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Oops! Townhaller Schools MSNBC Host on Obama's Single Payer Quote (Katy Abram)
NewsBusters.org ^ | 08/12/2009 | Geoffrey Dickens

Posted on 08/13/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Average American citizen Katy Abram's impassioned plea against socialized health care, at Senator Arlen Specter's town hall meeting on Tuesday, got her noticed by the "Hardball" producers as her clip was featured on Tuesday's show and she even received an invitation to appear tonight -- complete with the requisite scolding from the program's liberal host. Subbing for Chris Matthews, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell incorrectly challenged Abram's fear that Barack Obama wanted to move to a single-payer plan.

After Abram recalled that, "I heard him say on a quote, on television, that...we will move to a single-payer" plan, O'Donnell rebuked "He never said that." When Abram again insisted that she "Heard it on TV," O'Donnell adamantly asserted "The President of the United States has never said that." It turns out Abram knew her facts better than the cable news host, as Obama as recently as last year declared: "If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system," And, as Red State noted, in 2003 Obama told a crowd of AFL-CIO members: "I happen to be a proponent of single-payer, universal health care coverage."

The following exchange was aired on the August 12, edition of "Hardball":


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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abram; arlenspecter; hardball; hardbull; lawrenceodonnell; msnbc; obama; odonnell; specter
Heh heh....
1 posted on 08/13/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480

Lawrence O’Donnell - (Insert the quote by the great and wise Bryant Gumble here)


2 posted on 08/13/2009 7:56:46 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Pyro7480

The correction will never be shown on MSNBC though.

Ah hell, who cares. Anyone watching that channel can’t be swayed to the idiocy of their positions anyway.

Hey, I saw someone on Facebook voting in a poll on if Fox News was bias for Republicans and I’m thinking, where is the CNN or MSNBC poll?


3 posted on 08/13/2009 7:58:03 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Pyro7480

Under a single-payer system, would people be prevented somehow from spending their own money for services they want?

If not, then it’s not really single-payer. It’s just single-payer (Obamacare) for most people, while the rich and powerful access the best healthcare with their own money.

Socialized healthcare for thee but not for me.


4 posted on 08/13/2009 7:58:15 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Pyro7480
When Abram again insisted that she "Heard it on TV," O'Donnell adamantly asserted "The President of the United States has never said that." (emphasis mine)

Larry O'Donnell is playing stupid word games.

It may be true that Barack Obama has not said such a thing in front of a TV camera since he has been President, but he has said he favors a single-payer plan plenty of times while he was campaigning for the job.

5 posted on 08/13/2009 8:02:08 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Because, deep in my heart, I do believe, that we shall overcome some day.)
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To: Pyro7480

He is a no lip Frank Burns looking little prick.


6 posted on 08/13/2009 8:02:22 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Pyro7480

7 posted on 08/13/2009 8:04:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Pyro7480

Katy did not come off too well during that interview, IMHO. She should have bet two weeks of her salary against two weeks of O’Donnell’s that 0bama said he favored single payer.


8 posted on 08/13/2009 8:05:10 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (What kind of organization answers the phone if you call a suicide hotline in Gaza City?)
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To: Iron Munro

Gary Varvel rocks!


9 posted on 08/13/2009 8:07:23 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: swain_forkbeard
would people be prevented somehow from spending their own money

Absolutely! There is also that a privileged caste of national politicians, bureaucrats, and Goldman Sachs personnel who will get essentially unlimited treatment at taxpayer expense. Rich people will always be able to go offshore where the best doctors and equipment will be, anyway. But even that won't be worth so much to either group when there are no more effective antibiotics. Public Health will not - cannot pay the cost of the R&D necessary to develop new antibiotics to replace/augment the current antibiotics that are continually losing effectiveness due to ongoing mutations in the pathogens. Then it is back to 1910 or so, medically speaking, you get sick, you die.

10 posted on 08/13/2009 8:09:13 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Pyro7480

“The President never said that”...

Well, technically, we DON’T have PRESIDENT Obama saying this - he wasn’t president when he said it...

/leftistthink


11 posted on 08/13/2009 8:10:54 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Pyro7480

It was that damn teleprompter’s fault. It put words in the President’s mouth.


12 posted on 08/13/2009 8:12:07 AM PDT by catpuppy (we had to kill the patients in order to save health care ...)
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To: Pyro7480

Do we have a Sarah Palin effect here? All of the sudden we have young conservative women coming out and getting involved in politics. This woman should run for office. Start local and work yourself up.


13 posted on 08/13/2009 8:14:13 AM PDT by McGruff (We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Pyro7480

Are you all aware that this poor woman is being harassed and threatened in the most vile manner? Nasty emails to her and her father’s office, obscene and hateful calls to her dad’s office and her cell phone. Heard he in tears describe this on Glenn Beck this morning.

they’re really, really asking for it.


14 posted on 08/13/2009 8:17:52 AM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: arthurus

Yes, a humongous “pay for play” scheme....


15 posted on 08/13/2009 8:27:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: nascarnation
Gary Varvel rocks!

I'm looking forward to meeting him in the FEMA camp.

16 posted on 08/13/2009 8:30:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Noumenon

If the POTUS had a single ounce of testicular fortitude, he would call out those who are harrassing this woman simply for speaking her mind AS AN AMERICAN. He should boldly stand up and say that it has to stop. She has the freedom (at this point) to speak freely without fear of retribution. He needs to be a man and stand up to protect this woman and her family. But, alas, he is not a man. Not in the true sense of the word.


