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Helen Thomas: Not Even Nixon Tried to Control the Media Like Obama
CNSNews.com ^ | July 01, 2009 | Penny Starr and Fred Lucas

Posted on 08/09/2009 10:06:41 AM PDT by carenot

Following a testy exchange during Wednesday’s briefing with White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas told CNSNews.com that not even Richard Nixon tried to control the press the way President Obama is trying to control the press.

“Nixon didn’t try to do that,” Thomas said. “They couldn’t control (the media). They didn’t try.

“What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said. “They’re supposed to stay out of our business. They are our public servants. We pay them.”

Thomas said she was especially concerned about the arrangement between the Obama Administration and a writer from the liberal Huffington Post Web site. The writer was invited by the White House to President Obama’s press conference last week on the understanding that he would ask Obama a question about Iran from among questions that had been sent to him by people in Iran.

“When you call the reporter the night before you know damn well what they are going to ask to control you,” Thomas said.

“I’m not saying there has never been managed news before, but this is carried to fare-thee-well--for the town halls, for the press conferences,” she said. “It’s blatant. They don’t give a damn if you know it or not. They ought to be hanging their heads in shame.”

During today’s briefing, Thomas interrupted a back-and-forth between Gibbs and Chip Reid, the White House correspondent for CBS News, when Reid was questioning Gibbs about who was going to decide what questions would be asked of President Obama in a townhall meeting that was scheduled to take place in Annandale, Va., today.

Gibbs then had an exchange involving Reid and Thomas that went as follows:

Gibbs: “… But, again, let's--How about we do this? I promise we will interrupt the AP's tradition of asking the first question. I will let you [Chip Reid] ask me a question tomorrow as to whether you thought the questions at the town hall meeting that the President conducted in Annandale—“

Chip Reid: “I'm perfectly happy to—”

Helen Thomas: “That's not his point. The point is the control--”

Reid: “Exactly.”

Thomas: “We have never had that in the White House. And we have had some, but not-- This White House.”

Gibbs: “Yes, I was going to say, I'll let you amend her question.”

Thomas: “I'm amazed. I'm amazed at you people who call for openness and transparency and—”

Gibbs: “Helen, you haven't even heard the questions.”

Reid: “It doesn't matter. It's the process.”

Thomas: “You have left open—”

Reid: “Even if there's a tough question, it's a question coming from somebody who was invited or was screened, or the question was screened.”

Thomas: “It's shocking. It's really shocking.”

Gibbs: “Chip, let's have this discussion at the conclusion of the town hall meeting. How about that?”

Reid: “Okay.”

Gibbs: “I think—“

Thomas: “No, no, no, we're having it now--”

Gibbs: “Well, I'd be happy to have it now.”

Thomas: “It's a pattern.”

Gibbs: “Which question did you object to at the town hall meeting, Helen?”

Thomas: “It's a pattern. It isn't the question—”

Gibbs: “What's a pattern?”

Thomas: “It's a pattern of controlling the press.”

Gibbs: “How so? Is there any evidence currently going on that I'm controlling the press--poorly, I might add.”

Thomas: “Your formal engagements are pre-packaged.”

Gibbs: “How so?”

Reid: “Well, and controlling the public—”

Thomas: “How so? By calling reporters the night before to tell them they're going to be called on. That is shocking.”

Gibbs: “We had this discussion ad nauseam and—”

Thomas: “Of course you would, because you don't have any answers.”

Gibbs: “Well, because I didn't know you were going to ask a question, Helen. Go ahead.”

Thomas: “Well, you should have.”

Reporter: Thank you for your support.

Gibbs: “That's good. Have you e-mailed your question today?”

Thomas: “I don't have to e-mail it. I can tell you right now what I want to ask.”

Gibbs: “I don't doubt that at all, Helen. I don't doubt that at all.”

Thomas, 89, has covered the White House during every presidency since John F. Kennedy’s.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhofascism; bhofasism; bhotyranny; disinformationczar; helenthomas; imom; msm; nixon; obama; obamacare; obamedia; obroma; rahm; whitehouse
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To: Kartographer

LOL. Good one!


101 posted on 08/09/2009 1:00:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Kartographer

LOL. Good one!


102 posted on 08/09/2009 1:00:51 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Cyman
that she asked for Bush( When will President Bush stop beating his wife Ms. Perrino?)??????????????.

Yes, that is the kind of questions I like. You notice Ms. Perrino never answered her? Maybe she was afraid to answer? I would be afraid. He was "The Decider", after all.

103 posted on 08/09/2009 1:07:06 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Peter Griffen Pictures, Images and Photos Robert_Gibbs Pictures, Images and Photos
104 posted on 08/09/2009 1:10:24 PM PDT by AmericanSphinx71 (Emanuel and Axelrod - The new Haldeman and Ehrlichman)
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To: carenot

Will Obama leave like Nixon?

105 posted on 08/09/2009 1:23:07 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: carenot

“What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said.

Well, yes they do, in fact. But that might be because till now every one of them has let the White House pull their strings.


