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‘Bearing False Witness’: Obama Tells Religious Leaders Health Care Critics Are Guilty of Sin (audio)
Faith for Health ^ | August 19, 2009

Posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

"These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is to look out for each other."

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1 posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, HUH??????????????????????


2 posted on 08/19/2009 6:22:13 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Somebody tell this screwball that Americans have always looked out for each other by being Christians and loving their neighbor.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 6:23:26 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t have the first problem with having an ethical and moral obligation to look out for my fellow man. I just don’t care for it to be a legal obligation.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mullah Obama says we’re infidels.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 6:25:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation,”

Super Romney Care?


6 posted on 08/19/2009 6:26:43 PM PDT by Shermy ("disregard for the facts as understood by the mainstream media"..That's me!!)
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To: WVNan
Exactly Nan....and somebody tell this arrogant abuser of Christain message that if he would step away from our personal lives and stop taxing everything that can been seen we could get back to the natural and loving American practice of deep charity.

We are the MOST GENEROUS NATION ON EARTH, Mr. Uhbama....and we DON'T LIKE BILLIONS OF OUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS GOING TO AN OFF SHORE DRILLING FIRM IN BRAZIL (SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE ENERGY WHEN WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRILL HERE) PARTLY OWNED BY YOUR BIGGEST DONOR...the SOCIALIST GEORGE SOROS.

You are a sick puppy, uhbama. Very sick.

7 posted on 08/19/2009 6:27:07 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Free ThinkerNY

‘scuse me while I go to confession - - - NOT!


8 posted on 08/19/2009 6:27:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Look out for each other?

really? Is that the Golden Rule in the Church of Obama??


9 posted on 08/19/2009 6:27:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: Shermy

Klavan On The Culture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHgUE9AD4s&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsixmeatbuffet.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F08%2F04%2Fproof-dick-durbins-brain-is-from-some-alternate-alien-universe%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=107


10 posted on 08/19/2009 6:28:12 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: WVNan; All
WVNan:"Somebody tell this screwball that Americans have always looked out for each other by being Christians and loving their neighbor."

From the article:

"These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is to look out for each other."


11 posted on 08/19/2009 6:29:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does he mention “sin”? I did not hear it. I did hear “bearing false witness ... but not “sin”.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 6:29:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Maybe Barry should start with his own family...


13 posted on 08/19/2009 6:31:26 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
what "I" consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation

THIS from a man who has neither!!

14 posted on 08/19/2009 6:31:35 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I lost count of how many lies he told in only the first two minutes and gave up. There’s only so much bull$#!+ I can listen to before I’ve had enough.


15 posted on 08/19/2009 6:32:57 PM PDT by giotto
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To: Free ThinkerNY
what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is to look out for each other."

The Son of Perdition speaks.

Yea, Bambi like you look out for your brother in Kenya and your aunt in Boston or how about those Chicago folks stuck in the bad housing developed by your Chicago slumlord cronies. You looking out for them, ha, no.

Sure sounds like hypocrisy to me.

16 posted on 08/19/2009 6:33:05 PM PDT by A message (3 years 5 months 1 day until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: BunnySlippers

He should talk, with the 5-plan shell game going on apace on Capitol Hill.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 6:33:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: squidly

I don’t mind looking out for my fellow man - that’s what Christians do. But the central government is a whole different thing and should not be involved in this in any way. The all-powerful, all-encompasing government is not what Christianity is all about. That’s why Our Lord told us to render unto Caesar what was his...obviously, something pretty limited, such as the coin He was holding at that moment...and unto God what was God’s due (that is, the rest of our lives).


18 posted on 08/19/2009 6:35:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So what about that baby murder stuff there Hussein?

You know the part about how you support it and also demand the Gov’t to pay for these baby killings?

If I am a false witness then you sir are a stone cold murder.

And for the record, we are not the one bearing false witness.

