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California Lawmakers pass bill to protect language freedom
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 20 August 2009 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 08/20/2009 3:12:02 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Lawmakers pass bill to protect language freedom

California would protect the freedom of a person to speak any language he or she chooses in a business establishment under a measure approved by the state Legislature today.

The bill, authored by Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, is the lawmaker's response to a controversial proposal by the LPGA last fall requiring golfers to speak "effective English." The organization scuttled the proposal after loud objections by Yee and others, and the Democrat says this legislation will ensure it does not happen again.

"No one in the state of California should be compelled to speak a particular language to get service," Yee said. "It just boggles the mind that in the year 2009, when we are constantly talking about global trade and bringing customers from other countries to California that we would not have a law that protects everyone's ability to speak."

The law, which now heads to the governor's desk, would make it a violation of the Unruh Civil Rights Act, the state's highest civil rights law, if a business "requires, limits or prohibits" the use of any language, except if doing so is a business necessity.

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Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, R-Irvine, called the measure "another full employment act for California's attorneys."

"This is the last sort of thing we need to do - to put additional burdens on businesses," DeVore said during debate over the measure today.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; california; chuckdevore; demagogicparty; democrats; economy; english; immigration; irvine; language; lelandyee; que; sanfrancisco; spanish; towerofbabble; unruh; unruhcivilrightsact

1 posted on 08/20/2009 3:12:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Oh my..

The unintended consequences.

I’m going to learn Klingon!


2 posted on 08/20/2009 3:13:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Can’t serve them if you can’t understand them. So how many languages do people in the Peoples Democratic Republick of Kalifonia have to learn to speak? (PDRK). Liberal insanity again.


3 posted on 08/20/2009 3:14:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
So your boss speaks only English and you speak only Spanish and he says to you "Read this pamplet and sign your name on the line and you get a 5% raise", and then you just stand there and say to "the man" "I don't gotta' speak no English to you" and walk off.

Yeah, this is gonna' improve California.

I've already run into situations there where the help didn't care to help because they just didn't understand English.

California is in error attempting to take care of the foreigners first and the American citzens last.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 3:17:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The bill, authored by Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, is the lawmaker's response to a controversial proposal by the LPGA last fall requiring golfers to speak "effective English."

Well, more people understand "Fore!" than "Avant!"

5 posted on 08/20/2009 3:18:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

So, based on the article, a person who is either 1) non-English speaking or 2) chooses not to speak English today can enter an establishment and demand/request service in say...an obscure dialect of a little spoken Central Asian language. Of course, the service employee doesnot understand and replies in English to that effect. The business has no obligation under this law to try to engage the person in their language. The two fail to communicate but that is apparently okay under this law, as reported. However, it is an offense if the service employee were to ask the person to explain themselves in English so that they can be served. I’m not sure if it is an offense to not serve them because you cannot understand what they want.

California, where the lunatics really are running the asylum.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 3:28:21 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: muawiyah
"I've already run into situations there where the help didn't care to help because they just didn't understand English."

...until it is in their best interests to understand just fine; gracias usted!

7 posted on 08/20/2009 3:37:05 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton

In California there really are people who don’t know English. I suppose they imagine you can have a decent life without knowing the language but then you get trapped in working in only 4 or 5 stores along Vista Way.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 3:39:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Would have been nice to put the bill number in the entire friggen article so when we call Arnold we can reference it.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 3:49:25 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: edcoil

Senate bill 242.

Call arnold and tell him to veto it.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 4:00:36 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Try that shiit in France, Monsieur Yee. They’ll look at you and say something I’m sure is disgusting, and walk away while flailing their arms in the air.

Here, let me fix that statement for you...

“No one in the state of California should be compelled to speak a particular language to run their businesses,”


11 posted on 08/20/2009 4:14:34 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I patronized a La Salsa taco shop for 18 months. The staff recognized me when I came in. Sometimes they even remembered my favorite orders. I arrived one afternoon to find the staff addressing me only in Spanish. I accommodated them by placing my order in Welsh. After giving me a puzzled look, I suggested we conduct business in English. We both understand that language. They got the message. They aren't the only people who speak something other than English.
12 posted on 08/20/2009 4:15:25 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: papasmurf
I was amused when patronizing a Chinese restaurant in Mons, Belgium. I ordered my Chinese food in French. The server proceeded to convey my order to the kitchen in Mandarin. Amusing for a native English speaker. Perhaps I should go directly for ordering in Mandarin next time.
13 posted on 08/20/2009 4:19:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Let me guess, it's a God given right.

Are there enough keys on a phone so we can chose a language or will we have to text instead?

Freedom my a$$, it's freedom lost by having to pay for and cope with multiple languages.

So much for "One nation under God"...

14 posted on 08/20/2009 5:01:50 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: muawiyah
California is in error attempting to take care of the foreigners first and the American citzens last.

How can you say such a thing when California is the ONLY state with a budget surplus in these times of financial peril? /s

15 posted on 08/20/2009 5:06:17 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I would get someone in there to "test" it right away.

Somebody working at a Taco Bell or a Home Depot, start peppering their comments with "Praise God", or "Praise the Lord", or "Thank you Jesus" while on the job and in earshot of people, praising heaven for various things.

Watch how soon it is before they are called in and warned or fired.

