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White House Move to Collect 'Fishy' Info May Be Illegal, Critics Say
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Posted on 08/08/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey

The White House strategy of turning supporters into snitches when they see "fishy" information about the health care debate may run afoul of the law, legal experts say. "The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it," Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday. "There's also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can't try to rewrite history by pretending it didn't receive anything," he said. "If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute."

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IMPEACH... Special Prosecuter at the very least. Our Constitution must stand.
1 posted on 08/08/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey
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Being informed that his tactics may be illegal, the President reacted characteristically to the charge...


2 posted on 08/08/2009 12:42:58 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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Like it rally matters to this white house or the msm. obumber can do what ever he wants and no one will ever do anythig of substance about it.
3 posted on 08/08/2009 12:43:34 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Please don't turn me into flag@whitehouse.gov)
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Oh, sh*t. That is too damn funny.

Gotta love a narcissist.


4 posted on 08/08/2009 12:44:28 PM PDT by dadgum (Security System. Dog. 12 gauge. 3" magnum turkey loads. Shovel.)
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5 posted on 08/08/2009 12:45:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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have you heard if anyone has begun to legally challenge this or if anyone is at least thinking about it? this administration has 1930’s nazi germany written all over it and it is only gonna get worse.


6 posted on 08/08/2009 12:45:50 PM PDT by bobby.223
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The White House wants so much information on us, yet won’t release anything on Obama himself.


7 posted on 08/08/2009 12:46:09 PM PDT by kik5150
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I think they always knew this would be illegal. But now the email address is out there.


8 posted on 08/08/2009 12:46:56 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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Collecting data on those who disagree with the Administration is a direct assault on our Constitutional rights and grounds for impeachment. Code Pink-ers screeched for 8 years, and nobody from the Bush W.H. asked for their information. Asking Americans to turn in their fellow Americans...Hitleresque.

HERE'S THE QUESTION: WILL THE REPUBLICANS FIND THE B@LLS TO FIGHT FOR INVESTIGATION/IMPEACHMENT? Only if LOTS of people get mad and pressure them...even then it's a long shot.

9 posted on 08/08/2009 12:47:22 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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Illegal? So what.. /s What now? or better yet, what’s new?


10 posted on 08/08/2009 12:47:29 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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BINGO!!!


11 posted on 08/08/2009 12:48:30 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (I love the Bill of Rights. Is that extremist?)
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"All we're asking people to do is, if they're confused about what health care reform is going to mean to them, we're happy to help clear that up for them. Nobody's keeping anybody's names. I do have your e-mail. ...Maybe that's because I assume future mistakes. But I'm not going to say that," Gibbs said, drawing laughter.

Well I emailed them that I heard that O said they were going to give everyone healthcare and not raise taxes and pay for it in savings from medicare. But the CBO said the program will cost over $1trillion and the saving at best is $300 million. It doesn't add up, so someone must have lied to me.

I have yet to receive a response...so yeah...we know he's lying with this answer. They need to press the White House to answer all those emails...that should tie them up for a while.

12 posted on 08/08/2009 12:48:49 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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13 posted on 08/08/2009 12:49:25 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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Boama will have to throw Biden or Emanul under the buss over this. Which will he choose an idiot or a thug?
14 posted on 08/08/2009 12:50:19 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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D’oh... how they going to get out of that one?


15 posted on 08/08/2009 12:51:58 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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White House Spy Program Violates .Gov Domain Guidelines And Privacy Act of 1974 – Updates And Who To Contact

http://www.thesubstratum.com/general-politics/white-house-spy-program-violates-gov-domain-guidelines-and-privacy-act-of-1974-updates-and-who-to-contact/

“Just a long talk with Lee Ellis, policy administrator of the GSA Federal Acquisition Service which assign .Gov domains and creates the guidelines for the use of .Gov domains.

Mr. Ellis was very cordial, mentioning he was up until 9:00 pm last night after being inundated with emails. I would like to extend many thanks to my readers who emailed me after contacting Mr. Ellis. Your words of support were encouraging. Don’t letup and keep sending those emails, but please be very cordial as Mr. Ellis is a very likable gentleman. Mr. Ellis will be the person who will re-write the guidelines if necessary.

Mr. Ellis informed me the legal office of the GSA Federal Acquisition Services (FAS) has been contacted. The White House site will not be taken down, which should come as no surprise due to its importance in providing vital information to the public. However, the use of the whitehouse.gov blog is in violation of the guidelines.

The White House may be asked to either remove the offending material of put up a disclaimer which states the site in question violates .gov second level domain guidelines by allowing for campaign content – in this case the campaign to pass health care legislation. Mr. Ellis is not a lawyer and I have not yet received a reply email from him, which I requested during our interview. However keep your eyes on the site dotgov.gov website, which is the GSA FAS official website for any announcements. Again, keep up the pressure.

To understand the structure involved here, the federal Chief Information Officer (CIO) Vivek Kundra has authority over all other CIOs. I could not find any contact information for Vivek Kundra, so if anyone can dig this up and place it in the comments, I will add it to the post.

I did a little digging and found the current White House CIO is Macon Philips. I don’t have a phone number, so if anyone out there does, again please provide it in the comment section. It took a lot of research, but I was finally able to find an email for Macon Philips – macon@who.eop.gov. Still looking for a phone number.

Macon Philips, the man behind whitehouse.gov and the website calling for the turning in of citizens is also known as the White House Director Of New Media.”


16 posted on 08/08/2009 12:52:33 PM PDT by Altera (See, "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" by Mark R. Levin)
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17 posted on 08/08/2009 12:53:31 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (King Jesus will rule from Jerusalem. Period.)
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Does he want to see my birth certificate?


18 posted on 08/08/2009 12:54:00 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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19 posted on 08/08/2009 12:54:36 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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Well since Mr. Gibbs said that they are just responding to people who want to know how obamacare will impact them...I just emailed them again asking them how it will impact me.

So I’m wondering how long until I get a response...


20 posted on 08/08/2009 12:54:50 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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