this country during World War II. It is unfortunate that many innocent people were interned, but they were not all innocent. The first several thousand of those reparations checks we finally issued went to people who are residents of Japan. And I don’t remember the Japanese paying any of their torture-camp victims any reparations.
What we are seeing here is plans being made to hold people against their will, by the military, apparently without due process of law.
I am assuming the people you refer to here are American citizens who disagree with the current administration. If that is the case it has to be carried out with knowledge and consent of America's officers and senior enlisted.
First they have to get the subcommittee to schedule a hearing on the bill. Then the full committee to approve it. Then they have to get the bill passed in both Houses. Then they would have to get another bill passed to fund it. Like I said, the only suspicious part of this bill is its sponsor.
Absolutely not!
Do I think the civilians in charge of the military would attempt to use these facilities to silence their opposition?
Absolutely yes.
Remember the technique of how you boil a frog.
We don’t know “who”.
That’s why we’re asking questions.
Are you suggesting that the National Guard can run an ad asking for people without there being some kind of upper level knowledge and approval?
This is not the normal status quo and something seems to be up.
It usually is preceded by a demonizing of the target. Weaver made enemies by criticizing the local sheriff in letters to the editor and ticked off a neighbor by allowing his kids to play with Nazi armbands on their arms.
Koresh was flying a Star of David flag. I can still remember the ADL lawyers whining on CNN about Koresh saying “he is stockpiling weapons and is a danger to his neighbors”. To my knowledge they never mentioned the flag, the real bone of their contention.
It is real easy to get on a “haters” list. Heck even a post on FR might do it. At my age I don’t give a sh!t. I don’t hate anybody and my friends and relatives know it, that is good enough for me! On the other hand I don’t trust everyone, even if they do have Harvard degrees.
By the way Travis my brother in law says your latest book is great! I made the mistake of loaning it to him before I read it. I have some power over him, though so I am sure he will eventually return it.
regards, Howie
“There WERE JAPANESE SPIES and many sympathizers in this country during World War II. It is unfortunate that many innocent people were interned, but they were not all innocent.”
Forgive me, but you’re rationalizing despotism. Since you are new to FR, I will assume you’ve not had enough time to develop a rational concept of civil rights under our constitution. Please, go back and read those documents, along with the Federalist Papers. They are all about the rights that you, as a citizen of the US, are entitled to. Being tossed into internment camp because some of your own race are spies does not what the founders intended.
If you think about what you typed, I believe you’ll agree that you may have been a little fast on the keyboard. If you still believe it was justified, I might next ask if you are a US citizen yourself.
It is my understanding that this program is to deal with Katrina-like situations where a large number of people need to be evacuated and housed.
RIGHT! And it was the understanding of a whole lot of folks that they were just going to be taking SHOWERS in those big cement rooms in Dachau!
Which is why our military takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution not the President. These are not the guys who voted in this administration. You need to look elsewhere for black helicopters.
Or, you could just say “Early Merry Christmas” and buy another copy. :-P
I have been a member of FR since 2000, longer than you have. I understand the concepts of civil rights as outlined by our Constitution, which is not a suicide pact. I have read the Federalist papers and can quote from them, extensively, in particular the section about the dangers of faction, domestic faction and insurrection (No. 10). I also have read an extensive amount of history, particularly the threats of espionage and sedition we faced before and during World War II. And finally, I can recognize condescension when it rears it ugly head.
I guess some lower level folks could run an add. I don't think they can recruit, train, pay, house, and deploy these guys without somebody noticing.
Be sure to wear that tin-foil hat when you go to the internment camp. It will keep you safe.
Why was this piece removed from "Extended News" and placed in the “Bloggers & Personal” section?
As stated on the Canada Free Press website:
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This NEWS is entirely too important to be shoved off into the "bloggers" corner!
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I would in a sense call those all “hypotheticals”.
When you see an ad recruiting personell, we are no longer talking hypotheticals. Whatever it is, it’s a done deal.
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