16 posted on 08/20/2009 5:13:08 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (President OBAMA should be an ample lesson to the GOP NEVER AGAIN to nominate people like John McCain)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Democrats pandering to every minority block available. No matter how small.


17 posted on 08/20/2009 5:16:04 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (www.firstsundaymusic.com)
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To: All; CounterCounterCulture; Landru; JoeSixPack; do the dhue; ExTexasRedhead; Coleus; mdcrandall; ...

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NEVER FORGET

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T’was a then California State Assemblyman LELAND YEE (D) of San Francisco who prevented the California State Legislature from officially recognizing the FREEDOM & HERITAGE Flag of the former Republic of South Vietnam.

A move that would have California officially endorse this Flag to represent the many Vietnamese Americans living in the State.

Now State Senator YEE (D) preferred that the State of California continue to recognize the Communist Flag that now flies over an enslaved Vietnam instead.

Requiring the Governor of California’s signature on an Executive Order to overide then Assemblymember LELAND YEE’s obstinance.

An Executive Order signed in Little Saigon, California. The very Heart of a most happy Vietnamese American Community.

T’was a great day to witness firsthand for this Vietnam War Veteran as well.

(Photos & Article from Official Governor of California Website)
http://gov.ca.gov/press-release/3162

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NEVER FORGET

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18 posted on 08/20/2009 6:33:07 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Hot damn!!! This should really help their state from going and/or being broke. (LMAO.... and I'm from Louisiana!
19 posted on 08/20/2009 6:44:32 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Good grief!

Californians!
Get On the Bandwagon!
Taxpayer Protection Act of 2010
Get The Petitions Pronto!
http://www.taxpayerrevolution.org/


20 posted on 08/20/2009 6:50:49 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: Myrddin

Heh. I would have loved to see that. It sounds like it was quality entertainment.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 7:55:37 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
Heh. I would have loved to see that. It sounds like it was quality entertainment.

It was a fun encounter. My dad sent me to Vons for salad ingredients around Christmas. As I approached the lettuce, a couple ladies switched from speaking English to German. I selected my lettuce, then offered a seasonally apropos, "Froliche Weinachten". I had recently passed my oral and written proficiency exams in German at UCSD. Welcome to America. We speak lots of languages here :-)

22 posted on 08/20/2009 10:38:42 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: edcoil

Good Luck, With Uncle Teddy still in the Hospital I Doubt Governor Shriver has the Authority to Veto this Bill. So where will this law leave me, considering I almost always comment and walk out of any establishment that allows their employees to speak a foreign language in front of customers. I consider it to be extremely RUDE.


23 posted on 08/21/2009 5:33:31 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Myrddin

I studied German for four years in high skrool and became almost fluent in hoechedeutsche - able to carry on conversations about writers like Mann, et al completely in German.

Funny (and true) story: Bought a couple of pivots from a dealer in Utah. He was too busy to erect & install them himself, so he sub’ed out the job to a family-owned company from West Texas. They were a Mennonite clan.

Anyway, so the pivots arrive by two 18-wheelers, we scatter the parts out on the ground and the fellas get to erecting them. They were GOOD. Knew this business like the backs of their hands. The first day, they’re talking in west Texas English. The second day, tho, they were getting tired and they started talking to each other (there were five of them) in what “sounded” like German. So I up and asked one of the senior guys “Hey, what’s that you’re speaking?”

And he says “Oh, sorry, we speak German in our congregation and in our town most of the time...” and so I reply in hoechdeutsche “nichts passiert, I can auch Deutsche...” and the expression on his face was one of complete surprise - and he hollers down the field “Hey! Guys! This guy can speak German!”

And so they all drop their tools and come running over - when I’d been working next to them for a day and a half. It was as tho I was suddenly a discovery and them some — a guy in the middle of Nevada who could speak German.

Long story short — their families came into Texas in the mid-1800’s from Germany with a wave of Mennonite immigration, ended up in Texas shortly after that Alamo thing, and when they came over, it was most all of the community/congregation. Their German was a dialect I’d never heard, and it was as tho it were frozen in amber - it was old-sounding German, with old idioms, the works. It sounded nothing at all like modern German, and they thought my modern “high German” was completely alien to their ears. They never listened to shortwave radio or German language TV, so they had no idea how German had changed. They just knew from the time they were young ‘un’s that “this is what we speak in church and at home, and we speak this other language out in public...” and that was that.

Yep, we speak a lot of languages here....


24 posted on 08/21/2009 8:22:07 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
That's pretty funny. My high school German teacher was born and raised in Karlsruhe. When I was doing work for Lufthansa in Frankfurt, the folks at the office spotted the Karlsruhe influence immediately. In the process of learning Welsh, I discovered that there are multiple dialects as well. The northern and southern dialects are most common. It turns out that my family spoke the mid-valleys dialect. I've acquired a small collection of music from mid-valley folk singers to help capture and refine my own usage.
25 posted on 08/21/2009 8:47:58 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: edcoil

http://govnews.ca.gov/govmail/webmail.php

Arnold just heard from me, not that he cares..


26 posted on 08/21/2009 5:52:10 PM PDT by janetgreen ( SICK OF TRAITOROUS POLITICIANS)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic was posted 8/20/2009. Found it in the Leland Yee keyword. Thanks CounterCounterCulture.
27 posted on 03/28/2014 6:34:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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