106 posted on 08/09/2009 1:40:31 PM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Cyman
You are honestly saying that Helen Thomas asks the same quantity and quality of questions for Obama that she asked for Bush

Yes, as to the quality. No, to the quantity.
:)

107 posted on 08/09/2009 2:09:07 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: Cyman
If you believe THAT, you are WAY overdue for your Thorazine with a Prozac chaser.

Dang, yer right!
Thanks for the reminder.

108 posted on 08/09/2009 2:21:16 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: carenot

You know this was interesting the first time it was posted back about 36 days ago but it has worn off. She hasn’t confronted him again and she lets him get away with this health care crap and beating of American Citizens. Until she stands up and asked some really hard questions she is just the same old battle axe to me.


109 posted on 08/09/2009 2:31:06 PM PDT by calex59
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To: carenot
Thomas: “I'm amazed. I'm amazed at you people who call for openness and transparency and—”

Gibbs: “Helen, you haven't even heard the questions.”

< snip >

Thomas: “Your formal engagements are pre-packaged.”

Gibbs: “How so?”

< snip >

Thomas: “How so? By calling reporters the night before to tell them they're going to be called on. That is shocking.”

Gibbs: “We had this discussion ad nauseam and—”

Thomas: “Of course you would, because you don't have any answers.”

< snip >

"They ought to be hanging their heads in shame.”

Give 'em hell, Helen!

110 posted on 08/09/2009 2:35:41 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: calex59

I have searched but I couldn’t find it posted here. I would like to read it.


111 posted on 08/09/2009 2:37:29 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: carenot

I think they've kissed and made up already.
Obama said he would no longer call on Huffington Post reporters before her.

112 posted on 08/09/2009 2:38:25 PM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: carenot

Thank you for the post!

However, HELEN THOMAS ONLY ULTIMATELY CARES ABOUT HELEN THOMAS.

THAT’S really all to be learned here....and at age 89, what does she really have to lose by taking on Gibbles-N-Bitz?


113 posted on 08/09/2009 2:52:27 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (''If you look good and speak well, people will buy anything.'' - Criswell in ED WOOD.)
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To: GreyFriar

Did she just now find out that they plant all the questions they answer?


114 posted on 08/09/2009 3:06:28 PM PDT by zot
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To: carenot

It doesn’t matter if it was posted before or not, that wasn’t my point(it was posted BTW), my point was, she hasn’t said anything since then to keep her attitude going. She still takes his crap and lets him abuse taxpayers and citizens, calling for thugs to beat us at rallies etc. She says nothing about that or about the health care that will cause the premature death of many, many seniors.


115 posted on 08/09/2009 3:40:01 PM PDT by calex59
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To: AmericanSphinx71; Marysecretary; Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Good stuff all! At least we can laugh and these idiots.

Oh, in case you didn’t know, the FG spinoff, “The Cleveland Show” will have a character voiced by Arianna Huffington. I’m drawing the line at that one and won’t be watching.


116 posted on 08/09/2009 3:54:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You can't blame Bush anymore...)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
Thank you for the post!

Thank you for reading and responding. I had forgotten how much fun it is, to post an article and have a discussion about it.

Think of how she had to have fought to get ANY kind of important assignment. I have seen pictures of her when she was young and she was too homely to have slept her way to the top. :) She must have worked hard to have achieved what she has. And she must love it. Most people would have retired long ago.

117 posted on 08/09/2009 3:57:50 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: carenot; Anima Mundi; ebiskit; TenthAmendmentChampion; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; ...
She's part of the problem which elected these goons in the first place.
How did she help?
Oh, do you mean asking hard questions about what our government is doing?

That is what reporters are supposed to do.

All very well to say. But the Homogeneous - they like to call themselves "associated" - press is a propaganda monopoly, and has been since the Civil War era. Its central feature is the taboo it enforces against any challenge to the claim that it consists entirely of nothing but objective journalists. Which is why Dan Rather was so sure that he could stonewall when his "Texas Air National Guard Memo" hoax was exposed within minutes of its broadcast, and thoroughly disproved within days. Rather was wrong in his belief that in 2004 he could perpetrate that hoax as an "October Surprise" on GW Bush, but you have to admit that he was correct in his assumption that it was impossible to create significant journalistic criticism of Dan Rather or of CBS News for broadcasting that hoax and stonewalling the subsequent Internet criticism.

The opposite was the case, tho, when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth told the truth about John Kerry. Any newsman who had backed the SBVT for telling the inconveniet truth about John Kerry would have instantly been drummed out of the profession. As it is, the term "swift boating" is a way for Democrats and reporters, to slur on both the SBVT and whoever else tells the truth about a Democrat.

So while reporters may ask legitimately challenging questions of Republicans, they reserve the softball questions for the Democrats, and outright hoaxes (see "Palin, Sarah") targeted at Republicans. Had reporters done the slightest bit of investigative journalism and analysis from anything other than a left-wing perspective, the electorate would have known before November that Obama's best friends were racists and/or terrorists.


118 posted on 08/09/2009 4:07:37 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
I must confess when I read the article I clutched my chest Fred Sanford-style and nearly fell out of my chair. I could not believe my eyes.