BWT - as long as you brought up the topic of false witness, where’s that Birth Certificate at now?


19 posted on 08/19/2009 6:37:06 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Bambi is such a pompous, brainless, condescending a-****. If he weren’t so dangerous, he’d be funny.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 6:37:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

I want SOMEONE to challenge him on this!!!! The libs CONSTANTLY harp of ‘the separation of church and state’.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 6:38:48 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I understand I am here for others, but what are the others here for?


22 posted on 08/19/2009 6:39:01 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I understand I am here for others, but what are the others here for?


23 posted on 08/19/2009 6:39:34 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gosh, I’d love the opp to ask the ONE...one question!


24 posted on 08/19/2009 6:41:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Well, he’s his own church and his own state, so this is an entirely new experience for us...


25 posted on 08/19/2009 6:42:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What a fake fraud POS this Kenyan Communist Clown is!


26 posted on 08/19/2009 6:44:04 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama can kiss my a**. I no longer listen to lying manipulators tell me what my Christianity must be, esp. Socialists/Communists. We have to stop letting these people throw our values in our face.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 6:44:13 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mr. President, I seem to recall that the same part of the Bible that forbids false witness also forbids the wrongful use of God’s name.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 6:44:17 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: BunnySlippers

“Bearing false witness against your neighbor” is the sin the title refers to.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 6:45:12 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (Live Free Or Die)
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To: squidly

“I don’t have the first problem with having an ethical and moral obligation to look out for my fellow man.”

Exactly. Charity is an INDIVIDUAL’S moral responsibility-and one cannot fob it off on any government.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 6:46:05 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Imagine the POTUS hating the people of America? It’s just plain crazy.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 6:48:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty
Imagine the POTUS hating the people of America? It’s just plain crazy.

We don't have to imagine.

32 posted on 08/19/2009 6:48:41 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Free ThinkerNY

33 posted on 08/19/2009 6:49:00 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Bearing false witness”? Are you f’n kidding? False burf certificate, obscured personal records, troublesome Selective Service, questionable passport history, etc, etc. He is a walking “false witness” of his own life!!!


34 posted on 08/19/2009 6:49:39 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
How about looking out for this one, Dr. O.?

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35 posted on 08/19/2009 6:50:35 PM PDT by Faith
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is to look out for each other."

Yah'shua said
NAsbU Mark 12:17 And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things
that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they were
amazed at Him.
This individual does not have a clue what Yah'shua taught.

He only remembers what Rev Wright taught.

He wants to steal from people and give to
sinful things and claim it is G-d's will.

Perhaps Allah but not the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
36 posted on 08/19/2009 6:50:51 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Interesting to hear Obama telling religious leaders what talking points to take to their congregations. Will these churches lose their tax exempt status taking the democrats’ line to their pulpits?


37 posted on 08/19/2009 6:51:10 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Socialism is not about looking out for each other.

Socialism is about taking money from others to fund your own political choice of what is benevolent.

So called “democratic” socialism attempts to justify its “benevolent” tyranny on the basis that at least 51 out of 100 voters have agreed to take what they want from the other 49.

It is still theft by government. It is still not a system of giving but a system of taking. It is still the total politicization of charity and it destroys the moral fabric underpinning true charity as well as the moral fabric of self-responsible citizens.

It is not designed to foster responsible citizens. It is designed to create government dependent citizens.

Mainline so-called “Christian” churches have already bought the Marxist slogans that Obama will use to support his “moral” call. There are good counter arguments, but the RINOS don't have them. It's up to us.

38 posted on 08/19/2009 6:51:32 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We have Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security to cover the needs of the poor and elderly. If O wishes to distribute even more wealth while quoting “I am my brother’s keeper” I’d like to remind him of his own brother George living in a hut in Kenya and suggest he start there.


39 posted on 08/19/2009 6:52:03 PM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Sooo true.


