Skip to comments.White House Move to Collect 'Fishy' Info May Be Illegal, Critics Say
Posted on 08/08/2009 12:40:26 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey
The White House strategy of turning supporters into snitches when they see "fishy" information about the health care debate may run afoul of the law, legal experts say. "The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it," Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday. "There's also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can't try to rewrite history by pretending it didn't receive anything," he said. "If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute."
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Oh, sh*t. That is too damn funny.
Gotta love a narcissist.
have you heard if anyone has begun to legally challenge this or if anyone is at least thinking about it? this administration has 1930’s nazi germany written all over it and it is only gonna get worse.
The White House wants so much information on us, yet won’t release anything on Obama himself.
I think they always knew this would be illegal. But now the email address is out there.
HERE'S THE QUESTION: WILL THE REPUBLICANS FIND THE B@LLS TO FIGHT FOR INVESTIGATION/IMPEACHMENT? Only if LOTS of people get mad and pressure them...even then it's a long shot.
Illegal? So what.. /s What now? or better yet, what’s new?
Well I emailed them that I heard that O said they were going to give everyone healthcare and not raise taxes and pay for it in savings from medicare. But the CBO said the program will cost over $1trillion and the saving at best is $300 million. It doesn't add up, so someone must have lied to me.
I have yet to receive a response...so yeah...we know he's lying with this answer. They need to press the White House to answer all those emails...that should tie them up for a while.
D’oh... how they going to get out of that one?
White House Spy Program Violates .Gov Domain Guidelines And Privacy Act of 1974 Updates And Who To Contact
“Just a long talk with Lee Ellis, policy administrator of the GSA Federal Acquisition Service which assign .Gov domains and creates the guidelines for the use of .Gov domains.
Mr. Ellis was very cordial, mentioning he was up until 9:00 pm last night after being inundated with emails. I would like to extend many thanks to my readers who emailed me after contacting Mr. Ellis. Your words of support were encouraging. Dont letup and keep sending those emails, but please be very cordial as Mr. Ellis is a very likable gentleman. Mr. Ellis will be the person who will re-write the guidelines if necessary.
Mr. Ellis informed me the legal office of the GSA Federal Acquisition Services (FAS) has been contacted. The White House site will not be taken down, which should come as no surprise due to its importance in providing vital information to the public. However, the use of the whitehouse.gov blog is in violation of the guidelines.
The White House may be asked to either remove the offending material of put up a disclaimer which states the site in question violates .gov second level domain guidelines by allowing for campaign content in this case the campaign to pass health care legislation. Mr. Ellis is not a lawyer and I have not yet received a reply email from him, which I requested during our interview. However keep your eyes on the site dotgov.gov website, which is the GSA FAS official website for any announcements. Again, keep up the pressure.
To understand the structure involved here, the federal Chief Information Officer (CIO) Vivek Kundra has authority over all other CIOs. I could not find any contact information for Vivek Kundra, so if anyone can dig this up and place it in the comments, I will add it to the post.
I did a little digging and found the current White House CIO is Macon Philips. I dont have a phone number, so if anyone out there does, again please provide it in the comment section. It took a lot of research, but I was finally able to find an email for Macon Philips email@example.com. Still looking for a phone number.
Macon Philips, the man behind whitehouse.gov and the website calling for the turning in of citizens is also known as the White House Director Of New Media.”
Does he want to see my birth certificate?
Well since Mr. Gibbs said that they are just responding to people who want to know how obamacare will impact them...I just emailed them again asking them how it will impact me.
So I’m wondering how long until I get a response...
These emails have to be kept in the nat’l archives.
Let’s all send emails documenting the fall of our republic.
Oh' geez, that is so pre-Obama.
Obama transcends Law, after all, he is a attuned being straddling the planet like a god
We have a SRM sycophantic lapdogs of the Administration, complete Democrat control of Congress, Justice Dept. run by a racist, Homeland Security run by a imbecile, A drunk for a VP.
We should start a huge class action lawsuit and get good attorneys to represent us.
He’ll never get impeached no matter what he does. Can’t impeach a black man — that’s racist
‘have you heard if anyone has begun to legally challenge this or if anyone is at least thinking about it?’
I think a good first step would be for the White House to release the names collected so far (Freedom of Information Act, perhaps?). Then, if someone appears on that list who never corresponded with the White House, I would think that they’d have cause to file a lawsuit. JMO.
That's the best idea I've heard yet. Only problem is, the top class action attorneys in the country are democrat lobbiests. We need conservative lawyers.
Is THIS what will wake up a sleeping America? Incredibile!! The fact that this is even out there is enough to send me chills. WAKE UP AMERICA!! I have emailed my “keepers in office”here in Illinois (Dick Durbin et all) and quietly told them I have had enough and WILL work to bring them down!! ENOUGH!
That it is ILLEGAL will NOT deter “DEAD FISH” Emanuel nor Dictator OBOZO HUSSEIN in the least! In fact, it probably excits them even more, jussssst as doing Pleays in their Pink Tu Tus in ballet classes used to turn them on!:-)
The law is meaningless if nobody is willing to enforce it.
I wonder if one could do a FOIA request to see if they have any information on you?
What about the health care survey on Brad Ellsworth’s website? Are his staff submitting that info to flag?
And who are the other congressmen that have a similar survey on their websites?
Bill (the Gasbag) O’Reilly jumped on Judge Andrew Napolitano, claiming that Obama just wanted what was said reported to him, not who said it.
You know...from websites where all you have to do is insert an email address and the WH will end up on their mailing list. There are lots of them...fill the WH email box with spam from stores, kids sites, joke sites, (whatever your "evil protestor" mind wants to send, LOL). Easy enough to do...just insert the firstname.lastname@example.org email addy into the sites area requesting an email addy for future mailings.
Well then the Natl archives will be full of newsletters from every vile/funny/off beat site on the internet. I know lots of folks have been signing the WH up to receive them.
Well, I don’t see what the fuss is all about...the ACLU said it was no big deal.
I would sue....but I’m told I don’t have “standing.”
Yeah, I’m sure Eric Holder will get right on that.
Surely congress or the AG will jump right on this.
I sent them an email self-reporting that I'm "fishy" on Obamacare.
I wonder which of these laws they broke? Did they collect my data and break the law, or did they delete my data and break the law?
Time to sue.
on me? oh no!! I love obama, they don’t have to look for anything on me!!!.....
Sen Cornyn started the process with his letter to the kenyan. If u havent seen it, do so. Its very good.
"The Lives of Others" is the English version. It's about life under the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, a.k.a., Stasi.
There is ZERO difference between flag@ and the main action of the Stasi, getting citizens to inform on each other for not following the ruling party.