17 posted on 08/13/2009 8:32:54 AM PDT by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: Iron Munro

It’s amazing to me the Gannett generipaper Indianapolis Star which has a liberal slant on its “news” coverage uses him as editorial cartoonist.
He lives in the same town I do, and attends church down the road from where I live.


18 posted on 08/13/2009 8:33:57 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Noumenon

This woman spoke up and all of a sudden they’re wanting her for interviews so that they can skewer her on tv. Another arm of Obama’s thugs, the state run media. This is disgusting. She should have told them to up it when they asked if she’d come on.


19 posted on 08/13/2009 8:34:03 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: ReneeLynn

What is it with liberals and smearing attractive conservative women?


20 posted on 08/13/2009 8:35:46 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, I wouldn’t call Joe the Plumber an attractive woman, but he got the same treatment. ;) Disagree with Barry and it’s time for the media arm of his thugs to beat you up on tv. Disgusting jackboots.


21 posted on 08/13/2009 8:41:22 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it*s the new black.)
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To: arthurus

“Rich people will always be able to go offshore where the best doctors and equipment will be, anyway.”

That was my point. I’m just not sure they’ll even have to go offshore. But if so, no matter.

So then it’s not really single payer. So the middle class is left to pay for and be served by a government-controlled healthcare system (let’s call it Obamacare), and wait in line, figuratively and literally, with the poor and illegals, to get second-rate, rationed care, while the ruling class jets off to the best doctors and hospitals.

No thanks.


22 posted on 08/13/2009 8:49:01 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

This thing has to be stopped before any bill at all passes. Once something is passed, no matter how attenuated, we get the whole totalitarian thing. If a piece of it is passed with the same number on it as one of the proposals in the works, even if only the title is left of it, the rest will be added in bit by bit by the commissars and the courts and little legislative amendments to other bills. The rationing that is inherent in this system can and will, of course, be used politically and will be implemented to favor or to disfavor groups and individuals who are not regarded as helpful to the system as well as individuals not deemed sufficiently productive.


23 posted on 08/13/2009 9:02:13 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Pyro7480

Do wish we could get the exact date/place of his quotes to any future interviewee so they can lay iton the likes of O’Donnell during the interview, rather than conservatives following up among themselves after the fact.

(is it me or does O’Donnell look a little panicked in that photo from the clip).


24 posted on 08/13/2009 9:09:48 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Pyro7480
ENVY, my dear, ENVY--pure and simple.

In fact, can you name one attractive female in the Dem Party? Unattractive, even downright ugly (does Helen Thomas come to mind) liberal females gravitate to the cradle-to-grave party because they have neither the wit nor self-sufficiency to do otherwise.

Regards . . . Penny

25 posted on 08/13/2009 9:22:59 AM PDT by Penny
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To: Noumenon
Are you all aware that this poor woman is being harassed and threatened in the most vile manner? Nasty emails to her and her father’s office, obscene and hateful calls to her dad’s office and her cell phone. Heard he in tears describe this on Glenn Beck this morning.

This is just so, so bad, awful -- first Joe the Plumber has to be destroyed because he dared allow 0bama approach him as he was outside in front of his house playing with his children, 0bama engaged him, not the other way around. Now we have Katy the Mom, exercising her First Amendment right, addressing her elected representative to make her views on policy issue known at a public forum, she is hit with *the works* and treated extremely unprofessionally, to put it mildly, but this political hack-turned media head.

Anyone who tries to pull the "He wasn't president when he said it" line has ZERO credibility (no pun intended), since they are constantly calling Bill Clinton president, he is not. They don't care for proper and accurate, they don't get to claim that because this woman referred to the sitting president correctly when she put it, "I heard the president say ...." that he didn't say it -- he most certainly did, irrelevant that he had not been elected to the office she uses respectfully in reference now.

As for O'Donnell, yet one more Moynihan castoff, I'll never forget the story of how when he was schtupping Kathryn Harrold, she thought it great fun to see him sitting behind Moynihan in a Senate hearing, call his beeper to watch him on CSPAN walk off to a phone, he had to tell her not to do it any more.

Says a great deal about how seriously actors take the business of our government.

26 posted on 08/13/2009 9:35:24 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: MozarkDawg

Sorry, the usual word spelled properly but not what I wished to use boo boo — but should be by at the end of my first paragraph.


27 posted on 08/13/2009 9:37:45 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Pyro7480
Katy was very upset after that interview.

Glen Beck said on his radio show this morning that she set him an email 4 AM this morning saying that she has been receiving threat and is worried about her business.

I suspect Glenn will talk about this on his show today.

28 posted on 08/13/2009 9:43:04 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

It will be single payer for me and for thee, unless we go offshore. I am investigating certain possibilities in that area for my wife. She is diabetic and afraid to retire from teaching because of this health care bill. If that is what comes down then we calculate that we need to get offshore to a place where her meds will still be available and refrigeration
and reliable electricity, too.


29 posted on 08/13/2009 1:51:18 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Pyro7480

“And just as they say that the octopus changes its color according to the earth which is under it, that is how the SOPHIST changes his mind according to the opinions of those around him.”

Basil the Great, For the youth, on reading pagan literature IX


30 posted on 08/15/2009 11:39:53 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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