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Did Obama's grandmother say he was born in Kenya ?
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 20, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 08/20/2009 5:12:50 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Although no evidence has surfaced placing Barack Obama's mother in Kenya at the time of the president's birth, a taped telephone conversation in which his Kenyan step-grandmother purportedly claims he was born in the coastal city of Mombasa has become an Internet hit since its submission as evidence in a lawsuit challenging the president's eligibility.

Philip J. Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general, included a transcript of the tape and sworn affidavits in a filing with the U.S. Supreme Court after lower courts dismissed as frivolous his Aug. 21, 2008, complaint alleging Obama was born in Mombasa.

The Oct. 16, 2008, telephone "interview" was conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, who describes himself in his affidavit as an overseer of the Anabaptist Churches in North America and a "Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery."

McRae, who called from Detroit, says Sarah Obama was in a public setting with several hundred people listening to the telephone call on a speakerphone. The interpreter was Vitalis Akech Ogombe, the community chairman of Sarah Obama's village of Nyang'oma Kogelo in Western Kenya, 30 miles west of the Lake Victoria-city of Kisumu.

Barack Obama and his step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: autumnraine

In 1961 Sarah was living in Jericho which is a suburb of Nairobi. Sr considered her house his home. He had prepared to take the exam from the American Embassy that was to qualify him for scholarship to go to U of HI, with two missionary teachers.

Yes, His biological mother had left his father by then.

Who gave the interview that said they called SADO “Toot Annie”? That is where the “toot” came from that BO later called his grandmother.

Was it his aunt? Or a half sister?


21 posted on 08/20/2009 7:05:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Can anyone show me a picture of his grandparents and his kids together? Or even with his lovely wife? Anyone, anyone?


22 posted on 08/20/2009 7:09:12 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: reefdiver

His brother (maybe) is a drug addict and in the last article I read about him, he said he is happy with his life.
It would have been nice if he had kept his word to the people who run the high school in his father’s(maybe) village which is named after him if he had personnally given or raised some money to help them out like he said he would.


23 posted on 08/20/2009 7:35:15 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: autumnraine

As I remember, she initially said that Obama Jr. was born in Kenya but immediately change her tune in the next breath saying Obama was born in Hawaii. Whether this was because Obama’s paternal grandmother remembering her instruction given to her to say that, or another person in the room, the interpreter, reminding her to, or like you say she was referring to Sr.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 7:41:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: cameraeye

“Can anyone show me a picture of his grandparents and his kids together? Or even with his lovely wife? Anyone, anyone?”

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Yes. http://www.barack-obama-photos.com/obama_family_hawaii.jpg

There’s others.


25 posted on 08/20/2009 9:43:24 PM PDT by Redwood Bob (Peter Schiff for U.S. Senate 2010!)
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To: real_patriotic_american
Is Obama's grandmother's signature on Obama's 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate---the one with spaces for a doctor signature and a hospital name---as a WITNESS to Obama's birth?

That is, in 1961, did Grandma Dunham LIE on Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate by signing her name in the WITNESS space, when, in reality, she NEVER "witnessed" Obama's non-hospital birth?

1. Could the main reason that Obama is spending $500,000 to $1,000,000, and counting, to have high-priced lawyers fight to keep Obama's long form birth certificate and Obama's Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records out of the courts and out of the dirty hands of birthers be this: Grandma Dunham's signature is in the space for "witness"?

2. 1961 Hawaii peculiar birth certificate rules: Remember, way back in 1961, Hawaii allowed parents to merely mail in a child's birth certificate if the child was NOT born in a hospital. The doctor and midwife spaces could be left empty if a doctor or midwife was not present at the birth.

3. However, as I understand it, someone had to sign as a WITNESS to the home birth.

4. My theory is this: Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital, and so one reason he is fighting so hard to keep his long form birth certificate from being displayed in court for everyone to see is that there is no hospital name on his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.

5. But if Obama was NOT born in a hospital and NOT under the care of a doctor or midwife, then who was the WITNESS who signed the birth certificate stating that he/she was a witness to Obama's birth before the birth certificate was mailed to the Hawaii vital statistics department?

6. There had to be a WITNESS signature. How about Grandma Dunham being that WITNESS?

7. Did Grandma Dunham sign it?

8. How about this theory: The main reason that Obama does not want us to see his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate is that Grandma Dunham signed it, that is, she LIED that she was a WITNESS to Obama's birth, when, in reality, Grandma Dunham was not at Obama's birth at all.

9. So, I say this: Obama must stand up and be a man by allowing Hawaii to release his 1961 birth certificate so that we can find out that a doctor signed or did not sign the birth certificate as the WITNESS to Obama's birth.

10. However, if we find out that a doctor did not sign Obama's birth certificate, then, sadly, we may find out that it was Grandma Dunham who LIED and signed the birth certificate as a WITNESS to Obama's birth.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 10:23:20 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: tophat9000
"Obama’s grandmother would be Barack SENIOR mother..."

This women who is always referred to as Obama's grandmother is no blood relation to him. She is Obama's grandfather's third wife,Sarah Onyango Obama. The mother of Barack Obama Senior was his second wife, Habiba Akumu Obama. She ultimately left her husband and (3) children. Third wife Sarah was born in 1922 and Barack Sr. in 1936. That would mean that she was fourteen at the time of that birth.