...But after putting things in perspective (and reading RetroSexual's full post-#12) I now understand that while on one level Thomas is right in her offense at journalists being controlled by politicians, but as Retro correctly pointed out, it was she and others like her who let the animals out of the barn and now it's far too late to close the door.

119 posted on 08/09/2009 4:25:45 PM PDT by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They have nothing to worry about. She is old enough now to be expendable.


120 posted on 08/09/2009 4:28:08 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: carenot; PhilDragoo; devolve; y'all
“What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said.

- - - - - -

The answer to the question is "Yes. Isn't everybody?"

Unlike Kerry, Obama Covets Soros' Support (7-28-2004 Article)


121 posted on 08/09/2009 4:30:02 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: carenot; PhilDragoo; devolve; y'all
“Nixon didn’t try to do that,” Thomas said. “They couldn’t control (the media). They didn’t try.

- - - - - -

Nixon said: "I am NOT a crook!"

0bama sez:

I am NOT a power-grabbing, Stalinist/Marxist Jack-booted Thug!!!


122 posted on 08/09/2009 4:33:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: carenot

I would remind Helen that the media is ALLOWING itself to be controlled by Barack Alias Obama.


123 posted on 08/09/2009 4:42:54 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

‘Chicago Way’ ping.

Stuff happens to elderly folks. Y’know, natural causes. Slip and fall at home, no one around... no one suspects foul play when it’s a heart attack...

And always look for the largest display of flowers at the funeral...


124 posted on 08/09/2009 5:37:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: carenot

However, she loved the cupcakes and has been silent since.


125 posted on 08/09/2009 5:38:57 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: carenot

She is suddenly making us all fans.


126 posted on 08/09/2009 5:44:27 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Righto, not sure if maybe I was missing some other
reference !


127 posted on 08/09/2009 6:39:22 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Well said. I think Helen may have also exposed something else that she and her fellow travelers possibly haven’t even considered, that is, the dinomedia has been part and parcel of setting the agenda heretofore. Their often incoherent, warm and fuzzy but useful nanny state advocacy gave the pols cover for their steady movement to centralized government in DC. Enter the obamessiah, who wants nothing to do with the slow but steady pace of the feeder streets. He’s entered the freeway and moved into the fast lane to implement his marxist idealogy before the engine blows up. He’s left the dinomedia behind and I daresay he is even making some of the mush heads in the WH press corps a little nervous. They shouldn’t be. I doubt there’s a real American patriot in the bunch. And of all people, Princess Helen should retire if she can’t keep up. ;^)


128 posted on 08/09/2009 7:00:54 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: carenot
Do you remember what she said? Who called her out?

I'm not sure but I think it was Rumsfeld. She raised her hand to ask a question, but instead gave a long, drawn out rant about "American occupation and imperialism."

He said to her, "Thank you Helen, for bringing us the Hezbollah perspective."

129 posted on 08/09/2009 8:24:50 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: carenot

bump to the top


130 posted on 08/09/2009 8:27:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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To: seanmerc
this WAS going to a Helen Thomas Ping, too old....nevermind.

131 posted on 08/09/2009 8:32:52 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT! Thanks for your post, your work and your analysis. You continually light the way forward for a free republic.


132 posted on 08/09/2009 9:16:41 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Everyday the Lord humbles me just a little bit more. Today, he makes me praise Helen Thomas.

Being reminded of our subjectivity can be humbling but that is who we are, our subjectivity.

Praise the Lord!

133 posted on 08/09/2009 9:44:26 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: carenot

I did not mean the exact source it was not put on from CNS because of this thread that had the CNS article in it but like I said good stuff this thread had lots of comments lol

After that Helen Thomas went nuclear with a report at CNSNEWS.COM:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2283872/posts


134 posted on 08/09/2009 10:06:22 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: carenot

helen, you’re beautiful.


135 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:11 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: carenot

ATTENTION.You are leaving NorthEast Amerika Sector,You are entering the Midwest Amerika Sector No Freedom Zone, under Governor Rahm Emmanuel. You will extend arm for scanning and say what is your reason for entering Midwest Sector! No joking or complaining or you will be forcibly rebuked. Absolutely no bribes allowed. If everything is in order, you will pledge allegiance to King

136 posted on 08/09/2009 11:24:22 PM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: ETL

oy. she looks like Alan Greenspan in drag.


137 posted on 08/09/2009 11:28:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: carenot

I’ll be the worst guy here.. I like Helen Thomas


138 posted on 08/09/2009 11:32:10 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Kartographer

Beltway Bob.


139 posted on 08/09/2009 11:51:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: carenot

Better be careful Helen, or you’ll be in for some of that special Obama-Care End of Life Counciling.


140 posted on 08/10/2009 12:07:58 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


141 posted on 08/10/2009 3:01:40 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: carenot

bttt


142 posted on 08/10/2009 5:36:17 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: timestax

bttt


143 posted on 08/12/2009 4:15:38 PM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: timestax

bttt


144 posted on 08/13/2009 7:42:58 AM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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