40 posted on 08/19/2009 6:52:03 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What an Devil Worshipin', Satanic Inspired, Communist!  Invokes the story of Cain "Who Killed" Abel, his very own brother?
 
Ludicrous, unlearned and shows how he is given to taling "Stupidly"
 
And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
And he [God] said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
-- Genesis 4: 9-10 (KJV)
You make what you want of the post but, I have heard Barry O. say on more than one occassion as it is written "We are our brothers/sisters keeper".  Really?  Hope not.
 
False witness?  False Witness?!  So we are now liars?  Not misinformed?  The very things he calls us on the carpet for are in fact in the Eugenicare Bill.  That is pretty aggressive for someone who is suppose to be a uniter.  Name calling?  Yeah, that what's you do when the argument for your idea is weak or non-existent.
 
No take over of Health Insurance?  What is it called when you tell a person that no matter what they are going to have insurance.  Either the plan they are in now, which of course never stays the same or the plan the government, Forces you into.  The same one that will be run as well as the Beurue of Indian Affairs?  The Same one that provides Medicare?  The same one that provides the effieciency of a Post Office?
 
Seriously!  None of these programs will run a profit, which is required to keep up with inflation, provide an incentive for innovation and provide the wages necessary to supporting a medical system of competent care.
 
Barry O. disquises himself and cloaks himself in the sheepskin of the word of God and purposely obfoscates his own message by twisting the actual scripture to his own narrative.
 
He says we are on some Moral imperative.  What Moral imperative? 
 
The one where we tax 40% of the hard working Americans who actually pay taxes? 
 
The Moral imperative where 60% of America does not pay any taxes and in many cases gets a check back from, Who?  The other Americans who step up to the plate every payday, each quarter and at the end of the year and pay the Federal Tax the other 60% do not pay.  That's who!
 
 

41 posted on 08/19/2009 6:52:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Actually, I think the problem is the organization “Faith For Health” which the OP referenced [but did not provide a link for]. I have found it but their allusion is odd.


42 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: squidly

So not only does his administration call us cowards, angry mobs and extremists, but liars too....and he wonders why he’s meeting resistance, even if it is for the first time in his adult lifetime.


43 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:11 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...this coming from the man who with no actual knowledge of the events condemned the police for acting stupidly?

Well, he might be right... but he would be wise to really take to heart Proverbs, most especially 16:10-13:

The lips of a king speak as an oracle,
and his mouth should not betray justice.

Honest scales and balances are from the LORD;
all the weights in the bag are of his making.

Kings detest wrongdoing,
for a throne is established through righteousness.

Kings take pleasure in honest lips;
they value a man who speaks the truth.


44 posted on 08/19/2009 6:54:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I object to those who steal from me in order
that they can tithe to the church of Satan.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

45 posted on 08/19/2009 6:55:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Proof that Obama has no core values and no conscience!

He sits there and accuses others of the very sin he is committing several times a day.

This clown has over reached and will have his hat handed to him.


46 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:10 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Freddd

>So not only does his administration call us cowards, angry mobs and extremists, but liars too....and he wonders why he’s meeting resistance, even if it is for the first time in his adult lifetime.

LOL - Indeed so.
(That could be [more] proof that God DOES have a sense of humor, and does appreciate irony.)


47 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation,

He shouldn't even go there!

48 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:43 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Let me name the hospitals in my neck of the woods.

Baptist Hospital East.
Methodist University Hospital.
Veterans Memorial Hospital.
St. Jude Hospital.
Methodist Hospital East
Baptist Hospital South.
St. Francis.
Methodist Hospital East
St. Francis - Bartlett.
Metro Trauma Center.

My casual observation is if it wasn't for the Baptist, the Catholics and the Methodists, the area would have one hospital. Two if you are a veteran. Who's bearing false witness. Please spare me.

49 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A pathological liar just called all of us Liars - for that is what "bearing false witness" means.

He reminds of an annoying punk who says, "I know you are, but what am I?"

50 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by Florida native
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