Akumu Obama and Barack Obama Sr.

27 posted on 08/21/2009 3:38:47 AM PDT by Mila
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To: cameraeye
"Can anyone show me a picture of his grandparents and his kids together? Or even with his lovely wife? Anyone, anyone?"


28 posted on 08/21/2009 3:44:07 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Mila

awk! memo to self: always dress as tho 300 million people are going to be checking the picture out in 5 years....


29 posted on 08/21/2009 5:15:24 AM PDT by bitt (Hey Nanzi Pelosi, ...we are not a MOB, we are the Brooks BrotherHood.)
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To: john mirse; cameraeye

Your comments strengthen my opinion that Obama was born in Kenya and that his grandparents could have mailed in the birth certificate to Hawaii. BTW, I’ve read that Obama has spent over $1.4 million in legal fees.

“john mirse” wrote-

“Is Obama’s grandmother’s signature on Obama’s 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate-—the one with spaces for a doctor signature and a hospital name-—as a WITNESS to Obama’s birth?
That is, in 1961, did Grandma Dunham LIE on Obama’s Hawaii long form birth certificate by signing her name in the WITNESS space, when, in reality, she NEVER “witnessed” Obama’s non-hospital birth?

1. Could the main reason that Obama is spending $500,000 to $1,000,000, and counting, to have high-priced lawyers fight to keep Obama’s long form birth certificate and Obama’s Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records out of the courts and out of the dirty hands of birthers be this: Grandma Dunham’s signature is in the space for “witness”?

2. 1961 Hawaii peculiar birth certificate rules: Remember, way back in 1961, Hawaii allowed parents to merely mail in a child’s birth certificate if the child was NOT born in a hospital. The doctor and midwife spaces could be left empty if a doctor or midwife was not present at the birth.

3. However, as I understand it, someone had to sign as a WITNESS to the home birth.

4. My theory is this: Obama was NOT born in a Hawaii hospital, and so one reason he is fighting so hard to keep his long form birth certificate from being displayed in court for everyone to see is that there is no hospital name on his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate.

5. But if Obama was NOT born in a hospital and NOT under the care of a doctor or midwife, then who was the WITNESS who signed the birth certificate stating that he/she was a witness to Obama’s birth before the birth certificate was mailed to the Hawaii vital statistics department?

6. There had to be a WITNESS signature. How about Grandma Dunham being that WITNESS?

7. Did Grandma Dunham sign it?

8. How about this theory: The main reason that Obama does not want us to see his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate is that Grandma Dunham signed it, that is, she LIED that she was a WITNESS to Obama’s birth, when, in reality, Grandma Dunham was not at Obama’s birth at all.

9. So, I say this: Obama must stand up and be a man by allowing Hawaii to release his 1961 birth certificate so that we can find out that a doctor signed or did not sign the birth certificate as the WITNESS to Obama’s birth.

10. However, if we find out that a doctor did not sign Obama’s birth certificate, then, sadly, we may find out that it was Grandma Dunham who LIED and signed the birth certificate as a WITNESS to Obama’s birth.”


30 posted on 08/21/2009 5:16:36 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Mila

This is the first time I have ever seen this photograph. Thank you for sharing with me. I stand corrected.


31 posted on 08/21/2009 8:15:27 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: tophat9000

No, she was the FIRST WIFE of Obama grandfather, witnessing the birth of second wife’s baby, Barack Senior.

She is his step-grandmother.


32 posted on 08/21/2009 9:38:35 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: tophat9000
Obama’s grandmother would be Barack SENIOR mother... Isn't it a redundant statement for a mother to to say she watched herself giving birth to her own son?

Read slowly, she, Sarah, is not BHO Senior's mother, but rather another wife of BHO Senior's father. They were Muslims, or at least BHO's Kenyan grandfather was, and could have more than one wife at a time.

So it's possible she would be present at the birth of BHO Sr, but not "giving birth" to him.

But that is not what the WND translations of the interview say. They say she insists that she was present, in Momabasa, when BHO Jr. was born.

33 posted on 08/21/2009 11:40:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: omega4179
He IS his Brother’s keeper he said so this week.

No, he said WE are our brother's keeper. It's our money, not so much his, that he wants to spend like a drunken sailor. Well not quite, the way he is spending and planning to spend would make a drunken sailor take the pledge.

34 posted on 08/21/2009 11:42:56 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Red Steel
As I remember, she initially said that Obama Jr. was born in Kenya but immediately change her tune in the next breath saying Obama was born in Hawaii

Not according the article. Other people present said that BHO Jr was born in Hawaii, or the United States, but not Grannie Sarah. She stuck to her guns. I think I actually kind of like her. Of course she's no blood relation to BHO, which is a big point in her favor.

35 posted on 08/21/2009 11:46:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: tophat9000

She wasn’t Barack Senior’s mother, but another of his father’s wives.
But why ascribe such a confusion to her?


36 posted on 08/25/2009 12:17:19 AM PDT by Vincent Jappi
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