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GM predicts 230 MPG for Volt
Pacific Business News ^ | 8/11/2009 | Thomas Hartley

Posted on 08/11/2009 6:43:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

General Motors Co. predicted Tuesday that its Chevrolet Volt rechargeable electric car will get 230 miles per gallon of gas in city driving.

If confirmed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which tests for mileage figures posted on new car stickers, the Volt would be the first car to exceed triple-digit gas mileage, a GM official said.

Toyota’s Prius, the most efficient car now sold in the U.S., gets 48 miles per gallon.

The Volt is powered by an electric motor and battery pack with a 40-mile range. After that, a small internal combustion engine kicks in to generate electricity for a range of up to of 300 miles. The battery pack can be recharged from a standard home outlet.

The downside is that the Volt is expected to cost nearly $40,000, nearly double the sticker price of some economy hybrids.

The Volt is scheduled to appear in showrooms in late 2010.


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To: SeekAndFind

Neil Cavuto said the Volt shows that the government could also do a good job on healthcare.


51 posted on 08/11/2009 7:08:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (Barack Obama, America's last black president)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/category/news-blog/

“Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it’ll be affordable too!”

NissanEV shoots back at the latest Volt hype on Twitter, using the same DOE estimate as GM. That hit from the PR crackpipe sure didn’t last long.

Why is GM asking $40,000 when Nissan will ask about $15,000 for the Leaf. And the Leaf gets 367 mpg. And it will be on sale in 2010.


52 posted on 08/11/2009 7:11:27 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: mylife

Unemployed, lost my job June 30th.

Now thanks to you working people that are paying taxes, you are picking up 65% of my COBRA, (Porkulus) and my unemployment.

Also it sucks sitting around the house, playing w/my Clinton and scratching my Barry.


53 posted on 08/11/2009 7:12:06 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: expatpat
On that basis, an electric golf cart gets 10 trillion mpg.

My minivan get 20,000 mpkw, assuming I turn on the garage lights and use my electric garage door opener. My Subaru gets 10 times that since I park it outside.

54 posted on 08/11/2009 7:13:42 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
This whole gee whiz mpg electric car rage is for idiots who have no clue where the electricy comes from when they plug in these toys.

Imagine CA when there are 20 million electric cars all plugged in. Talk about brown outs...!

55 posted on 08/11/2009 7:14:24 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: SeekAndFind
The battery pack can be recharged from a standard home outlet.

Which we all know is FREE and has no emissions because the power is generated by converting bunny farts to rainbows!

56 posted on 08/11/2009 7:15:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Your electric bill for August 2010...$40,000.


57 posted on 08/11/2009 7:16:07 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Hows My Posting? Please Contact flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: RangerM
The EPA has already contradicted GM.

Not much of a contradiction.

58 posted on 08/11/2009 7:16:30 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (Because, deep in my heart, I do believe, that we shall overcome some day.)
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To: Springman
Sorry to hear that Springman.

You need to stop playing with your Clinton and Barry ☺

Good luck FRiend. What's your line of work?

59 posted on 08/11/2009 7:17:42 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SeekAndFind

$40K for a golf cart?? I see used ones in the paper for a few hundred bucks.


60 posted on 08/11/2009 7:18:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Burkean
I was on board until they got to the price tag.

The miles would hardly get me from my home to town and back home again. Usability is a key factor for any vehicle - and this one is no exception.

61 posted on 08/11/2009 7:18:18 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: mojo114

From what I heard on Detroit talk radio, the GM spokes person said, ovenight, off peak hours, 40 cents/day.

Yeah Right, I want to smoke what he’s on!!!


62 posted on 08/11/2009 7:18:27 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t versions of the Yugo. We want sleek and sexy muscle cars.


63 posted on 08/11/2009 7:19:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Freee-dame
They are counting on people being so stupid that they believe electricity has no cost.

We have quite a few here who just don't get it. And they won't until they buy one of these dopey cars and look at their electric bill next month.

64 posted on 08/11/2009 7:20:16 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: SeekAndFind

It must be union made.


65 posted on 08/11/2009 7:21:28 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: RagingBull

The 230 mpg number is based on driving 50 miles. Of course, the first 40 are with the battery (infinite mpg), the last 10 are gas-powered (46 mpg).

12 gallon tank * 46 mpg + 40 battery miles = 49 mpg.


66 posted on 08/11/2009 7:22:56 PM PDT by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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To: TheBattman
The Chevrolet Volt, on other hand, runs on electricity that comes from two sources -- a battery as well as a gasoline engine.

When gasoline is providing the power, the Volt might get as much as 50 mpg. But that mpg figure would not take into account that the car has already gone 40 miles with no gas at all.

So let's say the car is driven 50 miles in a day. For the first 40 miles, no gas is used and during the last 10 miles, 0.2 gallons are used. That's the equivalent of 250 miles per gallon. But, if the driver continues on to 80 miles, total fuel economy would drop to about 100 mpg. And if the driver goes 300 miles, the fuel economy would be just 62.5 mpg.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/11/autos/volt_mpg/?postversion=2009081108

67 posted on 08/11/2009 7:22:59 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: mylife

Use to work at a spring shop. Then they stopped doing business w/Delphi and Dana 4 years ago.

Than worked on windshields, but the company lost their GM contracts, and sent what work they had to Mexico.

Well, I’ll try not to go blind, deaf if I keep listening to Air Amerika, LOL!!


68 posted on 08/11/2009 7:27:34 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: Springman

40 cents/day off peak. We don’t have off peak hours in CT.
I am not buying that figure anyway.
Sorry to here about your job. What type of job are you looking for?


69 posted on 08/11/2009 7:30:23 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: stockpirate
Neil Cavuto said the Volt shows that the government could also do a good job on healthcare

Did he think it just sprang fullblown from Obama's forehead? Didn't he know the obvious, that the Volt has been in design for many years, and was scheduled for some sort of rollout this next year, long before the gubmint stole the rights to it? Honestly, if he really said that, he must be getting a little demented.

70 posted on 08/11/2009 7:31:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok, first of all the headlines are misleading. Predict means they don’t know yet and it is premature to “predict” the mileage this car will get. Secondly, you must count the cost of the energy used to recharge this wonderful green machine(sarcasm there)every night. Thirdly, I believe their 40 grand price tag will actually be more than that before they are through. We won’t even go into the 40 mile range this thing has.


71 posted on 08/11/2009 7:32:29 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Springman

Wow. Thats a rough sector right now.

Maybe you can find something with a custom shop?

People pay for the focused best.


72 posted on 08/11/2009 7:33:34 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: RagingBull
The 230 mpg number is based on driving 50 miles. Of course, the first 40 are with the battery (infinite mpg), the last 10 are gas-powered (46 mpg).

Leave it to the current administration to cook up a new way to compute mileage by varying the trip length. By that measure my old pickup truck gets over 30 mpg. It's a 1/2 mile downhill to my buddy's place so I can just hold the clutch in and coast down there with the engine off. When its time to go home I start it up and drive home.

1/2 mile at infinite mpg, 1/2 mile at 16 mpg. Overall, 32 mpg.

73 posted on 08/11/2009 7:33:39 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: SeekAndFind

GM guy on Greta, Fox cable, now.
Discussing the Volt.


74 posted on 08/11/2009 7:34:09 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: SeekAndFind

No, thanks. I’d prefer a new RWD Chevelle with a 350 V-8.


75 posted on 08/11/2009 7:35:18 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: SeekAndFind

76 posted on 08/11/2009 7:36:17 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: ozzymandus
$40K for a golf cart?? I see used ones in the paper for a few hundred bucks.

That's about what a dealer will offer people for a 3 yr. old Volt trade in. I've seen dealers say no thanks at any price to a one yr. old Honda electric car.

77 posted on 08/11/2009 7:37:40 PM PDT by T. Jefferson (Batton down the hatches, full speed in reverse)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wow! Kinda makes that 100 MGP carburetor that they have been keeping buried look like a silly idea, huh?

At 200 + MPG, I'll take three for starters. Pretty soon, they'll be paying me to drive.

Hell, Mondays I could get my oldest grandson to school in #1, then come home and plug it into the the charger. Then later in the afternoon, I could use #1 to pick him up after school, and get his younger brother from daycare (may have to go to the ((cursed)) gas engine 'bout then.).

While #1 is charging midday, wife could take #2 to her hair dresser appointment, then hit the mall for an hour or so. I could scoot off in #3 while wife is getting gorgeous, and see if my local gun shop guy received the ammo he said would be here first thing monday. Would prolly come home with another .22 rifle, since gunny didn't have any ammo and I have lotsa .22lr (you can always use another .22), but what the hay, buy when you can.

Tuesday ...

Gimme a friggin break on the 200 + claims, OK?

78 posted on 08/11/2009 7:40:00 PM PDT by Don Carlos (This tagline has been reported to the White House.)
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To: mojo114

Right now anything that pays over $9.50 an hour, not like anyone can get that in Metro Detroit.

There isn’t s**t here right now.

Guess, I’ll be be depending on the tax payers, to help me and Mrs. Springman out.

I’ve all ready finished off my honey-do list, well maybe the in-laws need some painting to do?


79 posted on 08/11/2009 7:40:05 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

lol. without reading other posts just this first one... does he really think, or anyone else for that matter , take this serious after seeing that stoopid match smart car cruising around town. PLEEEAAAASEEEE.


80 posted on 08/11/2009 7:42:35 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: Springman

35% Of Cobra Is a chunk of cash


81 posted on 08/11/2009 7:42:47 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SeekAndFind
General Motors Co. predicted Tuesday that its Chevrolet Volt rechargeable electric car will get 230 miles per gallon of gas in city driving.

Maybe when its going downhill off a cliff into the grand canyon imho!!

Personally I DONT BELIEVE IT FOR A SECOND!! This statement coming from Government Motors (or 0Bama Motors if you prefer) has as much truth as 0Bama saying that its a moral & right thing to do for the country to have nationalized Healthcare and there is nothing to worry about!!

I would really be surprised if a) it wasnt a 800 pound dressed up golf cart that can actually be safe to drive on the interstate and b) it can really get 60mpg in real world driving and not on some selected routes that perfectly matches what they want us to believe.

82 posted on 08/11/2009 7:44:03 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

230 MPG may be possible, since it is powered by flying pigs.


83 posted on 08/11/2009 7:44:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I think Cavuto is being sarcastic


84 posted on 08/11/2009 7:44:44 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: SeekAndFind

230 miles on a gallon of gas plus how many kilowatthours of electricity?...


85 posted on 08/11/2009 7:45:01 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1938 all over again - the democrats are the new NAZIs and conservatives are the new Jews.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
"I’m going to ask Obama to buy me one."

Well, Janis Joplin asked the Lord to buy her a Mercedes Benz...

86 posted on 08/11/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: mylife
can it pull a mesquite stump in Tx?

No, but it can probably pull a mosquito's rump in FL!

87 posted on 08/11/2009 7:47:34 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1938 all over again - the democrats are the new NAZIs and conservatives are the new Jews.)
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To: Springman

Make an application to Orange County Choppers, Montgomery, NY.
You would have a great job and we could watch you on TV!


88 posted on 08/11/2009 7:49:38 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: mylife
And a whopping 40 mi range? On a “good day”?

But it has an eight horse Brigs & Stratton with a pull cord for the bad days...

89 posted on 08/11/2009 7:49:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: meyer

Well! Thats good enough aint it?


90 posted on 08/11/2009 7:50:40 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Hate to say it, but it is less now, than I was paying, when I was working.

What I paid in two weeks, is now less than I pay in a month.

Had to pay through the nose, because I wanted to cover Mrs. Springman.

Well, time to go to bed, talk later, goodnight.


91 posted on 08/11/2009 7:51:10 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a deceptive practice for a company to say this.


92 posted on 08/11/2009 7:51:35 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just read the article posted to Drudge. Not once did they mention how much MONEY it costs in electricity to get that 230 miles.


93 posted on 08/11/2009 7:51:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Heyup (The Brigs and Stratton is where the work gets done)


94 posted on 08/11/2009 7:52:15 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Springman

Best Wishes FRiend


95 posted on 08/11/2009 7:53:52 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Windflier

Don’t worry about the money... We’ll just print more!


96 posted on 08/11/2009 8:00:48 PM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: RangerM

No, EPA only repeated what GM said - measurement is if you use a DRAFT EPA test.


97 posted on 08/11/2009 8:13:48 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: rawhide
And if the driver goes 300 miles, the fuel economy would be just 62.5 mpg.

That's a little better than the real-world mileage of the Volkswagen Jetta TDI wagon (Deisel). Not bad for a car with half the interior room and 1/4 of the driveability.

98 posted on 08/11/2009 8:14:04 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1938 all over again - the democrats are the new NAZIs and conservatives are the new Jews.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The sad thing is that if they reduced the battery storage to 4 miles, they would probably get an honest 70 mpg, shave about $15,000 off the price and have the performance of a sportscar.

A series hybrid is a great way to build a high performance car with great economy. Until electric storage improves trying add significant battery-only range will only reduce economy, increase price and make it sluggish.

But then again, it is a government designed car now.


99 posted on 08/11/2009 8:26:13 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: CaliGangsta

‘Cause electricity just comes out of the wall socket without any type of generation or loss of efficiency in it’s conversion to electical power.....


100 posted on 08/11/2009 8:28:50 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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